are there really that many obese people out there???

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure why people are so angry about these drugs. We've created a culture of abundance of cheap unhealthy food, overwork, and told people they are lazy and disgusting if they don't keep their weight in check despite this environment conducive to weight gain. Then we are mad when something comes on the market that can help people shed weight, be healthier and look more physically acceptable to society? These drugs might seem costly but they are actually going to be great in the long run: less cardiovascular disease, less diabetes, fewer knee replacements (already happening). This is a good thing for society and people individually, considering this country made it very clear food and work culture are not going to get better any time soon.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why people are so angry about these drugs. We've created a culture of abundance of cheap unhealthy food, overwork, and told people they are lazy and disgusting if they don't keep their weight in check despite this environment conducive to weight gain. Then we are mad when something comes on the market that can help people shed weight, be healthier and look more physically acceptable to society? These drugs might seem costly but they are actually going to be great in the long run: less cardiovascular disease, less diabetes, fewer knee replacements (already happening). This is a good thing for society and people individually, considering this country made it very clear food and work culture are not going to get better any time soon.

And most people don’t magically lose weight on these drugs. They still diet and exercise, the drugs just make the effort pay off and make it a little more tolerable to be in a calorie deficit.

[Anonymous]

It is because you don't know what obese really is. I hover on the line of obese/not obese for my weight (168-171 depending on the day at 5'3).

Anyone who I complain or stress about this to is absolutely shocked that I am considered obese. I am very in shape, wear a size medium/8 etc. I look like a very normal person. I also feel like my body is honestly just not the same as some other people because I recently gained a few pounds and have been pretty militant about my routine to get back under that obese line and I am like, completely depleted. I'm exhausted, I'm starving...honestly I'm struggling. And I just literally don't know what I would have to do to get myself to like 'ideal' or 'normal'. I think I would end up in the hospital! And this is not just me like my husband is vocally concerned about the fact that I'm under eating and over exercising and clearly mentally foggier/angrier etc.

Anyway, just saying that you can be labeled obese and be a person that virtually no one would pass on the street and even say are fat. Although I'm certainly not a petite skinny minny and never will be, just come from the line of potato farmers from Ireland who hold onto their weight.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

Sure, but that cuts into the narrative we have swirling all around us that obesity just happens and is not at all a function of individual choice or more specifically choices focusing on health as a priority.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

Sure, but that cuts into the narrative we have swirling all around us that obesity just happens and is not at all a function of individual choice or more specifically choices focusing on health as a priority.

I'm not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me but when you have a society wide problem of obesity, you need policy changes to fix it. An over emphasis on individual choices simply slows down the necessary policy changes and compounds the problem as younger people get sucked into the same traps that have already ensnared the adults.

[Anonymous]

I just came from shopping at target. Everything in the store is geared towards overweight, the clothes the mannequins are all large sized. This is really depressing because this is not normal and we are accepting this. Just look at photos from the 60s and 70s and even 80s people were much thinner. Large size was the exception and not the roll. And don’t say it’s because of smoking, we have changed as the society we eat too much food, plain and simple!

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Anonymous wrote:Go to other states. I think in the DMV people are much more fit than the rest of the country. I don't want to pick on the midwest or south, but nearly everyone is obese. And obese is just 30lbs more than your ideal weight.

Exactly. One day at Disney and you’ll be left wondering what’s gone wrong in America.

100%. I would not even consider visiting a Disney park these days. Last time I was there I was so put off by all the obese families walking around constantly with food in their hands. Disgusting.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

But I think the "just quit" commercials helped. Showing the woman with half her jaw missing due to jaw cancer from smoking was powerful.

What we need are PSA commercials showing people with missing limbs from diabetes encouraging people to quit the bad food.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

But I think the "just quit" commercials helped. Showing the woman with half her jaw missing due to jaw cancer from smoking was powerful.

What we need are PSA commercials showing people with missing limbs from diabetes encouraging people to quit the bad food.

You know what worked more? Putting surgeon's general's warnings on the packages, banning them in most public spaces and taxing the ever loving crap out of them to make the habit somewhat cost prohibitive

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

But I think the "just quit" commercials helped. Showing the woman with half her jaw missing due to jaw cancer from smoking was powerful.

What we need are PSA commercials showing people with missing limbs from diabetes encouraging people to quit the bad food.

Every other tv commercial is for the latest gross burger or chicken wings or cookies. It would be quite hypocritical to have diabetes commercials juxtaposed with those.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s sad. These people are going to be on this medication for life. Many will never develop healthy exercise habits which are as important as weight.

+1 True. And, now that these drugs are approved for young people, the next generation will think this is normal.

You know what's not normal? Feeling hungry ALL THE TIME. Wegovy lessens that feeling and makes us NORMAL.

What did people do 30+years ago when the overweight and obese were outliers? This is unsustainable. As soon as you go off those drugs, the hunger comes back. Soon we're going to have a large chunk of the population who will say they NEED these drugs because it's the ONLY way.

Medicaid/Medicare cannot sustain this cost. Forget national healthcare. I don't want it if it means we have to pay for this.

Agreed. It just isn’t an economically viable solution to resolve all this with the huge amount of resources it takes to evaluate, invent, test, get through regulatory approval etc… in the end an economy is humans doing things and exchanging that via whatever medium for other humans doing other things.

If the default is to have a bail out, the overall results are not going to be particularly optimal. The solution is to work towards a population that doesn’t manage to get itself into this obesity predicament in the first instance.

Ok. Ban the junk food. Done.

But we’re not going to do that are we?

How about just don't buy it?

You don't solve societal problems by relying on individual choice. See smoking.

But I think the "just quit" commercials helped. Showing the woman with half her jaw missing due to jaw cancer from smoking was powerful.

What we need are PSA commercials showing people with missing limbs from diabetes encouraging people to quit the bad food.

You know what worked more? Putting surgeon's general's warnings on the packages, banning them in most public spaces and taxing the ever loving crap out of them to make the habit somewhat cost prohibitive

+1 but you'll have to fight the sugar lobbyists

[Anonymous]

^ ppl on SNAP or other Gov't programs should not be able to purchase cookies, soda, chips, etc

And yes, heavily tax the bad stuff.