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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.

That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.

That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.

It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.

That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.

The rage will eat you up if left untreated. Get some help.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.

That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.

It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.

Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?

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What will happen to some of the things that were approved for construction but aren’t completed yet?

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.

That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.

It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.

Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?

120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

You are legally blocked from doing many, many, things with your own property, in the interest of the public good. This is just one of those.

*shrug*

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

People are finally beginning to understand that developers are behind all these proposals to ruin communities. YIMBY = developers.

Developers are the people who build houses. That’s not really a secret.

Fulminating over (checks notes) duplexes in your neighborhood is mentally deranged.

Not if those duplexes strain local resources and sewage. You think you have a storm water runoff issue now, just wait until you replace those yards with hardscape.

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Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.

You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.

There is a capacity limit due to infrastructure, dimwit. You can’t keep packing people into the same area if sewage systems, water infrastructure, schools, etc. can’t handle it. Look at Mexico City for the nightmare that can happen. Spread density out where more infrastructure can be built for a fraction of the cost. You don’t have a god given inherent right to live where you think you should. I deserve $1000/mo rent in Jackson Hole too! Build me my home, now! lol.

wtf does Mexico City have to do with it?? (except to be the classic nonsequitur that NIMBYs love to layer on.)

don’t worry, zoning reform will prevail and we’ll all have a good laugh when only the truly mentally deranged among you are left to chain yourself to the sh*tshack teardown.

Laughing all the way to the sinkholes.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

None of this is true for Arlington. There were arguments about the high school, but not because people didn’t want it in their backyard but because they wanted a school that was equivalent to the existing high schools like W-L, Yorktown and Wakefield and the County, per usual, wouldn’t do that. They forced all these other 1/2 a$$ options on people. I’d love to hear about the preschool and solar power that Arlington NIMBYs scrapped. I’ve lived here over twenty years.

lol pathetic defense of blocking the HS. I bet you $10000 the same people who blocked the HS are now whining about not having enough school capacity for growth.

Pathetic defense? You must be a delusional YIMBY renter without kids. Because you would care if your kid was zoned for a high school with a small turf field on the roof and no swimming pool or theater while kids at the other high schools have all of those things. I have no dog in this fight. I am a parent of high school student but I wouldn’t send them to APS. The County and their schools suck.

Catch up. The NIMBYs blocked the a new APS HS (and now whine that the schools are too crowded for more housing.)

It’s almost like you are purposely obtuse. I just explained why it was blocked. It’s YIMBY’s like you who can’t make a coherent argument that got us into this mess.

They are MAGAs whether they realelize it or not.

So true when you consider that the @YIMBY development lobby hires MAGA operatives who also work for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.

You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.

There is a capacity limit due to infrastructure, dimwit. You can’t keep packing people into the same area if sewage systems, water infrastructure, schools, etc. can’t handle it. Look at Mexico City for the nightmare that can happen. Spread density out where more infrastructure can be built for a fraction of the cost. You don’t have a god given inherent right to live where you think you should. I deserve $1000/mo rent in Jackson Hole too! Build me my home, now! lol.

wtf does Mexico City have to do with it?? (except to be the classic nonsequitur that NIMBYs love to layer on.)

don’t worry, zoning reform will prevail and we’ll all have a good laugh when only the truly mentally deranged among you are left to chain yourself to the sh*tshack teardown.

Because if you knew anything about Mexico City you'd know they entire area is sinking and it is on the path to becoming uninhabitable. The city is sinking because of too much water demand. The city's sewer systems also get constantly backed up and overflow. That's what happens when you jam pack too many people into an area and infrastructure can't handle it. You give them more water, but you didn't soe enough time to study whether massive water demand increases can cause huge issues with subsidence they can ruin vast swaths of terrain and anything built in top of it.

Are you comparing a city of 9+ million built on a lake with Arlington county?

yes. yes he is 🤡

one thing I’ve learned over several years of being involved in various public improvement/land use projects is that NIMBYs make the most outlandish arguments stacked on top of each other - if not outright lies. This is because generally their only true underlying belief and goal is that nothing should ever change (unless they specifically want it to). so they don’t generally have many bona fide arguments but just a series of increasingly outlandish, disingenuous, and sometimes paranoid claims.

But then the YIYBYs argue that D.C. and Arlington should be as dense as Tokyo.

I’ve never heard anyone say that. The citation to Tokyo is about their much faster/cheaper modular construction, which means rents are much lower.

They literally say stuff like that. People at the YIMBYs for Harris event the other week were saying America should look like Singapore.

But they won’t accept an approach to crime like Singapore.

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Anonymous wrote:The same people objecting to MM are the people complaining that there aren't enough workers to support their quality of life.

Who is going to commute two hours or more to make your Panera sandwich?

yep. and teachers and nurses and long waits in the ER …

None of the MM proposal would actually address affordable housing. It’s a handout to developers.

Opponents do not support MMH because they believe it would bring in people who are less wealthy who would drive down property values. They would oppose the initiative even if the county limited sales of MM units to people with incomes below a certain threshold.

It’s all about property value and keeping cars off their street. They don’t actually care about trees or infrastructure capacity.

Simply put, you are a liar.

I bought my SFH in Del Ray in 1999 because I wanted to live in a leafy, older, walkable community with small houses and tidy yards. It was what I could afford, too. Del Ray floods ALL THE TIME now. This did not happen 20 years ago. It didn't. The schools also weren't bursting at the seams either. Now, Alexandria city council want to destroy that. They want my block of 80 people to support 440 people. That will trash the already over stressed sewer system and push the schools past the brink. It will stress everythig from our under sized police force to our trash collection, everything. You simply cant add people onto a boat and pretend there are no consequences.

