APS School Board Chair Drama

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Anonymous wrote:Civ Fed recommends 2 year terms for chairs. Most other area districts elect them to 4 year terms. Maybe they’re talking about moving to that cycle.

Y'all really want Miranda to be chair for 2 years? Buh bye to APS.

APE took over civ fed so yes they want this.

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Anonymous wrote:I too am having a really hard time believing that everyone on the Board is against Mary. This whole post just came out of left field. If I didn't know better, I would think that OP was trying to smear Christina and David. And for what? They're leaving.

It doesn’t make sense that OP would smear Cristina and David. It also doesn’t make sense they hate Mary.

DP. Well she did smear Cristina and David by naming them publicly in the thread.

Those two deserved to be smeared

If the whole point is to make sure Mary becomes the chair, smearing two colleagues, even if they deserve it, isn't it. After they leave, they are going to still be influential in APS politics too. See Tannia, Barbara, Reid. Good luck to AEM OP.


I just don't even get what her supporters are trying to accomplish here. The whole post made Mary look worse.

WTF? It doesn’t make her look worse.

Maybe you're an insider who knows all the deets, but for me a call for emails to the Arlington County School Board based on unsubstantiated rumors, calling out other SB members who may or may not have anything to do with it is so stupid. I hope Mary and her friends can fix it because I actually do like her as a school board member and think she would be just as good of a chairperson as anyone else.

Did Mary ask for people to email about it? I didn’t see her post.

Of course not. You're just being obtuse. AEM OP did the job for Mary, whether she asked for it or not. And boy did she go hard. And not in a good way. Hope they got what they wanted out of it. Because from where I sit, AEM OP and friends just made it a lot harder for Mary to conduct business with her colleagues.

You are blaming someone for the actions of others.

The issue here isn’t MK. Or frankly even the post.

Right, talk about deflection. Let's talk about the three board members trying to oust a member for doing her d*mn job and doing it well.

But you don't want to talk about that, do you?

I wake up this morning and an unhinged person fills up two whole pages of more angry accusations and retorts. Source, "trust me, I'm an insider". Mary doesn't have best interests looking out for her. Do you hear what you're saying? Peak Arlington right here. Self importance is quite the charm.

I'm not in anyone's camp including Mary's. I like her as a SB member, but honestly, the others have been quite kind to me too. I have no reason to believe that they are as Machiavellian evil as overnight OP portrays.

So please do what AEM OP urges. Write each individual member board member under your real name individually and yell at them for a rumor that you heard from another "insider". Also go to AEM and post all of these nonsensical accusations for everyone to see under your real name again. Please report back how that goes. I'm not doing a thing for any of of you or Mary. She's a big girl and if true, has agency to settle this issue behind closed doors. Get your gavel, woman! She still has to work with them for six months regardless what happens and some of you are making it much, much worse for her.

More deflection! Can we get back to talking about what CDT, BZS and DP are doing? They are trying to block Mary from being chair and installing Bethany instead! You will do anything to avoid talking about this won't you? So sorry your little scheme is now out in the open, that complicates things for you.

Listen to yourselves. There are a few things I've learned in the past few days

1.) Mary is this fragile, wilted flower and um, minions must fight for her to keep their own insiderness/power over others?
2.) Anyone who isn't "in the know" is a CDT/DP minion. I didn't even know there were CDT/DP supporters until today. Lol.
3.) We should all follow Mary supporters and their unsubstantiated conclusions, based on wtf and omg.

Based on the AEM and DCUM threads, I'm losing a lot of respect for her quickly. I hope that was your goal, because I'm not the only 'commoner' coming to the same point. Keep doing what you're doing though and see what results you and Mary get.

Thank you. This whole thread and its insider vs minion theme just shows how out of touch some people have become. Can you stop insulting people who are trying to make sense of the worst timeline? Because the rumors and innuendo make no sense. There's no reason why CDT, DP and even BZS should hate Mary this much to take away her speakership role. Even if she is against the career center.

Mary is an outstanding board member. She needs to speak for herself now since her own supporters are showing who they are.

