AAP Appeals Questions Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Daughter is in!! I'm delighted since our local school only qualified her for Level II (mediocre GBRS, I don't think they know how to handle her).

Does anyone know if kids can still be placed in Level IV if they are transferring schools? She was slated to attend a magnet school next year. We weren't sure what the appeal outcome would be and just needed her out of her local school.

School A: Our local school, which does not have Level IV.
School B: Center Level IV AAP school
School C: Magnet school, which is also a Level IV AAP center school (but our local school doesn't feed into it).

The portal only shows options to attend school A or B, accept level III, or decline services.

Contact the magnet school and ask if that’s the one you want. We are in a magnet program already and allowed to stay for level IV there outside of our boundary because we are already in the school. It was not an option in our portal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed that my child who was no less than 98th percentile in everything was not accepted. I’m trying hard to understand why. It was a solid application.

Feel like you need 99th to get in. DC had 98 on nnat and 99 on cogat and got rejected the first time. She took the wisc v and got 99th so we're in from appeal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed that my child who was no less than 98th percentile in everything was not accepted. I’m trying hard to understand why. It was a solid application.

Feel like you need 99th to get in. DC had 98 on nnat and 99 on cogat and got rejected the first time. She took the wisc v and got 99th so we're in from appeal

Did you prep and where?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed that my child who was no less than 98th percentile in everything was not accepted. I’m trying hard to understand why. It was a solid application.

Feel like you need 99th to get in. DC had 98 on nnat and 99 on cogat and got rejected the first time. She took the wisc v and got 99th so we're in from appeal

Did you prep and where?

0 prep

[Anonymous]

Thats great. Im shocked someone with that high of test scores would be rejected in the first place! I'm glad she got in through appeals though! How did you make the case in the appeals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thats great. Im shocked someone with that high of test scores would be rejected in the first place! I'm glad she got in through appeals though! How did you make the case in the appeals?

We were shocked too but we submitted better writing samples the second time.

[Anonymous]

Got in. Child is at a center school level 4 already.

Took wisc and was 99+ percentile and submitted very STEM - related work products (5 diff samples). Original NNAT was low 81 percentile but seemed like an off day and CoGat was 97 percentile. HOPE Assessment didn’t seem to accurately portray our kid so the appeals cover letter and work product addressed those gaps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed that my child who was no less than 98th percentile in everything was not accepted. I’m trying hard to understand why. It was a solid application.

Feel like you need 99th to get in. DC had 98 on nnat and 99 on cogat and got rejected the first time. She took the wisc v and got 99th so we're in from appeal

Similar here - 98th for grade/99th for age on CogAT, 99th on WISC V. Did not prep at all. (Prior to this forum I didn't know prepping was a thing 😂)

We looked at examples of gifted traits and tried to tie work samples and descriptions to those characteristics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am disappointed that my child who was no less than 98th percentile in everything was not accepted. I’m trying hard to understand why. It was a solid application.

Feel like you need 99th to get in. DC had 98 on nnat and 99 on cogat and got rejected the first time. She took the wisc v and got 99th so we're in from appeal

Similar here - 98th for grade/99th for age on CogAT, 99th on WISC V. Did not prep at all. (Prior to this forum I didn't know prepping was a thing 😂)

We looked at examples of gifted traits and tried to tie work samples and descriptions to those characteristics.

I guess 99th on wisc v def helps on appeal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hello 7:00; goodbye 7:00 Ugh

And hello 7AM 🤯 anxious nights rest anyone?!?Cheers to all the newly admitted and cheers to next year to those who were not ☺️

[Anonymous]

08:09 adding - the NNAT was much lower (68th maybe?), but that was a really bad year for her with lots of upheaval. GBRS ratings were mediocre. Kiddo is neurodivergent and I think the school doesn't know what to do with her or appreciate her quirks.

[Anonymous]

Hopefully next year is full of growth for all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just received the email. DC is in.

Can you share info about what you did to get in? My kid got rejected after very high scores on everything! What grade is your child in?

Thanks.

Can I ask about what your Hope evaluation looked like?

Our son got in on appeal - sorry you got rejected and it sounds strange. Our original packet weak point was very clearly Hope. So we addressed that head-on in cover letter, as well as with WISC-V score, ADHD diagnosis information and a new and improved winter over fall CoGAT. We added new super AAP-focused samples and also a letter from his first grade teachers who asked to write one, saying they could not believe he wasnt accepted to begin with.

Who knows what did it. We are glad but sorry for you bc it seems hard to know what the yes/no factor. We are, however, not fans of Hope and its application.

We had very good scores initially (including perfect NNAT) but the Hope was not good, maybe terrible. We had a few meetings and found out more or less that our team low scored many kids on Hope. (They told us many kids got “never” for everything - ! - and the fact that our son was above that - with “sometimes” - was positive. But we knew it had to look terrible on the county evaluation end.)

I can deep dive into the - to us - wild standards they were using but I think the Hope scoring, esp in the rollout year here is the opposite of the intention- it holds kids back rather than includes them. We wonder if it is especially not great for kids who are not extra outgoing or are 2e. (We get that leadership is part of the AAP system in general.)

(Though it very well could be there are accepted cases that disprove this and we don’t see bc they got in w lower testing and high Hope and were happy/successful.)

Anyway, we - and our school team made us feel they don’t disagree - really have concerns about Hope.

What did that look like in your packet?

[Anonymous]

What does one use to apply for next year if the deadline of s this coming December and 98 percentile on NNAT, Cogat, Wisc were rejected this year? Will it just be the same packet with new HOPE and Q1 results?

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It feels like you either get in from 2nd grade or you are caught out? True?