Anyone in a wealthy area that isn’t competitive with colleges?

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Anonymous wrote:I think folks are just forgetting how much geography plays a part of all college decisions.

86% of all students at residential colleges attend a school within 500 miles of where they are from.

If Harvard was located in Minnesota, you would have tons more midwesterners apply. How many threads on DCUM basically have parents saying their kid needs to be a 4 hour drive away.

32% of WashU is from the Midwest and only 5% is from New England. If WashU was moved to Vermont, the numbers would be reversed.

Perhaps it feels less stressful if you live in Iowa and you are told you can go to any college within 500 miles…you just eliminated every East Coast and West Coast hyper competitive school.

This speaks more truth than most posts in this thread. Yup, I literally read the whole thread.

People discount the regional pull of schools, especially the big brand names, like HPY, but ALL schools have their strongest impact regionally.

East Coasters don’t seem to realize that UChicago, Northwestern, Carlton, and the Big Ten are just as valuable in the Midwest as HPY. Vanderbilt, Duke, UVA, Wake Forest, Davidson, UNC, W&L, and W&M are strong in the South. Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, USC, Pomona, and the Claremont schools are well-recognized in the West.

Yes, I know that DCUM knows these schools and their geography, but too few seem to recognize that if you don’t live in the NE or Mid-Atlantic, NE schools are not considered the end goal. It’s not that a degree from HPY can’t serve one well anywhere, but it’s that a degree from Vanderbilt will do just as well where its influence is strong.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Tons of rich Californians at SMU and TCU.

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Anonymous wrote:I would imagine LA is like this.

It is. It’s not nearly as brand name conscious as DMV or NY ‘burbs. USC is the big enchilada here.

wtf are you talking about? Harvard Westlake and other LA prep schools send tons of kids to East Coast schools.

Also, kids don’t want to stay in their hometown for college…so USC isn’t the big enchilada for LA kids.

LA kids rather want to go to USC than UCLA.
That's for sure.

Grew up in L.A. in the 80s and 90s. It was the case then (and still the case now) that USC is for kids who couldn't get into UCLA. UCLA is way cheaper, has a nicer and safer campus, and is more diverse. The only reason to go to the University of Spoiled Children is for football and a decent film school and Marshall School of Business. The smart kids will go away to college to Cal or UCSD.

Huh I don’t see it that way at all. I thought USC was for smart kids who could afford it. UCLA was for smart kids who needed state tuition. My OOS kid didn’t bother applying to UCLA bc it’s a crowded poorly run state school in comparison to USC.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Tons of rich Californians at SMU and TCU.

Stop…just stop. There aren’t. Why anyone is persisting with this is beyond bizarre.

Maybe produce one iota of evidence…of which there is none.

TCU is the most ridiculous. Look at their CDS and you will see they have a big drop in applications and a tiny percentage OOS. But sure…that small percentage is all rich Californians.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Well, you're wrong. Those are very much the mediocre rich kid schools today. SMU and TCU are where it's at.

These kids are not getting into Ivy, Duke, Stanford, Rice, MIT, Chicago, Vanderbilt or any UC.

They are genuine dumbasses.

Trust me.

SMU and TCU are where it's at for the elite dumbasses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

ITs not generational wealth. The parents are wealthy only as immigrants. Mostly Armenians.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Well, you're wrong. Those are very much the mediocre rich kid schools today. SMU and TCU are where it's at.

These kids are not getting into Ivy, Duke, Stanford, Rice, MIT, Chicago, Vanderbilt or any UC.

They are genuine dumbasses.

Trust me.

SMU and TCU are where it's at for the elite dumbasses.

First…there are only 3600 people that live in Pebble Beach…how many 18 year olds per year in total are there? 50…maybe? Probably less.

Rich average kids from CA don’t go to TCU or SMU…they go to Chapman or LMU or USD or schools where rich kids from CA go.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Well, you're wrong. Those are very much the mediocre rich kid schools today. SMU and TCU are where it's at.

These kids are not getting into Ivy, Duke, Stanford, Rice, MIT, Chicago, Vanderbilt or any UC.

They are genuine dumbasses.

Trust me.

SMU and TCU are where it's at for the elite dumbasses.

First…there are only 3600 people that live in Pebble Beach…how many 18 year olds per year in total are there? 50…maybe? Probably less.

