AOS AET admissions decisions this week?

[Anonymous]

It looks like they are selecting the candidates by both merit and lottery like picking up the few kids who got very high scores and using lottery for all other kids who got the cutoff

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like they are selecting the candidates by both merit and lottery like picking up the few kids who got very high scores and using lottery for all other kids who got the cutoff

That's the concern. On what basis are they limiting the very high merit kids to include the "other kids" using lottery? student ethnicity? are the very high merit kids excluded from the lottery portion of the selection? What if the lottery doesnt produce the diversity they are looking for? do they keep redrawing the lottery until the predetermined diversity mix is produced?

[Anonymous]

I’m assuming Maybe high scores in the STEM exam regrading the top kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop spreading rumors about a lottery.

Admission is based on a few things, 2.5 quantitative, 1.5 qualitative.

Quant:
Middle school grades.
SOL and VGA-type assessments.
.5 = the Q&A portion of the entrance exam.

Qualitative:
Free text recommendations from current Math and Science teachers.
.5 = the essay your kid wrote.

Top 20% of the # of kids across the county get first choice. So about 25 per AET and AOS. The n a percentage of each middle school gets admitted qualified applicants. Brambleton, you’re SOL as 60% of the 8th grade applies. Smarts Mill? 5% apply, 3% get in.

For example, an admitted AET student this cycle: Nothing lower than an A all of middle school, 600 Algebra SOL, 570 English SOL.

Waitlist is the next 5-ish percent per middle school. It’s not a Loudoun-wide process. This was the change two years ago so it would be a more equitable process across the county rather than 50% of kids coming from Brambleton.

So Ironic... Posts starts with "do not spread rumors " but it does nothing but post incorrect information/ rumours Can you provide a proof or any online resource for information in that post ?

1) There are no teacher recommendations accepted.
2) .05 percent for exam is so far away from reality.


Yeah, I have two kids that go there and if you ask they’ll tell you their criteria.

Your child’s math and science teachers were given free form text fields for applicants. Go ask them.

And it’s not .05 percent for the exam, it’s the weighting of the qualitative field with standard testing and grades.

You sound big mad about dumping $$$ into kumon or Kaplan and not getting a bid.

😊😊 You are too fast to jump to conclusions .

I have 2 kids who are in AOL( initially waitlisted) Last year , DD had perfect SOL score -as per your criteria - she should have been admitted but waitlisted.

My 3rd one just admitted this year had sol score over 500 but not perfect score , so please save your rhetoric about “ mad” , “dumping $$$$ “.

I know for fact that there is a lottery pool for kids who score more than a cutoff mark.

Just proving my point here…?

There is no lottery. 0 truth.

I know it makes you feel better that the admission is random and a lottery exists (which would be a horrible way to admit to a magnet school, btw) but the best are initially given bids first. Then waitlist, then whatever else.

There definitely is a lottery. In my childs school a student who scored 600 on reading SOL and 500+ on algebra 1 SOL (student takes alg 2/trig after taking geometry in the summer), outstanding student in the gifted program and all A's, was not offered any admission to either AET/AOS. Probably did not recieve qualifying marks on the test to be entered in the lottery, and was therefore denied

The kid probably had the social skill of a snail and their teachers said “smart, but not a STEM leader”.

500+ doesn’t cut it when there are enough kids with perfect 600s.

[Anonymous]

Question -- If a kid is waitlisted in both - AOS and AET. And then offered AET eventually, is that kid off the waitlist for AOS if he/she accepts AET? What if they wanted AOS as a preference between the two.

[Anonymous]

Both are separate schools. So they will exist in waitlist for AOS even if they got accepted to AET first. They don’t take kid preference into consideration. They just assign it to next highest ranker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both are separate schools. So they will exist in waitlist for AOS even if they got accepted to AET first. They don’t take kid preference into consideration. They just assign it to next highest ranker

This is correct. Both AOS and AET are two independent applications. However, within AET the applicant gets to mention a first and second preference from the three specializations - Engineering, IT, & Entrepreneurship. Even so, all this effectively does is eliminate which of the three specializations the applicant does not want to be considered for, as either preferences can have a spot open up for the applicant to get off the waitlist.