Mary won't throw the others under the bus, but she should openly address if she wants to be chair.

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Anonymous wrote:I too am having a really hard time believing that everyone on the Board is against Mary. This whole post just came out of left field. If I didn't know better, I would think that OP was trying to smear Christina and David. And for what? They're leaving.

It doesn’t make sense that OP would smear Cristina and David. It also doesn’t make sense they hate Mary.

DP. Well she did smear Cristina and David by naming them publicly in the thread.

Those two deserved to be smeared

If the whole point is to make sure Mary becomes the chair, smearing two colleagues, even if they deserve it, isn't it. After they leave, they are going to still be influential in APS politics too. See Tannia, Barbara, Reid. Good luck to AEM OP.


I just don't even get what her supporters are trying to accomplish here. The whole post made Mary look worse.

WTF? It doesn’t make her look worse.

Maybe you're an insider who knows all the deets, but for me a call for emails to the Arlington County School Board based on unsubstantiated rumors, calling out other SB members who may or may not have anything to do with it is so stupid. I hope Mary and her friends can fix it because I actually do like her as a school board member and think she would be just as good of a chairperson as anyone else.

Did Mary ask for people to email about it? I didn’t see her post.

Of course not. You're just being obtuse. AEM OP did the job for Mary, whether she asked for it or not. And boy did she go hard. And not in a good way. Hope they got what they wanted out of it. Because from where I sit, AEM OP and friends just made it a lot harder for Mary to conduct business with her colleagues.

You are blaming someone for the actions of others.

The issue here isn’t MK. Or frankly even the post.

Right, talk about deflection. Let's talk about the three board members trying to oust a member for doing her d*mn job and doing it well.

But you don't want to talk about that, do you?

I wake up this morning and an unhinged person fills up two whole pages of more angry accusations and retorts. Source, "trust me, I'm an insider". Mary doesn't have best interests looking out for her. Do you hear what you're saying? Peak Arlington right here. Self importance is quite the charm.

I'm not in anyone's camp including Mary's. I like her as a SB member, but honestly, the others have been quite kind to me too. I have no reason to believe that they are as Machiavellian evil as overnight OP portrays.

So please do what AEM OP urges. Write each individual member board member under your real name individually and yell at them for a rumor that you heard from another "insider". Also go to AEM and post all of these nonsensical accusations for everyone to see under your real name again. Please report back how that goes. I'm not doing a thing for any of of you or Mary. She's a big girl and if true, has agency to settle this issue behind closed doors. Get your gavel, woman! She still has to work with them for six months regardless what happens and some of you are making it much, much worse for her.

More deflection! Can we get back to talking about what CDT, BZS and DP are doing? They are trying to block Mary from being chair and installing Bethany instead! You will do anything to avoid talking about this won't you? So sorry your little scheme is now out in the open, that complicates things for you.

Listen to yourselves. There are a few things I've learned in the past few days

1.) Mary is this fragile, wilted flower and um, minions must fight for her to keep their own insiderness/power over others?
2.) Anyone who isn't "in the know" is a CDT/DP minion. I didn't even know there were CDT/DP supporters until today. Lol.
3.) We should all follow Mary supporters and their unsubstantiated conclusions, based on wtf and omg.

Based on the AEM and DCUM threads, I'm losing a lot of respect for her quickly. I hope that was your goal, because I'm not the only 'commoner' coming to the same point. Keep doing what you're doing though and see what results you and Mary get.

How on earth do AEM and DCUM comments about MK affect your “respect” for her? So irrational.

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Anonymous wrote:I too am having a really hard time believing that everyone on the Board is against Mary. This whole post just came out of left field. If I didn't know better, I would think that OP was trying to smear Christina and David. And for what? They're leaving.

It doesn’t make sense that OP would smear Cristina and David. It also doesn’t make sense they hate Mary.

DP. Well she did smear Cristina and David by naming them publicly in the thread.

Those two deserved to be smeared

If the whole point is to make sure Mary becomes the chair, smearing two colleagues, even if they deserve it, isn't it. After they leave, they are going to still be influential in APS politics too. See Tannia, Barbara, Reid. Good luck to AEM OP.


