Anti-diversity trends.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?

Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.

Where else?

Another school in the area without affinity groups.

Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.

Things that never happened.

Not happening. More the merrier - allies, biracial, Caribbean African, AA, Ghanan, Moroccan.

Look, I agree the more the merrier. But the head of DEI makes those decisions and she's told highs school students who were biracial they couldn't join certain clubs because they weren't X enough. She has a horrible reputation among the students and she's a POC herself so I don't get it. It's a real shame.

[Anonymous]

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Didn't Moms for Liberty Light mainly focus on K-8 books with pornographic content? Cant the publishers and editors take those segments out and then be fine?

I am not familiar with Moms of Liberty but my kids go to a private K-12 and a few years back in middle school I was horrified with some of the required reading. One book after another with dark or sexually explicit topics - For example, the main character who always happens to be a POC and was physically/sexually abused by a parent or other trusted adult and then runs away and commits suicide. Another where the main character (also a POC) wants to be transgender and afraid to tell Dad and 300 pages later commits suicide. Then they had to read Ibram X Kinde. It was just way too much for these little 12 year olds, especially under the backdrop of the pandemic when kids were struggling with depression.

Wow, I am sorry for your child. But I am especially sorry for the POC kids who get to read these stuff. Do these empower the kids in general, in any way? Or, do they just make the kids angry (at themselves or each other) and depressed?

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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?

Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.

Where else?

Another school in the area without affinity groups.

Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.

Things that never happened.

Not happening. More the merrier - allies, biracial, Caribbean African, AA, Ghanan, Moroccan.

Look, I agree the more the merrier. But the head of DEI makes those decisions and she's told highs school students who were biracial they couldn't join certain clubs because they weren't X enough. She has a horrible reputation among the students and she's a POC herself so I don't get it. It's a real shame.

Name the school or you are lying.

[Anonymous]

The point is, DEI doesn't work in the way it was originally intended. It doesn't promote diversity. It is racism based on skin color.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

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Which school?

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

So, you want DEI eliminated because you don't feel represented? And what do you consider DEI to be?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.



Agreed. I'm Hispanic.

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

Have you shared this with your school? Have you, or your counterparts, contributed your thoughts to the programs or planning? Or are you only comfortable sharing on an anonymous forum that has no ties with your school where your sentiment will die once the thread falls beyond the single digit pages of DCUM? People always want to complain, but never voice how they are working towards making a change. You highlight a significant point and you are spending your time at every DEI program. Yet why would you not want to make sure your school also acknowledges and represents all? Also, it's "Blacks."

I am not that poster. I would like to add my 2 cents. If I was that person, I would also hesitate to contribute my thoughts. Not because I have doubts about my thoughts, but because it would be similar to saying "the king is naked". Everyone knows "the king is naked", but people are all playing a game of DEI. Because the political climate is forcing this game. If I tell my thoughts, the first thing that would happen is people will question whether I am "racist". As a non-white, I might still be blamed for being white supremacist, or racist. School ground is risky for such bravery from a family. No family would want that kind of attention, and cannot risk being blamed racist. So we all shut up and act like the king is not naked and has the best clothes on. It is the political climate that is leading to this nonsense.

I am mostly upset for the POC people, since they are the ones who will actually suffer from the fall out of this policy. This is why as a non-white I want admissions to be merit based as a top factor. Whites eventually suffered from white favoritism. POC might suffer from similar favoritism. I want peace to come. So merit based admissions is really the solution to this.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.



Agreed. I'm Hispanic.

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

Have you shared this with your school? Have you, or your counterparts, contributed your thoughts to the programs or planning? Or are you only comfortable sharing on an anonymous forum that has no ties with your school where your sentiment will die once the thread falls beyond the single digit pages of DCUM? People always want to complain, but never voice how they are working towards making a change. You highlight a significant point and you are spending your time at every DEI program. Yet why would you not want to make sure your school also acknowledges and represents all? Also, it's "Blacks."

