NYC to spend 9 Billion in 2024/2025 to house Migrants!

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Anonymous wrote:Biden single-handedly destroyed immigration. We are no longer getting the best immigrants. We are getting the bottom of the barrel freebie wanting migrants that don’t want to work. What Trump said about Mexico not sending their best became true. Mexico ignores the cartel so long as they take care of business and send these migrants away from Mexico into the U.S. -many as drug mules for the cartel to bring drugs into the US. The jig is about to be up once Trump comes back in office. The border will be handled.

This is so xenophobic. I can’t believe Jeff has not deleted this disgusting thread.

These are human beings we are talking about.

I live in NYC. Believe me, these people are adding nothing. They have no capacity to earn a living to survive in a very expensive city. They have no business being here. FWIW I'm a registered Dem who will be voting for Harris. Trump is all bark and no bite.

Well, you can’t fix stupid.

NP. What is stupid about this? Do you live in NYC? I live in Manhattan. I've started seeing migrant families every day, sitting and begging in absolutely pathetic circumstances because they cannot feed or take care of themselves. NYC is one of the most expensive cities in the world. These migrants don't speak English, and generally resort to earning money to support themselves by (i) panhandling, (ii) selling candy on or in the subway system with their children, or (iii) scavenging cans from public trash cans. There's been an exponential increase on the streets of single men, women, and families sitting on the streets begging.

It really hurts me to see hungry kids, so when I can, I'll buy the families a meal. There's one woman who sits half a block away from my Midtown Whole Foods with her two small children (2 and 4, maybe?) all day, in the summer heat, with a sign asking for food. The other day I stopped into the WF and bought them 3 slices of pizza, 2 waters, and a box of strawberries and it cost $21. Obviously there are cheaper places to get a meal than Whole Foods, but that's pretty indicative of prices in this city. It's a HCOL city. Putting aside the policy question of whether we should be allowing migrants in the way we are, it's pretty logical and obvious that these migrants (generally poor foreigners with zero formal education or English language skills, often with small children to support) shouldn't be encouraged to come to NYC. It's not a place that you can support yourself easily as a newcomer with nothing, and that means NYC taxpayers are on the hook for you. I'm all for paying taxes, but I agree that the way NYC has to spend to keep up with this is too much.

I'm the quoted PP. I meant to include links to these two articles. If you think this is OK or should be encouraged in any way, you're beyond help.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/nyregion/migrant-children-selling-candy-subway-laws.html
https://www.curbed.com/article/migrant-children-selling-candy-new-york-subways.html

[Anonymous]

Whatever. Who’s going to clean your toilets and and staff your daycares if we don’t bring in more immigrants? Who is going to take jobs at places like McDonald’s and grocery stores? We need these people.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden single-handedly destroyed immigration. We are no longer getting the best immigrants. We are getting the bottom of the barrel freebie wanting migrants that don’t want to work. What Trump said about Mexico not sending their best became true. Mexico ignores the cartel so long as they take care of business and send these migrants away from Mexico into the U.S. -many as drug mules for the cartel to bring drugs into the US. The jig is about to be up once Trump comes back in office. The border will be handled.

This is so xenophobic. I can’t believe Jeff has not deleted this disgusting thread.

These are human beings we are talking about.

I live in NYC. Believe me, these people are adding nothing. They have no capacity to earn a living to survive in a very expensive city. They have no business being here. FWIW I'm a registered Dem who will be voting for Harris. Trump is all bark and no bite.

Yay! Limousine liberal! How great! Funny how so many Guatemalans here in DC and around work all the time, in every single job. They seem to have a vast capacity. I just saw them working on a neighbor's house, and I took their number so they could help me fix my house. Oh, and that Pakistani restaurant in Arlington? Hispanics, and my El Salvador friend told me they are from Guatemala, BCS. You know she took the time to talk to the..... HELP! They are building every new construction in MoCo. They work at stores, and oh, no, for the Federal Government too! They are harder working than you, and willing to work. In the meantime, you are probably unemployed, and advocating for WFH.

Over 200,000 people have come to New York City over the past two years. We do not have the capacity to absorb all these people. No one can survive in NYC collecting cans out of the trash. As someone who was just in DC in the springtime, you do not have the same kind of migrant issues that we do. There’s just no comparison. In addition, I had my first job at seven years old and I’ve worked really hard all my life. I am fully employed and a valued employee at my job. Over the past couple of years, my employer has gradually reduced our WFH to twice a month so I’m in the office nearly every day of the month. I don’t mind going into the office at all. When my kids were younger, the foreign-born nannies of their peers would approach my mother and tell her how friendly I am, but thanks for playing, a-hole…

Did anyone tell you that you should just shut up?

