Anti-diversity trends.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.


I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?


Race absolutely SHOULD be a factor in admissions decisions to ensure a diverse cohort, which is better for learning. Most people value diversity.


But it doesn’t at private schools where there is but one color- green.
Anonymous
Not only are parents and students afraid to speak up, but faculty and administrators are also.

When I, as a 20 year veteran, cannot say something that questions any part of the the DEI coordinator's edicts, that is a problem.

It's already a struggle for teachers to want to stay in the profession given the ever escalating demands on us. Not because we aren't excited for the wonderfully improved diversity of our communities. Not because we don't welcome the rethinking of our curriculum.

But because every. single. conversation. with a colleague or parent begins and ends with the DEI lens and I cannot get my job done. It is exhausting. For god's sake, can we please do some math?
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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?


Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.


Where else?


Another school in the area without affinity groups.


Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.


Things that never happened.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not only are parents and students afraid to speak up, but faculty and administrators are also.

When I, as a 20 year veteran, cannot say something that questions any part of the the DEI coordinator's edicts, that is a problem.

It's already a struggle for teachers to want to stay in the profession given the ever escalating demands on us. Not because we aren't excited for the wonderfully improved diversity of our communities. Not because we don't welcome the rethinking of our curriculum.

But because every. single. conversation. with a colleague or parent begins and ends with the DEI lens and I cannot get my job done. It is exhausting. For god's sake, can we please do some math?



This makes no sense. Give an example.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not only are parents and students afraid to speak up, but faculty and administrators are also.

When I, as a 20 year veteran, cannot say something that questions any part of the the DEI coordinator's edicts, that is a problem.

It's already a struggle for teachers to want to stay in the profession given the ever escalating demands on us. Not because we aren't excited for the wonderfully improved diversity of our communities. Not because we don't welcome the rethinking of our curriculum.

But because every. single. conversation. with a colleague or parent begins and ends with the DEI lens and I cannot get my job done. It is exhausting. For god's sake, can we please do some math?
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Curious if this is a school in the DC area?
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The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.



MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.


No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.


You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.


We live in a segregated society.

Which school does your DC attend?


If you mean segregated by income, YES there is segregation. People are not segregated by race anymore.


Yes they are! Do you live in the dc are? Look around! It’s not strict segregation but there are areas here where you hardly ever see a person of color, and other areas where you hardly ever see a white face. This is one of the most segregated places I’ve ever lived.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“Laurie piped up again. 'At State, everybody calls diversity dispersity. What happens is, everybody has their own clubs, their own signs, their own sections where they all sit in the dining hall--all the African Americans are over there? . . . and all the Asians sit over't these other tables? -- except for the Koreans? -- because they don't get along with the Japanese so they sit way over there? Everybody's dispersed into their own little groups -- and everybody's told to distrust everybody else? Everybody's told that everybody else is trying to screw them over--oops!' -- Laurie pulled a face and put her fingertips over her lips -- 'I'm sorry!' She rolled eyes and smiled. 'Anyway, the idea is, every other group is like prejudiced against your group, and no matter what they say, they're only out to take advantage of you, and you should have nothing to do with them -- unless your white, in which case all the others are not prejudiced against you, they're like totally right, because you really are a racist and everything, even if you don't know it? Everybody ends up dispersed into their own like turtle shells, suspicious of everybody else and being careful not to fraternize with them. Is it like that at Dupont?”

― Tom Wolfe, I am Charlotte Simmons


lol
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The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.



MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.


No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.


You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.


We live in a segregated society.

Which school does your DC attend?


If you mean segregated by income, YES there is segregation. People are not segregated by race anymore.


Yes they are! Do you live in the dc are? Look around! It’s not strict segregation but there are areas here where you hardly ever see a person of color, and other areas where you hardly ever see a white face. This is one of the most segregated places I’ve ever lived.