I just don't even get what her supporters are trying to accomplish here. The whole post made Mary look worse.

WTF? It doesn’t make her look worse.

Maybe you're an insider who knows all the deets, but for me a call for emails to the Arlington County School Board based on unsubstantiated rumors, calling out other SB members who may or may not have anything to do with it is so stupid. I hope Mary and her friends can fix it because I actually do like her as a school board member and think she would be just as good of a chairperson as anyone else.

Did Mary ask for people to email about it? I didn’t see her post.

Of course not. You're just being obtuse. AEM OP did the job for Mary, whether she asked for it or not. And boy did she go hard. And not in a good way. Hope they got what they wanted out of it. Because from where I sit, AEM OP and friends just made it a lot harder for Mary to conduct business with her colleagues.

You are blaming someone for the actions of others.

The issue here isn’t MK. Or frankly even the post.

Right, talk about deflection. Let's talk about the three board members trying to oust a member for doing her d*mn job and doing it well.

But you don't want to talk about that, do you?

I wake up this morning and an unhinged person fills up two whole pages of more angry accusations and retorts. Source, "trust me, I'm an insider". Mary doesn't have best interests looking out for her. Do you hear what you're saying? Peak Arlington right here. Self importance is quite the charm.

I'm not in anyone's camp including Mary's. I like her as a SB member, but honestly, the others have been quite kind to me too. I have no reason to believe that they are as Machiavellian evil as overnight OP portrays.

So please do what AEM OP urges. Write each individual member board member under your real name individually and yell at them for a rumor that you heard from another "insider". Also go to AEM and post all of these nonsensical accusations for everyone to see under your real name again. Please report back how that goes. I'm not doing a thing for any of of you or Mary. She's a big girl and if true, has agency to settle this issue behind closed doors. Get your gavel, woman! She still has to work with them for six months regardless what happens and some of you are making it much, much worse for her.

More deflection! Can we get back to talking about what CDT, BZS and DP are doing? They are trying to block Mary from being chair and installing Bethany instead! You will do anything to avoid talking about this won't you? So sorry your little scheme is now out in the open, that complicates things for you.

Listen to yourselves. There are a few things I've learned in the past few days

1.) Mary is this fragile, wilted flower and um, minions must fight for her to keep their own insiderness/power over others?
2.) Anyone who isn't "in the know" is a CDT/DP minion. I didn't even know there were CDT/DP supporters until today. Lol.
3.) We should all follow Mary supporters and their unsubstantiated conclusions, based on wtf and omg.

Based on the AEM and DCUM threads, I'm losing a lot of respect for her quickly. I hope that was your goal, because I'm not the only 'commoner' coming to the same point. Keep doing what you're doing though and see what results you and Mary get.

How on earth do AEM and DCUM comments about MK affect your “respect” for her? So irrational.

Even if she's not outright condoning what her supporters say, everything here and in AEM is reflecting badly on her. I really hope she doesn't think that "insiders" should have all the sway in APS politics. Ew. She really needs new "insiders" because her current ones are elitist trash.

You know what's irrational though? Listening to and following blindly behind people who have no facts besides "because I say so" and "I'm an insider".

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Anonymous wrote:I too am having a really hard time believing that everyone on the Board is against Mary. This whole post just came out of left field. If I didn't know better, I would think that OP was trying to smear Christina and David. And for what? They're leaving.

It doesn’t make sense that OP would smear Cristina and David. It also doesn’t make sense they hate Mary.

DP. Well she did smear Cristina and David by naming them publicly in the thread.

Those two deserved to be smeared

If the whole point is to make sure Mary becomes the chair, smearing two colleagues, even if they deserve it, isn't it. After they leave, they are going to still be influential in APS politics too. See Tannia, Barbara, Reid. Good luck to AEM OP.


I just don't even get what her supporters are trying to accomplish here. The whole post made Mary look worse.

WTF? It doesn’t make her look worse.

Maybe you're an insider who knows all the deets, but for me a call for emails to the Arlington County School Board based on unsubstantiated rumors, calling out other SB members who may or may not have anything to do with it is so stupid. I hope Mary and her friends can fix it because I actually do like her as a school board member and think she would be just as good of a chairperson as anyone else.