Is that the best you got?!?! LOL

Yes, some people don't need anything more than to realize they are that stupid and racist, they need to shut up. Explaining to such people why they need to shut up is pointless.

I’m neither stupid, nor racist. Scholarship student at top private high school and college. 2 advanced degrees from Ivy AND DH is poc. Ad hominem attacks are not arguments btw. Maybe you’re the one who should shut up, since you don’t know what you are talking about and don’t have anything to contribute but weird, easily disproven personal attacks.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever. Who’s going to clean your toilets and and staff your daycares if we don’t bring in more immigrants? Who is going to take jobs at places like McDonald’s and grocery stores? We need these people.

THEY DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH. Some don’t even speak Spanish. They speak a native dialect. Those who speak Spanish sometimes can’t even read or write in their own language. Their limited language skills don’t qualify them for much beyond manual labor.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden single-handedly destroyed immigration. We are no longer getting the best immigrants. We are getting the bottom of the barrel freebie wanting migrants that don’t want to work. What Trump said about Mexico not sending their best became true. Mexico ignores the cartel so long as they take care of business and send these migrants away from Mexico into the U.S. -many as drug mules for the cartel to bring drugs into the US. The jig is about to be up once Trump comes back in office. The border will be handled.

This is so xenophobic. I can’t believe Jeff has not deleted this disgusting thread.

These are human beings we are talking about.

I live in NYC. Believe me, these people are adding nothing. They have no capacity to earn a living to survive in a very expensive city. They have no business being here. FWIW I'm a registered Dem who will be voting for Harris. Trump is all bark and no bite.

Yay! Limousine liberal! How great! Funny how so many Guatemalans here in DC and around work all the time, in every single job. They seem to have a vast capacity. I just saw them working on a neighbor's house, and I took their number so they could help me fix my house. Oh, and that Pakistani restaurant in Arlington? Hispanics, and my El Salvador friend told me they are from Guatemala, BCS. You know she took the time to talk to the..... HELP! They are building every new construction in MoCo. They work at stores, and oh, no, for the Federal Government too! They are harder working than you, and willing to work. In the meantime, you are probably unemployed, and advocating for WFH.

Over 200,000 people have come to New York City over the past two years. We do not have the capacity to absorb all these people. No one can survive in NYC collecting cans out of the trash. As someone who was just in DC in the springtime, you do not have the same kind of migrant issues that we do. There’s just no comparison. In addition, I had my first job at seven years old and I’ve worked really hard all my life. I am fully employed and a valued employee at my job. Over the past couple of years, my employer has gradually reduced our WFH to twice a month so I’m in the office nearly every day of the month. I don’t mind going into the office at all. When my kids were younger, the foreign-born nannies of their peers would approach my mother and tell her how friendly I am, but thanks for playing, a-hole…

Did anyone tell you that you should just shut up?

Is that the best you got?!?! LOL

Yes, some people don't need anything more than to realize they are that stupid and racist, they need to shut up. Explaining to such people why they need to shut up is pointless.

I’m neither stupid, nor racist. Scholarship student at top private high school and college. 2 advanced degrees from Ivy AND DH is poc. Ad hominem attacks are not arguments btw. Maybe you’re the one who should shut up, since you don’t know what you are talking about and don’t have anything to contribute but weird, easily disproven personal attacks.

Still a racist. Just bcs you have some education does not make you not a racist. You are also still stupid.
Keep writing your word salads here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Biden single-handedly destroyed immigration. We are no longer getting the best immigrants. We are getting the bottom of the barrel freebie wanting migrants that don’t want to work. What Trump said about Mexico not sending their best became true. Mexico ignores the cartel so long as they take care of business and send these migrants away from Mexico into the U.S. -many as drug mules for the cartel to bring drugs into the US. The jig is about to be up once Trump comes back in office. The border will be handled.

This is so xenophobic. I can’t believe Jeff has not deleted this disgusting thread.

These are human beings we are talking about.

I live in NYC. Believe me, these people are adding nothing. They have no capacity to earn a living to survive in a very expensive city. They have no business being here. FWIW I'm a registered Dem who will be voting for Harris. Trump is all bark and no bite.

Well, you can’t fix stupid.

NP. What is stupid about this? Do you live in NYC? I live in Manhattan. I've started seeing migrant families every day, sitting and begging in absolutely pathetic circumstances because they cannot feed or take care of themselves. NYC is one of the most expensive cities in the world. These migrants don't speak English, and generally resort to earning money to support themselves by (i) panhandling, (ii) selling candy on or in the subway system with their children, or (iii) scavenging cans from public trash cans. There's been an exponential increase on the streets of single men, women, and families sitting on the streets begging.