All your lot has is xenophobic adhominems. That's it.

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Anonymous wrote:They basically want to turn the whole DMV into Mexico City. No, I do not mean that in a disparaging ethic way, but they’ll try to jam pack way too many people in a certain area just like Mexico City. And guess what’s happening to MC? The entire city is sinking because infrastructure can’t handle water and sewage demand. The city is going to collapse because there will be no more water.

Maybe, just maybe, not everyone has the god given right to live wherever they want, when they want. You build infrastructure up to a certain level with a limit. You can only sustain a population up to that limit. If you can’t afford to live there due to limit on capacity, then you simply find more affordable, less dense areas to live. The U.S. is massive. I don’t understand why we insist on making certain areas extremely dense when there is huge amounts of room and space elsewhere available that’s already far more affordable. You can live in PA, WV, or OH for much more affordable housing.

You can live in PA or OH if you want a massive SFH with a giant yard. You don’t get to both live close to an urban center and demand other people cannot live there.

There is a capacity limit due to infrastructure, dimwit. You can’t keep packing people into the same area if sewage systems, water infrastructure, schools, etc. can’t handle it. Look at Mexico City for the nightmare that can happen. Spread density out where more infrastructure can be built for a fraction of the cost. You don’t have a god given inherent right to live where you think you should. I deserve $1000/mo rent in Jackson Hole too! Build me my home, now! lol.

wtf does Mexico City have to do with it?? (except to be the classic nonsequitur that NIMBYs love to layer on.)

don’t worry, zoning reform will prevail and we’ll all have a good laugh when only the truly mentally deranged among you are left to chain yourself to the sh*tshack teardown.

Laughing all the way to the sinkholes.

Sigh. Mexico City is built on a lakebed. MoCo is not.

These kinds of spurious arguments detract from dialog surrounding more, um, grounded concerns about the MoCo densification push, such as the lack of guardrails related to infrastructure/schools, the lack of public agency consequent of the non-transparent engagement approach prior to AHS presentation to the County Council, the failure to investigate/evaluate/present alternatives with anything close to the robustness of the AHS, and the moral argument surrounding the relative rights/needs of current residents and prospective residents.

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

The best thing for the common hood would be for people to understand that if you want something nice in this country you have to sacrifice and work your tail off. In an era of student loan forgiveness, free housing for illegal immigrants, and countless other government giveaways it’s gotten totally out of control.

How does someone sacrifice and “work their tail off” for sidewalks and wind farms? That’s total disingenuous NIMBY bullsh*t. You don’t believe people need to work for themselves - if you did, you’d never try to legally block what they do with *their own property.* What you want is to control what happens to property and public spaces that you *never worked for*. So stfu about “hard work.”

There is a specific, yet to be named type of psychological rage that exists amongst nonprofit workers and humanities degree holders when they reach adulthood and realize they cannot have the same types of things that their peers who went into business, law, STEM, etc. It is sad to
to watch.

That’s a weird projection, considering that you’re mad you couldn’t buy up all your neighbors property.

It’s being bought up by developers who majored in business.

Great!! I live in a 120 year old house that was built by “developers.” You probably also live in a house built by a “developer.” It’s an odd belief that it’s somehow wrong for businesses to build houses …. do you have some kind of idealized fantasy that everyone should be a homesteader and buy their own land and build their own house on it?

120 years ago your house was built by a farmer or businessman who earned it. The original owner would laugh at you.

No it wasn’t. What a weird anachronistic view. It was built by a developer that built blocks of rowhouses.

So buying a house from a developer is wrong now because you didn’t “earn it”? 🤡

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Anonymous wrote:Nimbys are the worst. Seriously. You’re ruining this country.

How is this ruining the country? Because people need to live in areas that comport with their affordability instead of the government trying to get everyone a prize at the expense of current homeowners? No one has a right to live in Arlington. It’s a very nice and expensive place.

I would love a house in Newport Beach. I can’t afford a $8M house so I don’t live there.

because EVERYTHING that is a common good gets opposed by NIMBYs. Preschools, high schools, sidewalks, solar powed, waste treatment plants …

None of this is true for Arlington. There were arguments about the high school, but not because people didn’t want it in their backyard but because they wanted a school that was equivalent to the existing high schools like W-L, Yorktown and Wakefield and the County, per usual, wouldn’t do that. They forced all these other 1/2 a$$ options on people. I’d love to hear about the preschool and solar power that Arlington NIMBYs scrapped. I’ve lived here over twenty years.

lol pathetic defense of blocking the HS. I bet you $10000 the same people who blocked the HS are now whining about not having enough school capacity for growth.

Pathetic defense? You must be a delusional YIMBY renter without kids. Because you would care if your kid was zoned for a high school with a small turf field on the roof and no swimming pool or theater while kids at the other high schools have all of those things. I have no dog in this fight. I am a parent of high school student but I wouldn’t send them to APS. The County and their schools suck.

Catch up. The NIMBYs blocked the a new APS HS (and now whine that the schools are too crowded for more housing.)

It’s almost like you are purposely obtuse. I just explained why it was blocked. It’s YIMBY’s like you who can’t make a coherent argument that got us into this mess.

They are MAGAs whether they realelize it or not.

So true when you consider that the @YIMBY development lobby hires MAGA operatives who also work for Trump.

Please, tell us ALL about your progressive bona fides.