Which first lady is professionally most accomplished

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Betty Ford

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Anonymous wrote:Melania speaks like 5 languages which is impressive but normal for a Central European

According to...Trump, who also claims she has a bunch of university degrees and was a supermodel.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the infamous “baking cookies” and “Tammy Wynette” remark. Bill looks like he instantly regrets this and knows it might cost him the election

https://youtu.be/8EGranwN_uk?si=yHmA8g_K3Yr7ABZ5

I don't understand why she felt the need to insult Tammy Wynette for no reason. Especially when she (Hillary) in fact did stand by her man then, and continued to do so later.

That is a good point. Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette helped bring a woman's perspective to the male-dominated country music field that helped other women find representation in the genre.
At the beginning of her career, no one wanted to hire Tammy to sing because the country music industry was dominated by men.

When asked during a 60 Minutes interview about her marriage to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton (who had been accused of infidelity), Hillary Clinton said, "I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette". The end of this quotation has also appeared as "some little woman, standing by my man and baking cookies, like Tammy Wynette." However, the reference to cookie-baking more likely comes from an unrelated remark by Hillary Clinton: "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession, which I entered before my husband was in public life.” The remark received widespread media and press attention.

Wynette wrote to Clinton, saying, "With all that is in me, I resent your caustic remark. I believe you have offended every true country-music fan and every person who has made it on their own with no one to take them to the White House." Hillary then remarked to the press that she had no intention of speaking negatively about Wynette and that she enjoyed Wynette's music. She then personally called Wynette and apologized to her.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Wynette

Tammy was correct; HRC would not have had her illustrious career without Bill taking her to the WH.

If you know anything about their story, then you would know that HC took Bill to the WH.

Enlighten us.

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Anonymous wrote:Melania speaks like 5 languages which is impressive but normal for a Central European

According to...Trump, who also claims she has a bunch of university degrees and was a supermodel.

She’s beautiful.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the infamous “baking cookies” and “Tammy Wynette” remark. Bill looks like he instantly regrets this and knows it might cost him the election

https://youtu.be/8EGranwN_uk?si=yHmA8g_K3Yr7ABZ5

I don't understand why she felt the need to insult Tammy Wynette for no reason. Especially when she (Hillary) in fact did stand by her man then, and continued to do so later.

That is a good point. Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette helped bring a woman's perspective to the male-dominated country music field that helped other women find representation in the genre.
At the beginning of her career, no one wanted to hire Tammy to sing because the country music industry was dominated by men.

When asked during a 60 Minutes interview about her marriage to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton (who had been accused of infidelity), Hillary Clinton said, "I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette". The end of this quotation has also appeared as "some little woman, standing by my man and baking cookies, like Tammy Wynette." However, the reference to cookie-baking more likely comes from an unrelated remark by Hillary Clinton: "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession, which I entered before my husband was in public life.” The remark received widespread media and press attention.

Wynette wrote to Clinton, saying, "With all that is in me, I resent your caustic remark. I believe you have offended every true country-music fan and every person who has made it on their own with no one to take them to the White House." Hillary then remarked to the press that she had no intention of speaking negatively about Wynette and that she enjoyed Wynette's music. She then personally called Wynette and apologized to her.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Wynette

Tammy was correct; HRC would not have had her illustrious career without Bill taking her to the WH.

If you know anything about their story, then you would know that HC took Bill to the WH.

Enlighten us.

They can’t enlighten . If anything Hillary’s infamous “I’m not some little woman Standing by my man like Tammy Wynette” interview with the fake country twang was a PR disaster and almost cost Bill election. Bill had to kiss many babies and hit the stump even harder to make up for that remark along with the “sit home and bake cookies all day” comment

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Anonymous wrote:This is the infamous “baking cookies” and “Tammy Wynette” remark. Bill looks like he instantly regrets this and knows it might cost him the election

https://youtu.be/8EGranwN_uk?si=yHmA8g_K3Yr7ABZ5

I don't understand why she felt the need to insult Tammy Wynette for no reason. Especially when she (Hillary) in fact did stand by her man then, and continued to do so later.

That is a good point. Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette helped bring a woman's perspective to the male-dominated country music field that helped other women find representation in the genre.
At the beginning of her career, no one wanted to hire Tammy to sing because the country music industry was dominated by men.

When asked during a 60 Minutes interview about her marriage to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton (who had been accused of infidelity), Hillary Clinton said, "I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette". The end of this quotation has also appeared as "some little woman, standing by my man and baking cookies, like Tammy Wynette." However, the reference to cookie-baking more likely comes from an unrelated remark by Hillary Clinton: "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession, which I entered before my husband was in public life.” The remark received widespread media and press attention.

Wynette wrote to Clinton, saying, "With all that is in me, I resent your caustic remark. I believe you have offended every true country-music fan and every person who has made it on their own with no one to take them to the White House." Hillary then remarked to the press that she had no intention of speaking negatively about Wynette and that she enjoyed Wynette's music. She then personally called Wynette and apologized to her.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Wynette

Tammy was correct; HRC would not have had her illustrious career without Bill taking her to the WH.

If you know anything about their story, then you would know that HC took Bill to the WH.

Enlighten us.

They can’t enlighten . If anything Hillary’s infamous “I’m not some little woman Standing by my man like Tammy Wynette” interview with the fake country twang was a PR disaster and almost cost Bill election. Bill had to kiss many babies and hit the stump even harder to make up for that remark along with the “sit home and bake cookies all day” comment

Bill was the star, not HRC. Bill was the politician. HRC couldn’t campaign her way out of a wet paper bag. Remember when Bill was giving her advice during her presidential campaign and she refused to listen (what would he know? He had only won 2 presidential elections!) and he threw his phone off the roof?