I am not that poster. I would like to add my 2 cents. If I was that person, I would also hesitate to contribute my thoughts. Not because I have doubts about my thoughts, but because it would be similar to saying "the king is naked". Everyone knows "the king is naked", but people are all playing a game of DEI. Because the political climate is forcing this game. If I tell my thoughts, the first thing that would happen is people will question whether I am "racist". As a non-white, I might still be blamed for being white supremacist, or racist. School ground is risky for such bravery from a family. No family would want that kind of attention, and cannot risk being blamed racist. So we all shut up and act like the king is not naked and has the best clothes on. It is the political climate that is leading to this nonsense.

I am mostly upset for the POC people, since they are the ones who will actually suffer from the fall out of this policy. This is why as a non-white I want admissions to be merit based as a top factor. Whites eventually suffered from white favoritism. POC might suffer from similar favoritism. I want peace to come. So merit based admissions is really the solution to this.

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.



Agreed. I'm Hispanic.

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

Have you shared this with your school? Have you, or your counterparts, contributed your thoughts to the programs or planning? Or are you only comfortable sharing on an anonymous forum that has no ties with your school where your sentiment will die once the thread falls beyond the single digit pages of DCUM? People always want to complain, but never voice how they are working towards making a change. You highlight a significant point and you are spending your time at every DEI program. Yet why would you not want to make sure your school also acknowledges and represents all? Also, it's "Blacks."

I am not that poster. I would like to add my 2 cents. If I was that person, I would also hesitate to contribute my thoughts. Not because I have doubts about my thoughts, but because it would be similar to saying "the king is naked". Everyone knows "the king is naked", but people are all playing a game of DEI. Because the political climate is forcing this game. If I tell my thoughts, the first thing that would happen is people will question whether I am "racist". As a non-white, I might still be blamed for being white supremacist, or racist. School ground is risky for such bravery from a family. No family would want that kind of attention, and cannot risk being blamed racist. So we all shut up and act like the king is not naked and has the best clothes on. It is the political climate that is leading to this nonsense.

I am mostly upset for the POC people, since they are the ones who will actually suffer from the fall out of this policy. This is why as a non-white I want admissions to be merit based as a top factor. Whites eventually suffered from white favoritism. POC might suffer from similar favoritism. I want peace to come. So merit based admissions is really the solution to this.

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.

Things that didn't happen.

[Anonymous]

I believe it. Our school has affinity group pizza parties during lunch but for only Black students. In the beginning it was also attracting some white and Latino students who wanted to have pizza with their Black friends and then an explicit email went out outlining how the school defines persons of color. It was an actual list of skin colors. It was quite shocking. What a missed opportunity. If POC are having unique it seems like it we benefit everyone for white kids or other POC that are not Black to understand what those issues are so that they can be In the end the kids viewed it as the Black kids got a pizza party and nobody else did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe it. Our school has affinity group pizza parties during lunch but for only Black students. In the beginning it was also attracting some white and Latino students who wanted to have pizza with their Black friends and then an explicit email went out outlining how the school defines persons of color. It was an actual list of skin colors. It was quite shocking. What a missed opportunity. If POC are having unique it seems like it we benefit everyone for white kids or other POC that are not Black to understand what those issues are so that they can be In the end the kids viewed it as the Black kids got a pizza party and nobody else did.

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe it. Our school has affinity group pizza parties during lunch but for only Black students. In the beginning it was also attracting some white and Latino students who wanted to have pizza with their Black friends and then an explicit email went out outlining how the school defines persons of color. It was an actual list of skin colors. It was quite shocking. What a missed opportunity. If POC are having unique it seems like it we benefit everyone for white kids or other POC that are not Black to understand what those issues are so that they can be In the end the kids viewed it as the Black kids got a pizza party and nobody else did.

These people are the heirs of Jim Crow, South African apartheid, Rhodesia, etc. It was their grandparents and great-grandparents doing that shit. The color segregation impulse seems to be a heritable mental disorder.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid, given the current social climate, that I'm going to send my daughter to a school that is trying to become whiter.

I've noticed that many families have become openly against diversity efforts. We are POC, and I've had parents casually express how DEI initiatives hurt the quality of the surrounding private schools. Although I'm disappointed in the lack of thoughtfulness, I'm not surprised.

I already pulled applications from a couple of schools that have suddenly committed to a less diverse path since I started my application process. I'm now nervous I will be stuck at a school where my child's presence diminishes its quality.