[Anonymous]

When will the second wave start? . My DS is also waitlisted in both AET and AOS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When will the second wave start? . My DS is also waitlisted in both AET and AOS

Anticipate a small wave after this initial acceptance deadline next week, where a few applicants who received both AET and AOS offers have to accept one and release the other back into the pool. The next significant wave will occur when TJ offer decisions come out in April, as the TJ acceptances will cause a good chunk of AOS/AET acceptances to be released back into the pool. Other than that, there won't be any more waves, just a tiny ripple here and there due to a change of mind.

[Anonymous]

Good info

[Anonymous]

Generally speaking if a child is waitlisted for both AOS and AET -- does it mean they are higher in the pecking order than someone who is just waitlisted for one of the two?(AOS or AET)?

This process is fascinating - to say the least!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Generally speaking if a child is waitlisted for both AOS and AET -- does it mean they are higher in the pecking order than someone who is just waitlisted for one of the two?(AOS or AET)?

This process is fascinating - to say the least!

No way to tell, as each of those waiting lists are managed rather independently all the way. Of course, being put on waitlist is better than rejection.

This process is being brought to you by 21st Century Equity Admissions. Enjoy!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When will the second wave start? . My DS is also waitlisted in both AET and AOS

Anticipate a small wave after this initial acceptance deadline next week, where a few applicants who received both AET and AOS offers have to accept one and release the other back into the pool. The next significant wave will occur when TJ offer decisions come out in April, as the TJ acceptances will cause a good chunk of AOS/AET acceptances to be released back into the pool. Other than that, there won't be any more waves, just a tiny ripple here and there due to a change of mind.

Initial deadline ends today March 21st. You should see few folks from first wave of waitlist being offerred admission starting this evening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stop spreading rumors about a lottery.

Admission is based on a few things, 2.5 quantitative, 1.5 qualitative.

Quant:
Middle school grades.
SOL and VGA-type assessments.
.5 = the Q&A portion of the entrance exam.

Qualitative:
Free text recommendations from current Math and Science teachers.
.5 = the essay your kid wrote.

Top 20% of the # of kids across the county get first choice. So about 25 per AET and AOS. The n a percentage of each middle school gets admitted qualified applicants. Brambleton, you’re SOL as 60% of the 8th grade applies. Smarts Mill? 5% apply, 3% get in.

For example, an admitted AET student this cycle: Nothing lower than an A all of middle school, 600 Algebra SOL, 570 English SOL.

Waitlist is the next 5-ish percent per middle school. It’s not a Loudoun-wide process. This was the change two years ago so it would be a more equitable process across the county rather than 50% of kids coming from Brambleton.

hello mate, equity volunteer here too. Smarts Mill has a chronic absenteeism problem and less than half of the class is proficient in basic grade 8th math. We dont need to worry about Brambleton and their AET/AOS admission chances. Lets focus of addressing Smarts Mills issues with teaching basic math.

… you misunderstand.

A higher % of qualified applicants from the Smarts pool of applicants will get in.

If 10 qualified kids from Smarts apply, 5 might get in.

If 100 qualified kids from Brambleton apply, 5 might get in.

You don’t get extra per middle school just because a lot applied or because the overall proficiency is higher. This is black and white in public documents.

5 may be far fetched, but I hope at least one Smarts Mill kids accepts their offer. Back to our burning issue, have your heard anything about how they plan to address the chronic absentee issue?

Ask the school, lazy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question -- If a kid is waitlisted in both - AOS and AET. And then offered AET eventually, is that kid off the waitlist for AOS if he/she accepts AET? What if they wanted AOS as a preference between the two.

I assumed they will remain until before the school starts. I've seen kids showing off rejection emails they received from both AOS and AET on the day of orientation in early August.