NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

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Funny that you chose Charlie Kirk's retweet rather than anyone else's (I have seen this from others on X). Hmm.
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jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.


I don't know the answer to this - could she access the funds if she's in the VP slot and someone else is the presidential candidate.

I don't want this to be true, but Harris seems like an enormous risk.


My understanding is no. She has to be the Presidential candidate.


You’re all acting as if Biden is brain dead. He’s stated very clearly, multiple times that he is keeping Harris very close. He said he wouldn't have picked VP Harris if he thought she wasn't qualified to be president. He will fight to make sure the 25th amendment operates automatically without needing to be explicitly invoked.[Section 1] Biden’s campaign funds automatically transfer to Harris, no one else. Biden will release his delegates to Harris.
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.


My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.


You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?
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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


No, and even if that were the case, just because the other guy is feeble or senile, doesn't mean you should be OK with your candidate being feeble or senile. The reality is that Biden is much more physically diminished than Trump. Mentally, they're both in decline, but in different ways. And from a moral perspective, Biden is well and Trump has always been pathological.

Biden's time is over. Harris will do a great job.



Harris is less qualified to lead than Biden right now. And she's less likely to win.

She’s more qualified than Trump.


So was Hilary.


There's more to getting elected than just being brainy. You need to be able to connect with people, and most people don't vote for someone who openly looks down on them.


This is rich. Trump’s VP literally wrote a memoir smearing the middle of the country as full of irredeemable lazy and entitled white trash racist drug addicts who deserve their regressing quality of life.
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Funny that you chose Charlie Kirk's retweet rather than anyone else's (I have seen this from others on X). Hmm.


Here's Halperin's report:https://twitter.com/2waytvapp/status/1814101445232189691
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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


No, and even if that were the case, just because the other guy is feeble or senile, doesn't mean you should be OK with your candidate being feeble or senile. The reality is that Biden is much more physically diminished than Trump. Mentally, they're both in decline, but in different ways. And from a moral perspective, Biden is well and Trump has always been pathological.

Biden's time is over. Harris will do a great job.



Harris is less qualified to lead than Biden right now. And she's less likely to win.

She’s more qualified than Trump.


So was Hilary.


There's more to getting elected than just being brainy. You need to be able to connect with people, and most people don't vote for someone who openly looks down on them.


This is rich. Trump’s VP literally wrote a memoir smearing the middle of the country as full of irredeemable lazy and entitled white trash racist drug addicts who deserve their regressing quality of life.


And JD and his wife are Yale Law School alums, same as Clinton duo. JD’s memoir was coastal elitist bullshit. Hilary never said anything nearly as vile.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine question:

If he very soon drops out of the race due to medical issues, how then can he still be fit to remain president for the next six months?

This is so irregular. What happens now?


He will say he’s going to focus on his family. Same excuse everyone gives to save face. Saying it’s for his family rather than due to health will enable him to finish his term.
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jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.


My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.


Yes, I agree with this assessment.
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I have a $100 bet with DW that Biden quits the race by midnight Sunday.

What shall I do with the $100 I am certainly going to win?
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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


The bad guys were the politicos behind the scenes running the show while Biden experienced a cognitive decline and the press that gaslighted us all into thinking he was ok when he wasn’t.


Trump is just as cognitively challenged.

Far worse. The man can’t stay awake on the dais. And he’s a matter of time before he does something really obvious. The GOP thinks they’re going to skate on his dementia, but they can’t hide Trump for long. When was the last actual interview he sat for?
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jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.


My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.


You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?


I expect that the VP choice will be a White male former or current governor. I don't think it matters which one.
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That sounds ridiculous and unbelievable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a $100 bet with DW that Biden quits the race by midnight Sunday.

What shall I do with the $100 I am certainly going to win?


Take her out to a nice restaurant, your treat

(I'm thinking Saturday, personally.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a $100 bet with DW that Biden quits the race by midnight Sunday.

What shall I do with the $100 I am certainly going to win?


Hookers and blow
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In 2016, Democrats rigged the super delegate process in their primary to stop Bernie Sanders.

In 2024, they wouldn’t allow debates. Biden won the primary.

Now Biden is being forced out before the convention. Rich donors will select a new candidate.

The party of democracy.

Well said.
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