Rich average kids from CA don’t go to TCU or SMU…they go to Chapman or LMU or USD or schools where rich kids from CA go.

Eh, TCU and SMU are definitely a rich kid thing in CA now.

Pebble Beach is more than a technicality. There's Carmel, Carmel Valley, Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove, Monterey.

The talent is much better elsewhere. It's lazy wealth on the peninsula.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Well, you're wrong. Those are very much the mediocre rich kid schools today. SMU and TCU are where it's at.

These kids are not getting into Ivy, Duke, Stanford, Rice, MIT, Chicago, Vanderbilt or any UC.

They are genuine dumbasses.

Trust me.

SMU and TCU are where it's at for the elite dumbasses.

First…there are only 3600 people that live in Pebble Beach…how many 18 year olds per year in total are there? 50…maybe? Probably less.

Rich average kids from CA don’t go to TCU or SMU…they go to Chapman or LMU or USD or schools where rich kids from CA go.

Eh, TCU and SMU are definitely a rich kid thing in CA now.

Pebble Beach is more than a technicality. There's Carmel, Carmel Valley, Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove, Monterey.

The talent is much better elsewhere. It's lazy wealth on the peninsula.

Show me anything to back this up.

Again, TCU isn’t popular really anywhere outside of Texas.

Your just repeating baseless nonsense doesn’t make it true.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Well, you're wrong. Those are very much the mediocre rich kid schools today. SMU and TCU are where it's at.

These kids are not getting into Ivy, Duke, Stanford, Rice, MIT, Chicago, Vanderbilt or any UC.

They are genuine dumbasses.

Trust me.

SMU and TCU are where it's at for the elite dumbasses.

First…there are only 3600 people that live in Pebble Beach…how many 18 year olds per year in total are there? 50…maybe? Probably less.

Rich average kids from CA don’t go to TCU or SMU…they go to Chapman or LMU or USD or schools where rich kids from CA go.

Eh, TCU and SMU are definitely a rich kid thing in CA now.

Pebble Beach is more than a technicality. There's Carmel, Carmel Valley, Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove, Monterey.

The talent is much better elsewhere. It's lazy wealth on the peninsula.

Show me anything to back this up.

Again, TCU isn’t popular really anywhere outside of Texas.

Your just repeating baseless nonsense doesn’t make it true.

I live in the Pacific NW. TCU is very popular in our fancy neighborhood among the white, sporty-but-not-doing-a-college-sport, ok grades and rich-kid set. Our swim club and beach club parking lots both have new iterations of multiple cars every summer with horned frog and TCU stickers. I notice because I lived outside Fort Worth for years and it’s weird to see so many TCU kids in such a different part of the country.

I’ve never heard of a kid from up here going to SMU, though.

[Anonymous]

https://tcu360.com/2023/01/07/tcus-california-foothold-a-look-at-the-largest-out-of-state-student-population/

there’s no denying TCU has a California connection.

For over a decade the Golden State has been second only to Texas when it comes to campus representation.

TCU has more Californians than any college — public or private — in Texas.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Tons of rich Californians at SMU and TCU.

Stop…just stop. There aren’t. Why anyone is persisting with this is beyond bizarre.

Maybe produce one iota of evidence…of which there is none.

TCU is the most ridiculous. Look at their CDS and you will see they have a big drop in applications and a tiny percentage OOS. But sure…that small percentage is all rich Californians.

More than 50% of TCU students are from out-of-state.

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Anonymous wrote:We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.

People with generational wealth don't really care that much about college pedigrees. Most often, it's because they themselves are the beneficiaries of generational wealth. They didn't have to do anything, so why should their kids and grandkids have to do hard things?

I used to live in Pebble Beach. The genuine wealth - it's family money. It's not earned. No one worked hard for it. And the wealth continues to grow because they have professionals taking care of it. And in that world, SMU and TCU are elite.

Nobody in Pebble Beach even gives one second of thought to SMU or TCU. You need better examples…because those are terrible.

There are plenty with multiple generations attending Stanford.

yup.


Oh good lord. None of those Pebble Beach kids are getting into Stanford.

And we are a multigenerational Stanford family .

You don't want to go there regardless in 2024.

Regardless…nobody from Pebble Beach is sending their kids to TCU or SMU. Those are idiotic examples.

Tons of rich Californians at SMU and TCU.

Yes -- this.