How many teachers are leaving your school next year?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.

i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.

I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.

You’re free to leave at any time.

Lots are! Telling people to leave or get over it doesn’t seem to be working out too well, does it?

Nope

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What I find interesting is that the pay raises that the Northern Virginia counties are so much larger than the raises that teachers elsewhere in the state are getting. Our counties have shown that they are committed to increasing salaries. We should be proud of that.

What I don’t get is why Fairfax County seems to be holding out hope that Richmond will give the wealthy counties additional education funding. Can someone explain why the BOS and SB keep talking about this? I don’t understand what this all is based on.

There are areas of the state where the schools are all in true crisis and where most of the population lives in poverty. I don’t think it’s Richmond’s responsibility to subsidize the choices of the Fairfax County BOS and SB, even when those choices are good like increasing teacher salaries. Our schools are high performing already and help should be going elsewhere.

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FCPS is getting 3% increase but no step.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.

i don't think you do get it.

you are not a teacher.

this thread probably has more to do about the end of the year and who is staying, leaving, retiring, or taking a leave of absence.

it has nothing to do with the budget.

I agree! This has nothing to do with budgets and everything to do with working conditions.

I would take better conditions over more pay. I’d love to know what a mere 40 hour week feels like. I’ll take that over a $20K raise.

You’re free to leave at any time.

I’m the PP. I made an extremely reasonable comment. Nowhere did I say I want to quit. I merely said better working conditions would be nice.

I don’t think telling teachers to quit over such benign comments is in anybody’s best interest. Trust me - you don’t want me to quit. I’m the teacher you’re calling the office to get your kid switched to.

DP
I also didn’t read your post as a complaint. When I read the earlier post where someone asked if anyone complains as much as teachers I thought, “This thread doesn’t have many complaints”. That always seems to happen though. Someone asks a question, a teacher responds with info or an opinion, and then someone replies with, “Well, you can quit. Stop complaining”.

If someone is very unhappy with working conditions and pay they can leave. That’s a fact.

Or they can just stop doing all the BS....which many teachers have and parents don't like that. If parents don't like it they can homeschool or go private.

The people who live here will just move if they can afford it if the schools decline. No idea why so much Hate but I'd rather live in West Virginia and home school rather than sending my kids to teachers with so much Hate.

And you are free to do that-go find your happiness.

Yeah really, don't let the door hit you in the ...

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Anonymous wrote:What I find interesting is that the pay raises that the Northern Virginia counties are so much larger than the raises that teachers elsewhere in the state are getting. Our counties have shown that they are committed to increasing salaries. We should be proud of that.

What I don’t get is why Fairfax County seems to be holding out hope that Richmond will give the wealthy counties additional education funding. Can someone explain why the BOS and SB keep talking about this? I don’t understand what this all is based on.

There are areas of the state where the schools are all in true crisis and where most of the population lives in poverty. I don’t think it’s Richmond’s responsibility to subsidize the choices of the Fairfax County BOS and SB, even when those choices are good like increasing teacher salaries. Our schools are high performing already and help should be going elsewhere.

Stop....you are having an entirely different conversation with yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS is getting 3% increase but no step.

Looked at vacancy list...many more added this week.

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Anonymous wrote:What on earth are they doing differently in PW to get the pay higher than Fairfax?

I wonder if they have fewer administrators and central office staff.

Is it because they (PW) don't have that second pension? That $ has to be funded somehow.

That said, the gap between the highest earnings in the 2 counties is really surprising.

It’s because the kids are more difficult.

It has nothing to do with that.
Many of the schools particularly on the western end are almost exclusively UMC.

Prince William County has a stronger teachers union than Fairfax County.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is getting 3% increase but no step.

Looked at vacancy list...many more added this week.

Teachers have until the last day of the school year to announce if they aren’t coming back without “breaking contract”. A lot more vacancies are on the way.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is getting 3% increase but no step.

Looked at vacancy list...many more added this week.

Teachers have until the last day of the school year to announce if they aren’t coming back without “breaking contract”. A lot more vacancies are on the way.

Yup!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.

SHUT up!

PP was right. You are boring and predictable.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread gets started every year around budget time when some teachers' organization thinks teachers should have gotten a higher raise. We get it - we'd love bigger raises in our jobs, too - but it is SO SO predictable.

SHUT up!

PP was right. You are boring and predictable.

Except several teachers have already posted that departures are most often about job dissatisfaction, NOT money.

You don’t get to decide the reasons why teachers leave. We get to do that, as the departing teachers. You have no clue.

For me, it’s 100% work/life balance issues. Frankly, I’m sick of the expectation that nights and weekends belong to my job. I’d like to know what a Saturday feels like. Right now, Saturdays are pajama days and I sit on my couch with 8-10 hours of work.

Fix THAT. Not my pay.

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Agree with the person above me

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I don’t think people understand how much outside work has to be done outside of school, especially for elementary and special educators. I show up 30 minutes before school, leave an hour after school is over, and work on Sunday evenings. There are still things that I miss or don’t get done after spending all of this time. It is even worse for new teachers who haven’t taught the content and have nothing to go from. This is why the turnover rate is so high, new teachers run themselves into the ground trying to keep up and burnout fast.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think people understand how much outside work has to be done outside of school, especially for elementary and special educators. I show up 30 minutes before school, leave an hour after school is over, and work on Sunday evenings. There are still things that I miss or don’t get done after spending all of this time. It is even worse for new teachers who haven’t taught the content and have nothing to go from. This is why the turnover rate is so high, new teachers run themselves into the ground trying to keep up and burnout fast.

I’ll add that high school teachers have it hard, too. We have 130-150 students and all the grading that goes along with them. We also may teach 3 different classes, so that’s a lot of planning. We often get very little time at work to plan or grade.

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I’d love to see the teachers who love teaching—and are good at it—but hate the nonsense throw in together and start up alternatives.
Something like Fairfax Collegiate but offered September-mid June.
No unnecessary administration or paperwork, steady schedules that make sense, no expectation or need to tolerate disrespect.

It’s the future of effective education.