Did Mary ask for people to email about it? I didn’t see her post.

Of course not. You're just being obtuse. AEM OP did the job for Mary, whether she asked for it or not. And boy did she go hard. And not in a good way. Hope they got what they wanted out of it. Because from where I sit, AEM OP and friends just made it a lot harder for Mary to conduct business with her colleagues.

You are blaming someone for the actions of others.

The issue here isn’t MK. Or frankly even the post.

Right, talk about deflection. Let's talk about the three board members trying to oust a member for doing her d*mn job and doing it well.

But you don't want to talk about that, do you?

I wake up this morning and an unhinged person fills up two whole pages of more angry accusations and retorts. Source, "trust me, I'm an insider". Mary doesn't have best interests looking out for her. Do you hear what you're saying? Peak Arlington right here. Self importance is quite the charm.

I'm not in anyone's camp including Mary's. I like her as a SB member, but honestly, the others have been quite kind to me too. I have no reason to believe that they are as Machiavellian evil as overnight OP portrays.

So please do what AEM OP urges. Write each individual member board member under your real name individually and yell at them for a rumor that you heard from another "insider". Also go to AEM and post all of these nonsensical accusations for everyone to see under your real name again. Please report back how that goes. I'm not doing a thing for any of of you or Mary. She's a big girl and if true, has agency to settle this issue behind closed doors. Get your gavel, woman! She still has to work with them for six months regardless what happens and some of you are making it much, much worse for her.

More deflection! Can we get back to talking about what CDT, BZS and DP are doing? They are trying to block Mary from being chair and installing Bethany instead! You will do anything to avoid talking about this won't you? So sorry your little scheme is now out in the open, that complicates things for you.

Listen to yourselves. There are a few things I've learned in the past few days

1.) Mary is this fragile, wilted flower and um, minions must fight for her to keep their own insiderness/power over others?
2.) Anyone who isn't "in the know" is a CDT/DP minion. I didn't even know there were CDT/DP supporters until today. Lol.
3.) We should all follow Mary supporters and their unsubstantiated conclusions, based on wtf and omg.

Based on the AEM and DCUM threads, I'm losing a lot of respect for her quickly. I hope that was your goal, because I'm not the only 'commoner' coming to the same point. Keep doing what you're doing though and see what results you and Mary get.

How on earth do AEM and DCUM comments about MK affect your “respect” for her? So irrational.

Even if she's not outright condoning what her supporters say, everything here and in AEM is reflecting badly on her. I really hope she doesn't think that "insiders" should have all the sway in APS politics. Ew. She really needs new "insiders" because her current ones are elitist trash.

You know what's irrational though? Listening to and following blindly behind people who have no facts besides "because I say so" and "I'm an insider".

No, it doesn’t reflect on her one way or another AT ALL.

Why TF are you blaming her for the actions of others? How does your brain get from here to there? Explain your faulty “reasoning” here. Oh wait, you can’t.

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Another thread taken over by APE

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Anonymous wrote:Another thread taken over by APE

Yup. They always out themselves by being super aggressive and super irrational.

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Yup. They always out themselves by being super aggressive and super irrational.

Nope. Not APE at all. Ew. I hope Miranda is passed over too. But nice deflection as you've said in the past! There's a lot of projection too.

Mary should be more scared of her supporters than CDT, DP or BZS. Good luck with whatever goals you have because I can't figure out why you think I would listen to people who are pushing rumors and conjecture, dragging down other SB members along with Mary.

I deal with facts, ma'am. Bring it and I'll evaluate and get back to you.

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If any of you are truly friends with Mary, you need to tell her to say something. It's one thing to be above it all, but she's now a doormat being trampled over by supporters and questioners. She wouldn't throw her colleagues under the bus like some of you have tried again and again, but she needs to take control of the narrative and put this s***show to rest.

I'd also encourage you to stop speaking on her behalf. You're doing a bad job.

