s/o New understanding of Harry & Meghan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

I used to believe this before this poor handling with Kate's situation. The problem is that's been the instutiton for hundreds. Its never going to change. Kate had her fair share of complaints during their dating era as well but that was a pro of their long relationship

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

Can’t argue with this…

I can argue with this. I don't think it's okay to expect MM to be treated badly because Kate was treated badly. MM does needs to "pay her dues" to be treated respectfully. We are all entitled to respect and decency in our lives from Day 1, especially from family. And we are entitled to leave a situation that does not live up to those ideals.

^ doesn't need to "pay her dues"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

Yea but there’s more of an obvious payoff for Kate. William had all the money. Harry does not. So of course any rational person would bail rather than end up like Fergie and Andrew surviving off of loans from pedophiles

[Anonymous]

That is open minded of you, OP. Frequently, we don’t want to admit PR or an advertisement influenced us.

I suspected something similar just because I come from an unhealthy family dynamic with triangulation and the golden child-bad child dynamic. I wondered if the BRF had a similar dynamic.

They’ll destroy themselves, I think. Or William will anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duh. Harry’s life was already tough, and all the racist bs that MM went through was unfair. The tabloids, the BRF, and the public were awful to her.

Agree!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

The British press wasn't kind to Kate before they got engaged, but after that they fawned over her constantly. Meghan *never* got any of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

Can’t argue with this…

I can argue with this. I don't think it's okay to expect MM to be treated badly because Kate was treated badly. MM does needs to "pay her dues" to be treated respectfully. We are all entitled to respect and decency in our lives from Day 1, especially from family. And we are entitled to leave a situation that does not live up to those ideals.

Well let’s be real. Meghan knew full-well what she was getting into. I don’t blame them for leaving. I just think the “oh I wasn’t aware!” was such a phony act. Please.

I do like Meghan though, and i really like Kate. Wishing her well during Kate mania!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

Can’t argue with this…

I can argue with this. I don't think it's okay to expect MM to be treated badly because Kate was treated badly. MM does needs to "pay her dues" to be treated respectfully. We are all entitled to respect and decency in our lives from Day 1, especially from family. And we are entitled to leave a situation that does not live up to those ideals.

Especially since Kate did not face racism. And if you think the British public and press did not react to the color of Meghan’s skin, you’re either a fool or a racist yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Duh. Harry’s life was already tough, and all the racist bs that MM went through was unfair. The tabloids, the BRF, and the public were awful to her.

Agree!

Disagree. Race was not the factor. Tabloids are bottom feeding scum, they find anyone's weak point and push. They were equally horrible to Diana, sara Ferguson, Camilla, and kate - all white.

[Anonymous]

People liked Megan just fine until her father and sister started being a holes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Duh. Harry’s life was already tough, and all the racist bs that MM went through was unfair. The tabloids, the BRF, and the public were awful to her.

Agree!

Disagree. Race was not the factor. Tabloids are bottom feeding scum, they find anyone's weak point and push. They were equally horrible to Diana, sara Ferguson, Camilla, and kate - all white.

NP Or maybe you just don’t get it. “Horrible” plus racism really is different. And if you’re aware of what was in the tabloids and said on the talk shows and don’t see the racism then you really don’t — and perhaps can’t — get it. Racism is not just about pushing an individual’s “weak point”.

[Anonymous]

The only thing that irks me M and H is that they seem to consider themselves US royalty, when we don’t really have royalty here. I mean, Taylor Swift is the closest thing we have, lol. They have escaped that life, but stilluse their titles and expect a level of reverence and gravitas around that when Americans generally don’t give a F (although if they remained in the BRF, we likely would (as evidenced by our pure obsession with Kate right now). They are just garden variety celebs here, which I think continues to startle them a bit (like when they did not get front row seats at a recent film screening). Coming here and still using their royal logos/letterhead…GMAFB.

But yes, perhaps this current KP circus gives their prior complaints some more credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only thing that irks me M and H is that they seem to consider themselves US royalty, when we don’t really have royalty here. I mean, Taylor Swift is the closest thing we have, lol. They have escaped that life, but stilluse their titles and expect a level of reverence and gravitas around that when Americans generally don’t give a F (although if they remained in the BRF, we likely would (as evidenced by our pure obsession with Kate right now). They are just garden variety celebs here, which I think continues to startle them a bit (like when they did not get front row seats at a recent film screening). Coming here and still using their royal logos/letterhead…GMAFB.

But yes, perhaps this current KP circus gives their prior complaints some more credibility.

Same, and I have actually always been a pretty big MM fan. I always thought that her big mistake was thinking she could act American while playing the part of a British Royal, but now they're acting like British Royals in America which is just as much of a mistake. I mean, it has fewer consequences since I don't think Americans are as awful about race but still. Only weirdos find their "titles" impressive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The difference is that Kate has paid her dues with more than ten years of flawless service while Meghan did nothing but complain and showboat for the instant she set foot in the Brad and bailed less than two years after joining then cashed in on her association with a family and institution she claimed to despise.

Can’t argue with this…

I can argue with this. I don't think it's okay to expect MM to be treated badly because Kate was treated badly. MM does needs to "pay her dues" to be treated respectfully. We are all entitled to respect and decency in our lives from Day 1, especially from family. And we are entitled to leave a situation that does not live up to those ideals.

Well let’s be real. Meghan knew full-well what she was getting into. I don’t blame them for leaving. I just think the “oh I wasn’t aware!” was such a phony act. Please.

I do like Meghan though, and i really like Kate. Wishing her well during Kate mania!

One thing that I, as a white person, found interesting about Meghan is that clip where she said she never having got the race talk as a child. I guess most Black children get a talk from their parents about how bad things will be for them, so they are prepared them for the inevitable. It makes sense to me that she was surprised that people in England made such a big deal about her race and were hostile toward her because of it. I also think that sometimes (and I'm sorry if I'm getting this wrong!) people of color experience a lot of racism that is really subtle; comments that are intended to be racist but leave just enough plausible deniability to keep them from getting in trouble. So POC get sensitized to this and might see a racist act when there wasn't one, because it legitimately was racist in another context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think there are multiple sides. I think Harry is a nice guy, intends to be a good person, rather naive, damaged childhood, was living a weird life where he wasn’t really allowed to have a purpose as the “spare” falls in love with Meghan who I think has some delusions of grandeur, although also trying to be a nice person and is one of those people that kind of invite drama. She could have seen the sh$tshow that is the BRF from a mile away but she proceeded anyway. And I have no doubt there was racism and all that and they are in a difficult spot with needing all the expensive security but I also think they think they are entitled to a very privilege life. It’s all basically exhibit A why the monarchy shouldn’t exist. It really didn’t do Harry any favors.

I think this is one of the best and most reasonable takes I’ve seen on here. But I would add that Meghan wouldn’t be the first person not to realize the extent of dysfunction in her spouse’s family until after they were married and let it all hang out. She didn’t have a lot of up close and personal experience with their backbiting staffs, etc until she was officially part of them.