Vacancies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

How would they do that if classes are already maxed out? For example, let's say "County Middle School" should have three Civics teachers, but they have an unfilled vacancy. Teacher #1 already has 150 students, Teacher #2 already has 150 students, and the vacancy should have 150 students. If they tried to split those 150 students between the other two teachers, they'd have 225 students each. Even if they both get put on extended contracts (teaching six classes rather than five), that would still make each class have 35-38 students. That's outrageous.

I’m gonna hold your hand when I say this. There is no real “maxed out.” You would have a class of 35 students.

They have to pay an additional stipend if a core teacher teaches more than 150 students.

okayyyy.

Why are you responding that way? It's in the contract.

That doesn’t mean it actually happens. The only time I’ve seen anyone get a Jefferson contract, which is the stipend you’re referring to, is when the additional students mean there’s a 6th section of classes, which takes away one planning period. Then they get the 20% stipend. Those are RARE. Admin will do anything to not have to give someone a Jefferson. Just having a high number of students in the normal number of sections? You are not getting extra $.

No, a Jefferson contract is different than the stipend. Two of my colleagues have taught five sections of their subject, but have had over 150 students, so they received the stipend. They still only had five sections.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There aren't nearly as many vacancies as there have been the last few years. Stop with the drama.

+1 sick of the drama around vacancies that crops up every year at the same time predictably. And cue the posts about how all the good teachers are snapped up at trans fair and in place before the summer and if your school doesn’t have everyone hired by then they are screwed. Hint: there’s a reason they are transferring or maybe they got destaffed or traded. Somehow life manages to go on come fall and it all works out.

Oh look the NAVY sub/mom returned It's not baseball honey teachers don't get traded. Life will go on....but depending who is teaching your kids-it might be a rough life. But you are correct there is nothing you can do but get those tutors ready.

If you only knew…principals can absolutely ask a favor of another principal to pick that teacher up if they want to get rid of them. Like in the case of a teacher who gets bad evaluations and is at trans fair - the principal who interviewed the teacher will call the former principal and ask what the deal is. The principal will tell them and often as a favor the new principal will take the bad teacher.

+1 yep happens all the time

[Anonymous]

Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

Let me guess, 88pct?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

Let me guess, 88pct?

Yep. That’s 21/24 positions filled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t we just go without those positions. If it’s a Gen Ed position, the other Gen Ed teachers in that grade or content level simply have bigger classes to absorb the students that teacher would’ve theoretically taught. If it’s an EL position, the kids who need El support in their class may not have an EL teacher to do that. If it’s a sped position, the same. It creates issues with class size, staff workload, and student support, but you can’t make people take these jobs and fewer and fewer people want them.

Also, as a general rule, the later in the year that someone is hired, the greater the likelihood they are not a great candidate. The good people are snatched up early when hiring begins. If someone is getting hired in July/August, it’s usually a “there aren’t any other options” situation where the school needs a body and hopes for the best. There’s some exceptions to this, like someone happens to just move to this area in late summer and they’re really good, but generally speaking, the last minute fill-ins for these jobs leave something to be desired.

How would they do that if classes are already maxed out? For example, let's say "County Middle School" should have three Civics teachers, but they have an unfilled vacancy. Teacher #1 already has 150 students, Teacher #2 already has 150 students, and the vacancy should have 150 students. If they tried to split those 150 students between the other two teachers, they'd have 225 students each. Even if they both get put on extended contracts (teaching six classes rather than five), that would still make each class have 35-38 students. That's outrageous.

I’m gonna hold your hand when I say this. There is no real “maxed out.” You would have a class of 35 students.

They have to pay an additional stipend if a core teacher teaches more than 150 students.

okayyyy.

Why are you responding that way? It's in the contract.

That doesn’t mean it actually happens. The only time I’ve seen anyone get a Jefferson contract, which is the stipend you’re referring to, is when the additional students mean there’s a 6th section of classes, which takes away one planning period. Then they get the 20% stipend. Those are RARE. Admin will do anything to not have to give someone a Jefferson. Just having a high number of students in the normal number of sections? You are not getting extra $.

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/FY2024-teacher-195-day.pdf

What is refered to as a "Jefferson" contract is the "Extended Day" scale. It is specific to TJ (from what I understand). TJ has a slightly longer school day.
The "Additional Teaching Assignment" is for a teacher taking on a sixth class and giving up one of thier non-teaching periods. It is a 12% salary bump, not 20%.
If a teacher goes over 150 students in five class periods, there is a small salary bump. (This may not apply to DE classes.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

Let me guess, 88pct?

Yep. That’s 21/24 positions filled.

I don't even know where you came up with those numbers but have at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

I’m so happy that the navy moms are happy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There aren't nearly as many vacancies as there have been the last few years. Stop with the drama.

+1 sick of the drama around vacancies that crops up every year at the same time predictably. And cue the posts about how all the good teachers are snapped up at trans fair and in place before the summer and if your school doesn’t have everyone hired by then they are screwed. Hint: there’s a reason they are transferring or maybe they got destaffed or traded. Somehow life manages to go on come fall and it all works out.