I would appreciate insights on the current climate of your current institution. I will not take it personally. I don't have the energy to be a part of a diversity struggle. I'm sure other POC parents will also agree.

I don’t think this means they want to become whiter. It just means they don’t want race to be a factor in admissions? Why would you want that?

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.



Agreed. I'm Hispanic.

I agree too. I'm Asian, and the DEI program at our school is all about blacks. I attended all of the DEI programs at our school for the last three years, and the discussions were all centered on blacks. No care for Asians, Latinos, Native Americans, Arabs, etc. The school's DEI staff have always been black or white, no other ethnicities are represented. DEI does not mean diversity.

Have you shared this with your school? Have you, or your counterparts, contributed your thoughts to the programs or planning? Or are you only comfortable sharing on an anonymous forum that has no ties with your school where your sentiment will die once the thread falls beyond the single digit pages of DCUM? People always want to complain, but never voice how they are working towards making a change. You highlight a significant point and you are spending your time at every DEI program. Yet why would you not want to make sure your school also acknowledges and represents all? Also, it's "Blacks."

I am not that poster. I would like to add my 2 cents. If I was that person, I would also hesitate to contribute my thoughts. Not because I have doubts about my thoughts, but because it would be similar to saying "the king is naked". Everyone knows "the king is naked", but people are all playing a game of DEI. Because the political climate is forcing this game. If I tell my thoughts, the first thing that would happen is people will question whether I am "racist". As a non-white, I might still be blamed for being white supremacist, or racist. School ground is risky for such bravery from a family. No family would want that kind of attention, and cannot risk being blamed racist. So we all shut up and act like the king is not naked and has the best clothes on. It is the political climate that is leading to this nonsense.

I am mostly upset for the POC people, since they are the ones who will actually suffer from the fall out of this policy. This is why as a non-white I want admissions to be merit based as a top factor. Whites eventually suffered from white favoritism. POC might suffer from similar favoritism. I want peace to come. So merit based admissions is really the solution to this.

Responding to the previous poster asking why I didn't bring this up at the DEI meetings. I initially wanted to give the program a chance and learn more about it. In the second year, I did speak up. I was the only asian in that room and it was scary, even for an adult. I asked if DEI include other ethnicities such as Asians, Latinos, Arabs, there was no answer from anyone. Just blank stares. That was it, and they moved on to the next agenda item. DEI meetings have continued, but I've stopped attending. And yes, we are applying to other schools now.

Things that didn't happen.

Trolls like you inhibit helpful discussions by shutting down people who genuinely share their experiences to the discussions. I guess only your opinion matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?

Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.

Where else?

Another school in the area without affinity groups.

Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.

Things that never happened.

Not happening. More the merrier - allies, biracial, Caribbean African, AA, Ghanan, Moroccan.

Look, I agree the more the merrier. But the head of DEI makes those decisions and she's told highs school students who were biracial they couldn't join certain clubs because they weren't X enough. She has a horrible reputation among the students and she's a POC herself so I don't get it. It's a real shame.

Name the school or you are lying.

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I'm convinced this thread is full of trolls.

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DEI is discrimination. Changing the target class doesn’t make it right

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Anonymous wrote:Did you make a separate post about Holton?

Nope, but it's one of the schools I pulled.

Where else?

Another school in the area without affinity groups.

Our high school is so polarized they actually won't let bi-racial kids join affinity groups. So if you have one parent who is black, that's not enough for the black affinity group. If you have one parent who is hispanic, nope, you can't join the hispanic one either. God forbid you have one asian and one black parent, because you can't go to either.

Gate keeping. And the person who makes this decision is the DEI head for the school. Lovely.

Things that never happened.

Not happening. More the merrier - allies, biracial, Caribbean African, AA, Ghanan, Moroccan.

Look, I agree the more the merrier. But the head of DEI makes those decisions and she's told highs school students who were biracial they couldn't join certain clubs because they weren't X enough. She has a horrible reputation among the students and she's a POC herself so I don't get it. It's a real shame.

Name the school or you are lying.

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I'm convinced this thread is full of trolls.

I'm not as optimistic.

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Anonymous wrote:DEI is discrimination. Changing the target class doesn’t make it right

Agreed. I'm glad to see it on its way out in most organizations.