It really hurts me to see hungry kids, so when I can, I'll buy the families a meal. There's one woman who sits half a block away from my Midtown Whole Foods with her two small children (2 and 4, maybe?) all day, in the summer heat, with a sign asking for food. The other day I stopped into the WF and bought them 3 slices of pizza, 2 waters, and a box of strawberries and it cost $21. Obviously there are cheaper places to get a meal than Whole Foods, but that's pretty indicative of prices in this city. It's a HCOL city. Putting aside the policy question of whether we should be allowing migrants in the way we are, it's pretty logical and obvious that these migrants (generally poor foreigners with zero formal education or English language skills, often with small children to support) shouldn't be encouraged to come to NYC. It's not a place that you can support yourself easily as a newcomer with nothing, and that means NYC taxpayers are on the hook for you. I'm all for paying taxes, but I agree that the way NYC has to spend to keep up with this is too much.

Why are you posting this and questioning the administration’s border control?

You are being weird PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could you imagine someone who doesn’t know a lick of English becoming a U.S. citizen and able to take command to fight in a war or serve on a jury and decide on Americans’ fate?

? they don't serve on juries. Have you never had a jury summons? It asks if you speak English (which is technically not the official language of this country because we don't have one). And, also plenty of real Americans try to get out of jury duty.

As for fighting in a war, lots of immigrants join the US military to get a fast track to citizenship. I've had family members do that. One had a perfect command of the English language as they came here at the age of 5; the other came as a teenager, still had an accent, but could speak English. They both served this country.

As McCain stated, "I'm not going to tell that GI that we are going to deport his grandma.. you do it". (paraphrasing the quote).

[Anonymous]

NYC is not the only city spending billions on Biden's and Kamala's border crisis.
Denver, Boston, and other cities are paying big bucks at the expense of their own citizen residents.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/migrant-crisis-projected-cost-massachusetts-taxpayers-1-8-billion-over-next-two-years
https://commonsenseinstituteco.org/the-accumulated-costs-of-denver-migrants/

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Look I'm not pro GOP and I'm a kid of immigrants but the current policies are out of control. No easy answers now as that time has past. We have essentially 2 solutions - limit all immigration or let it continue which is why migrant cities need to spend. Short of that it's shut the door.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NYC is not the only city spending billions on Biden's and Kamala's border crisis.
Denver, Boston, and other cities are paying big bucks at the expense of their own citizen residents.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/migrant-crisis-projected-cost-massachusetts-taxpayers-1-8-billion-over-next-two-years
https://commonsenseinstituteco.org/the-accumulated-costs-of-denver-migrants/

Good. Everyone should receive equal treatment under the law. You don't deserve more government services just because you pay more taxes.

[Anonymous]

We have a lot of current legal immigrants and unsure we have infrastructure to support additional millions. At a certain point, it's about govt budgets. Also, it's not the same as back in the day times when everyone was on same par. With DEI and what not, you have people who are not immigrants really hurting for help as well. I agree that a lot of their prob may be self inflicted ie drugs, laziness, won't take a grunt job even if a job. But come on, you gotta take care of those in country too.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is not the only city spending billions on Biden's and Kamala's border crisis.
Denver, Boston, and other cities are paying big bucks at the expense of their own citizen residents.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/migrant-crisis-projected-cost-massachusetts-taxpayers-1-8-billion-over-next-two-years
https://commonsenseinstituteco.org/the-accumulated-costs-of-denver-migrants/

Good. Everyone should receive equal treatment under the law. You don't deserve more government services just because you pay more taxes.

OK but I'm confused. Why are you paying taxes? We either live in n a socialist society where per your argument - taxes cover all same or we live in US capitalist society where you pay for services. You can't have both and I'm actually a proponent of the former but you know that not US system. You can't have things both ways!

[Anonymous]

A Harris/Walz administration will NOT improve conditions at the border.

They will only make things worse. She has no plan for controlling illegal immigration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever. Who’s going to clean your toilets and and staff your daycares if we don’t bring in more immigrants? Who is going to take jobs at places like McDonald’s and grocery stores? We need these people.

THEY DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH. Some don’t even speak Spanish. They speak a native dialect. Those who speak Spanish sometimes can’t even read or write in their own language. Their limited language skills don’t qualify them for much beyond manual labor.

You sure are not racist!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Whatever. Who’s going to clean your toilets and and staff your daycares if we don’t bring in more immigrants? Who is going to take jobs at places like McDonald’s and grocery stores? We need these people.

THEY DON’T SPEAK ENGLISH. Some don’t even speak Spanish. They speak a native dialect. Those who speak Spanish sometimes can’t even read or write in their own language. Their limited language skills don’t qualify them for much beyond manual labor.

You sure are not racist!

Yet, what pp wrote is true.
Many of these migrants come and are illiterate in their home language. Especially the school aged migrants.
And, since English is actually the language of business, if someone cannot speak English, their options are very limited.