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I'm not sure why you're so sure this reflects badly on MK. I'm not on AEM and am just reading this thread here, but reading this stuff about how she has stuck to her own opinions even if they're not the majority's makes me like her more, and it annoys me that she is getting punished for it by getting shut out as if by mean girls in high school. Better for people to know what's going on, no?

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Anonymous wrote:Takis was skipped for vice chair of the county board 2 years ago. They went with Libby. They also skipped Vihstadt. There’s no rightful turn. This whole thread is us versus them with very few facts.

Different board, they do things differently. We are talking about the school board. Mary is the next in line.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not in AEM, so can't respond to what's going on there. I like Mary. She's a great school board member and usually responds when I write her. No other board member does so. But now I'm wondering wtf she did to piss off so many of her colleagues that they would actually try to keep her from the chair position. I can't believe it's because 3-4 people don't like that she works harder than them.

Coincidence that Barbara tried to pull this same petty crap with EV-S?

Mary crossed Cristina and David by dissenting from the vote to enter the design phase for the Career Center project back in 2022. The rumors about not making Mary chair started swirling before the recent vote to approve the Career Center construction contract. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mary voted yes on that, despite her misgivings, because voting no would have prompted retaliation from Cristina and David. I wouldn’t be surprised either if Mary’s yes vote wasn’t enough because Cristina and David still don’t trust Mary to be a steward of the project.

Yep. CDT and DP see this project as their legacy.

Bingo. This is about the career center. She was the sole dissenting vote to advance it in 2022, and immediately afterward Barbara Kanninen flew off the handle and excoriated her.

It’s not enough that those 3 and the central office staff got their way. They demand total unanimity, because when things go wrong they want the CYA that comes from saying “no one warned us”. And if everyone always agrees then voters don’t have records to compare come election season.

MK is not a bomb-thrower, she doesn’t insult people or attack their motives. If thinking for herself and occasionally coming to a different conclusion is enough to cause two lame ducks to try to sabotage her, throw a ton of precedent out the window, and damage the SB as an institution, that tells me the SB is in a pretty bad place, and needs independent thinkers more than ever.

Who cares. The Career Center has been voted on. And I don't think there's enough votes even with the new SB members to derail it. Both Kathleen and especially Zuraya are company people. I don't think Mary is the type of person to relegislate an issue again. It's done.

Apparently 3 board members care, that's the problem. Mary didn't go along with them, now payback time.

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Anonymous wrote:BK isn't on the board anymore. And in 6 months, neither will CDT or DP.

They are on the board for the vote.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why you're so sure this reflects badly on MK. I'm not on AEM and am just reading this thread here, but reading this stuff about how she has stuck to her own opinions even if they're not the majority's makes me like her more, and it annoys me that she is getting punished for it by getting shut out as if by mean girls in high school. Better for people to know what's going on, no?

Correct, the ppl complaining would have rather it be kept quiet.

Of course it doesn't reflect badly on Mary. It does reflect very badly on Cristina, Bethany and David. And maybe Miranda too, IDK what her involvement is.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why you're so sure this reflects badly on MK. I'm not on AEM and am just reading this thread here, but reading this stuff about how she has stuck to her own opinions even if they're not the majority's makes me like her more, and it annoys me that she is getting punished for it by getting shut out as if by mean girls in high school. Better for people to know what's going on, no?

DP. I like Mary and the fact that she is thoughtful and deliberative in her discussions and decisions. I don't think anyone certainly nobody I know has a problem with her and think she will be a fine SB chair. I have a problem with people in here and AEM are responding to rumors and denigrating other SB members for what is perceived to be happening. Do we even know that Mary is being shut out of the SB chair role, and why it's being done so besides some "insider" told us so? Who even told the insider? Mary? Every reason that supporters have thrown out makes no sense to me. So we are called minions and not "in the know". Whatever.

I am not a Cristina or David apologist, but my experiences with them have been the opposite. I can't see them treating Mary with such scorn just because they don't like her and her position/votes on issues before her. I think like the poster above, this issue needs to be laid to rest with Mary just making a short statement on maybe her intention to run as SB chair and to calm down the community. She's better than all of this hate in here.