Oh look the NAVY sub/mom returned It's not baseball honey teachers don't get traded. Life will go on....but depending who is teaching your kids-it might be a rough life. But you are correct there is nothing you can do but get those tutors ready.

Wasn’t the Navy sub/mom the one being alarmist about how many teachers were quitting? It was some other non sub mom trying to act like all the vacancies were no big deal.

None of us will know how bad or not bad things are until next school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There aren't nearly as many vacancies as there have been the last few years. Stop with the drama.

+1 sick of the drama around vacancies that crops up every year at the same time predictably. And cue the posts about how all the good teachers are snapped up at trans fair and in place before the summer and if your school doesn’t have everyone hired by then they are screwed. Hint: there’s a reason they are transferring or maybe they got destaffed or traded. Somehow life manages to go on come fall and it all works out.

Oh look the NAVY sub/mom returned It's not baseball honey teachers don't get traded. Life will go on....but depending who is teaching your kids-it might be a rough life. But you are correct there is nothing you can do but get those tutors ready.

Wasn’t the Navy sub/mom the one being alarmist about how many teachers were quitting? It was some other non sub mom trying to act like all the vacancies were no big deal.

None of us will know how bad or not bad things are until next school year.

Correct, that’s why there is no point in stressing now. Enjoy your summer! But in the meantime, bask in the fact that the SOL scores at this school shot up tremendously under the new principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

Let me guess, 88pct?

Yep. That’s 21/24 positions filled.

I don't even know where you came up with those numbers but have at it.

21/24 is 88%. Simple math, dear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There aren't nearly as many vacancies as there have been the last few years. Stop with the drama.

+1 sick of the drama around vacancies that crops up every year at the same time predictably. And cue the posts about how all the good teachers are snapped up at trans fair and in place before the summer and if your school doesn’t have everyone hired by then they are screwed. Hint: there’s a reason they are transferring or maybe they got destaffed or traded. Somehow life manages to go on come fall and it all works out.

Oh look the NAVY sub/mom returned It's not baseball honey teachers don't get traded. Life will go on....but depending who is teaching your kids-it might be a rough life. But you are correct there is nothing you can do but get those tutors ready.

Wasn’t the Navy sub/mom the one being alarmist about how many teachers were quitting? It was some other non sub mom trying to act like all the vacancies were no big deal.

None of us will know how bad or not bad things are until next school year.

Correct, that’s why there is no point in stressing now. Enjoy your summer! But in the meantime, bask in the fact that the SOL scores at this school shot up tremendously under the new principal.

Nothing to do with the principals....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There aren't nearly as many vacancies as there have been the last few years. Stop with the drama.

+1 sick of the drama around vacancies that crops up every year at the same time predictably. And cue the posts about how all the good teachers are snapped up at trans fair and in place before the summer and if your school doesn’t have everyone hired by then they are screwed. Hint: there’s a reason they are transferring or maybe they got destaffed or traded. Somehow life manages to go on come fall and it all works out.

Oh look the NAVY sub/mom returned It's not baseball honey teachers don't get traded. Life will go on....but depending who is teaching your kids-it might be a rough life. But you are correct there is nothing you can do but get those tutors ready.

Wasn’t the Navy sub/mom the one being alarmist about how many teachers were quitting? It was some other non sub mom trying to act like all the vacancies were no big deal.

None of us will know how bad or not bad things are until next school year.

Correct, that’s why there is no point in stressing now. Enjoy your summer! But in the meantime, bask in the fact that the SOL scores at this school shot up tremendously under the new principal.

Nothing to do with the principals....

It absolutely does. Principals lead the teachers and set the tone for the entire school and the expectations for teaching. This past year we saw some of the best teaching ever at Navy - I’m sure they were on their A game to impress the new guy. Well done!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got an update from our school - vacancies are nearly filled - woo!

Let me guess, 88pct?

Yep. That’s 21/24 positions filled.

I don't even know where you came up with those numbers but have at it.

21/24 is 88%. Simple math, dear.

Ok Einstein. I don't see where you come up with 24 when there were 8 vacancies on the website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There aren't nearly as many vacancies as there have been the last few years. Stop with the drama.

+1 sick of the drama around vacancies that crops up every year at the same time predictably. And cue the posts about how all the good teachers are snapped up at trans fair and in place before the summer and if your school doesn’t have everyone hired by then they are screwed. Hint: there’s a reason they are transferring or maybe they got destaffed or traded. Somehow life manages to go on come fall and it all works out.

Oh look the NAVY sub/mom returned It's not baseball honey teachers don't get traded. Life will go on....but depending who is teaching your kids-it might be a rough life. But you are correct there is nothing you can do but get those tutors ready.

Wasn’t the Navy sub/mom the one being alarmist about how many teachers were quitting? It was some other non sub mom trying to act like all the vacancies were no big deal.

None of us will know how bad or not bad things are until next school year.

Correct, that’s why there is no point in stressing now. Enjoy your summer! But in the meantime, bask in the fact that the SOL scores at this school shot up tremendously under the new principal.

How do you know all SOL scores went up? Only a subset were listed.