HRC would be nothing without Bill. He was the mechanism for all her “accomplishments.”

She went after a working class trailblazing female country singer and trashes her for not being a professional or something, and baking cookies? Remind me again that HRC is for the regular American and a feminist, balderdash.

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Anonymous wrote:Melania speaks like 5 languages which is impressive but normal for a Central European

According to...Trump, who also claims she has a bunch of university degrees and was a supermodel.

She’s beautiful.

That's not the subject of the thread. Pay attention.

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Hillary Clinton, Michelle Obama, and Nancy Reagan all come to mind.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the infamous “baking cookies” and “Tammy Wynette” remark. Bill looks like he instantly regrets this and knows it might cost him the election

https://youtu.be/8EGranwN_uk?si=yHmA8g_K3Yr7ABZ5

I don't understand why she felt the need to insult Tammy Wynette for no reason. Especially when she (Hillary) in fact did stand by her man then, and continued to do so later.

That is a good point. Loretta Lynn and Tammy Wynette helped bring a woman's perspective to the male-dominated country music field that helped other women find representation in the genre.
At the beginning of her career, no one wanted to hire Tammy to sing because the country music industry was dominated by men.

When asked during a 60 Minutes interview about her marriage to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton (who had been accused of infidelity), Hillary Clinton said, "I'm not sitting here as some little woman standing by my man like Tammy Wynette". The end of this quotation has also appeared as "some little woman, standing by my man and baking cookies, like Tammy Wynette." However, the reference to cookie-baking more likely comes from an unrelated remark by Hillary Clinton: "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession, which I entered before my husband was in public life.” The remark received widespread media and press attention.

Wynette wrote to Clinton, saying, "With all that is in me, I resent your caustic remark. I believe you have offended every true country-music fan and every person who has made it on their own with no one to take them to the White House." Hillary then remarked to the press that she had no intention of speaking negatively about Wynette and that she enjoyed Wynette's music. She then personally called Wynette and apologized to her.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Wynette

Tammy was correct; HRC would not have had her illustrious career without Bill taking her to the WH.

If you know anything about their story, then you would know that HC took Bill to the WH.

Enlighten us.

They can’t enlighten . If anything Hillary’s infamous “I’m not some little woman Standing by my man like Tammy Wynette” interview with the fake country twang was a PR disaster and almost cost Bill election. Bill had to kiss many babies and hit the stump even harder to make up for that remark along with the “sit home and bake cookies all day” comment

Bill was the star, not HRC. Bill was the politician. HRC couldn’t campaign her way out of a wet paper bag. Remember when Bill was giving her advice during her presidential campaign and she refused to listen (what would he know? He had only won 2 presidential elections!) and he threw his phone off the roof?

HRC would be nothing without Bill. He was the mechanism for all her “accomplishments.”

She went after a working class trailblazing female country singer and trashes her for not being a professional or something, and baking cookies? Remind me again that HRC is for the regular American and a feminist, balderdash.

I voted for Hilary and would again if she ran. However, I never liked her personality and that's what gets most modern presidents elected. When she made that cookie comment, she turned off a lot of people and they remembered when she ran for President. Bill had charisma and Southern charm on top of political savvy and intelligence and that's why he won.

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Anonymous wrote:Betty Ford

Her willingness to be open about breast cancer and alcoholism led to significant changes in many Americans' attitudes, and of course the founding of the Betty Ford Center.

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Anonymous wrote:Betty Ford

Her willingness to be open about breast cancer and alcoholism led to significant changes in many Americans' attitudes, and of course the founding of the Betty Ford Center.

+1. A true legacy for a First Lady.

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Always Jacqueline Kennedy.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think HRC would have done what she’s done without Bill’s help and influence?

Many would argue that she gave up a lot of her goals and potential by supporting him when he was governor. People who knew them both in law school thought that she would have the brighter future. So I suspect she would have done even more without him.

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Anonymous wrote:Betty Ford

Her willingness to be open about breast cancer and alcoholism led to significant changes in many Americans' attitudes, and of course the founding of the Betty Ford Center.

True, but not a profession but inspirational.

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Anonymous wrote:Modern era: Hillary Clinton followed by Michelle Obama

I wasn’t impressed by MO. Although I think most of her efforts as FL were towards children. And it’s easy to talk about physical education, gardening, dieting, etc.

Hillary always sounds intelligent and insightful of politics and current events. Hillary chose poorly for campaign manager.

And don’t forget that the 2008 primary was stolen from her by the DNC to be the presidential candidate. She easily would have beaten McCain.

The WH intentionally made MO choose a lightweight topic because they knew Fox would go ballistic if she chose something political and they still went ballistic about school lunches . I appreciate that thanks to MO, added sugar is now a legal requirement on nutrition labels. It wasnt required before and I don’t think people notice but anyone with diabetics in the family truly appreciate that and it will especially help black and Latin communities and hopefully help reverse diabetes which is a huge expense on healthcare dollars

The Obamas are very private people in that we really know very little what they think or believe behind closed doors, and most of their supporters project onto the Obamas what they wish to see, which is why the ideals are often different from the reality. For all the progressive idolization of Obama at the onset of his tenure, it's hard to deny his greatest accomplishment was to make rich people richer while barely doing anything to help working Americans, which is one reason for the big Bernie movement in 2016. Are we surprised Michelle Obama has no political interests, prior to the WH she held a sinecure job as a hospital VP that had no real clout. In the WH she was traditional, more like another Laura Bush than an activist first lady even though her husband's administration had no shortage of accomplished female policy makers. Blaming it on Faux news is silly, it was because MO really had no interest in anything more. Now she is a wealthy woman living a private life of leisure. To call MO professionally accomplished is a bit mystifying. HRC for all her flaws is professionally accomplished.