People segregate by income. Look at home prices in various neighborhoods. Next, low income people value relationships with neighbors so they gravitate towards same race neighborhoods. There is somewhat a race segregation between low income black and low income white neighborhoods, or low income ethnicities. But you don't see racial/ethnicity based segregation among rich neighborhoods.

Main source of segregation is income.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.


I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?


Agreed. I'm Hispanic.


I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.


So ironic that Washington DC, aka Chocolate City, has the largest % and concentration of high income, college-educated African Americans, alongside an equally large % and concentration of uneducated, absentee fathers, on welfare, failing k-12, riddled with crime African Americans.
DEI doesn't help the latter, the real elephant in the room, it only helps the former - who arguably don't need help and who try not to be ID'd as the former group yet it's 50/50.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?


Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.


Where else?


Another school in the area without affinity groups.


Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.


Which school? Dare ya.




Not sure I want to share, but it's a local JK-12 private in DMV often discussed here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?


Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.


Where else?


Another school in the area without affinity groups.


Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.


I don't believe this at all. But people can say and make up whatever on an anonymous forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here:

I will play it safe and go with the traditional liberal schools. I can't deal with Moms for Liberty Light or the eventual racial incident.

We applied to some good schools. Hopefully, something will come through.



Didn't Moms for Liberty Light mainly focus on K-8 books with pornographic content? Cant the publishers and editors take those segments out and then be fine?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?


Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.


Where else?


Another school in the area without affinity groups.


Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.


Things that never happened.



Not happening. More the merrier - allies, biracial, Caribbean African, AA, Ghanan, Moroccan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
The admissions committee can look at teacher rec, kids assessment, parent interviews (how is the family's approach to their child's education). When the admissions committee has enough data for admitting (or not admitting) my child, why do they need to factor in our race? You tell me.


The gaslighting is unreal.

Because folks have biases, they want to ensure that they are considering other aspects that don't apply to most of their other applicants. Race is also one of the most significant issues in America. It determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.

I don't want to be around segregationists. It's wild that they complain about DEI being forced on them, but it's them doing the most disruption, trying to drag us back into the 50s.



MONEY determines where people choose to live, work, politics, and even where they attend school.


No always. We could afford to move and a bigger house would be great but we like the neighborhood and it convient.


You are able to afford where you are. Your MONEY determines that. That is great, I don't mean this in a negative way. It's not your race/ethnicity that enables you to live there. I also mean this in a positive way. We no longer live in a segregated society, thankfully.


We live in a segregated society.

Which school does your DC attend?


If you mean segregated by income, YES there is segregation. People are not segregated by race anymore.


Yes they are! Do you live in the dc are? Look around! It’s not strict segregation but there are areas here where you hardly ever see a person of color, and other areas where you hardly ever see a white face. This is one of the most segregated places I’ve ever lived.


People segregate by income. Look at home prices in various neighborhoods. Next, low income people value relationships with neighbors so they gravitate towards same race neighborhoods. There is somewhat a race segregation between low income black and low income white neighborhoods, or low income ethnicities. But you don't see racial/ethnicity based segregation among rich neighborhoods.

Main source of segregation is income.


Exactly, and I demand to live in Kensington London. Right now.
To whom do I complain to?
Anonymous




Didn't Moms for Liberty Light mainly focus on K-8 books with pornographic content? Cant the publishers and editors take those segments out and then be fine?

I am not familiar with Moms of Liberty but my kids go to a private K-12 and a few years back in middle school I was horrified with some of the required reading. One book after another with dark or sexually explicit topics - For example, the main character who always happens to be a POC and was physically/sexually abused by a parent or other trusted adult and then runs away and commits suicide. Another where the main character (also a POC) wants to be transgender and afraid to tell Dad and 300 pages later commits suicide. Then they had to read Ibram X Kinde. It was just way too much for these little 12 year olds, especially under the backdrop of the pandemic when kids were struggling with depression.
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