Stop the Speculations :)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does IB factor into admissions? Does the student need to get the diploma to be considered most rigorous? I've heard very mixed things about whether getting the diploma is worth the time and effort.

That is a great question.

But OP is a troll and even if they have a good answer they won't give it without spewing more malice.

I’m not the original poster, but I don’t see any malice here. It’s all really helpful.

If it’s pissing you off, just go somewhere else.

Also, not to offend trolls, but they don't usually have the fortitude to post such a long, detailed troll post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does IB factor into admissions? Does the student need to get the diploma to be considered most rigorous? I've heard very mixed things about whether getting the diploma is worth the time and effort.

That is a great question.

But OP is a troll and even if they have a good answer they won't give it without spewing more malice.

I’m not the original poster, but I don’t see any malice here. It’s all really helpful.

If it’s pissing you off, just go somewhere else.

Dp, but op is just reposting old posts from reddiit’s applying to college board. Pp is right in saying op has no special insider insight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does IB factor into admissions? Does the student need to get the diploma to be considered most rigorous? I've heard very mixed things about whether getting the diploma is worth the time and effort.

That is a great question.

But OP is a troll and even if they have a good answer they won't give it without spewing more malice.

I’m not the original poster, but I don’t see any malice here. It’s all really helpful.

If it’s pissing you off, just go somewhere else.

Dp, but op is just reposting old posts from reddiit’s applying to college board. Pp is right in saying op has no special insider insight.

Who cares? It’s still helpful. Why is this bothering you so much???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What AOs keep saying, but no one wants to hear, is that they aren't ranking the students and taking the "best" by any metric. They are filling departments and filling the sports teams and the bands and they cannot and don't care about assigning some precise "quality score" to each student. The AOs care about their class. They don't care about any of your specific kids.
You can't game it by min-maxing your efforts to fit their metrics, because they don't have metrics. You can only game it by being different among equivalent options (bassoon not violin) and cheating to boost your scores and lying or uying fake achievements.

An applicant with an interest in actuarial mathematics or plant biology will have better odds than CS or pre-med applicants.

100%.
Major absolutely matters. It’s why all of the CA college counselors tell Asian students to apply to schools were major switching is easy… so they apply as humanities majors and spend all of high school creating a humanities-based résumé. Though deep down they all want to be premed or computer science or something…..

It also matters if the kid has very specific and pointy interests that are not the same old same old. No one cares about student government and model UN anymore.

Unless you are the whole package. What is the whole package? The valedictorian who is the captain of the football team, who is one of the very best students the teachers have seen in their lifetime, who is also a genuine and nice kind, caring person out of their way in both every day and extracurricular activities to lend a helping hand..
It’s not all founding non-profits or publishing research….

All great points.
There are a lot of good lessons here for people who have freshman or younger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does IB factor into admissions? Does the student need to get the diploma to be considered most rigorous? I've heard very mixed things about whether getting the diploma is worth the time and effort.

That is a great question.

But OP is a troll and even if they have a good answer they won't give it without spewing more malice.

I’m not the original poster, but I don’t see any malice here. It’s all really helpful.

If it’s pissing you off, just go somewhere else.

It isn’t bothering me (you know what different poster means, right?) but it makes clear that op has no independent knowledge of college admissions. It’s also info that is an admissions cycle or two old.

Dp, but op is just reposting old posts from reddiit’s applying to college board. Pp is right in saying op has no special insider insight.

Who cares? It’s still helpful. Why is this bothering you so much???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^Well, many on here are paying THOUSANDS of dollars to basically have someone else write their kids’ essays. Where is the detector for that?

The whole college admissions is a scam. People with money can hire college counselors to cultivate the app; URM, first gen, legacies, athletes have a hook. Meanwhile, the leftovers fight for that .05% spot which is basically a lottery for a million dollars.

Goodness. Why participate at all? There are literally hundreds of hooks. Why does this same list keep getting posted?

Grievance Politics.

Not much mileage in pointing out the "bassoon player" hook

Bassoon player is not a hook. At all.
That’s just filling an institutional need.

"That's not half a dozen!"

"How is it not? It is six. Six is exactly half of one dozen."

"Not if you're a baker."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does IB factor into admissions? Does the student need to get the diploma to be considered most rigorous? I've heard very mixed things about whether getting the diploma is worth the time and effort.

That is a great question.

But OP is a troll and even if they have a good answer they won't give it without spewing more malice.

I’m not the original poster, but I don’t see any malice here. It’s all really helpful.

If it’s pissing you off, just go somewhere else.

You know that “dp” memes different poster right?




Dp, but op is just reposting old posts from reddiit’s applying to college board. Pp is right in saying op has no special insider insight.

Who cares? It’s still helpful. Why is this bothering you so much???

Who said it was bothering me?

If you think reposting posts from two years ago is helpful, fine. But op clearly has no insider info.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

DP: I listened to a podcast with the Dartmouth AO, and although he didn't mention a scoring rubric, but he clearly stated that scores are considered within the context of the reported high school scores via the school profile, counselor's rec and/or Landscape/College Board. I also remember a Yale AO saying something similar in why scores were important to their institution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

DP: I listened to a podcast with the Dartmouth AO, and although he didn't mention a scoring rubric, but he clearly stated that scores are considered within the context of the reported high school scores via the school profile, counselor's rec and/or Landscape/College Board. I also remember a Yale AO saying something similar in why scores were important to their institution.

Yale was the very first mailing my son received October of Junior year and they said 'due to his high scores'. It was a 35 first ACT with 36 in verbal & reading.

He then received a big book from Harvard, Dartmouth, etc.

This was before we started getting the 100 million mailings from schools I never heard of.

It did sit with me that scores must carry weight because none of his friends received mailings from those schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

Listen to the Dartmouth podcast with the Yale admissions officer about test scores. Tons of room for nuance, at least at highly selective privates.
https://admissions.dartmouth.edu/follow/admissions-beat-podcast (Data Dive Part 2)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

DP: I listened to a podcast with the Dartmouth AO, and although he didn't mention a scoring rubric, but he clearly stated that scores are considered within the context of the reported high school scores via the school profile, counselor's rec and/or Landscape/College Board. I also remember a Yale AO saying something similar in why scores were important to their institution.

Yes, they mention this all the time on the YCBK (Your College Bound Kid) podcast. AOs are very interested in scores given in context with a student's school/area. A 1350 from a high school in western Kentucky that rarely sees a score above 1100 is very different from a 1350 from Chantilly HS in Fairfax, VA where many, many students score in the 1300-1500 range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

DP: I listened to a podcast with the Dartmouth AO, and although he didn't mention a scoring rubric, but he clearly stated that scores are considered within the context of the reported high school scores via the school profile, counselor's rec and/or Landscape/College Board. I also remember a Yale AO saying something similar in why scores were important to their institution.

Yes, they mention this all the time on the YCBK (Your College Bound Kid) podcast. AOs are very interested in scores given in context with a student's school/area. A 1350 from a high school in western Kentucky that rarely sees a score above 1100 is very different from a 1350 from Chantilly HS in Fairfax, VA where many, many students score in the 1300-1500 range.

All good to know. Just wondering why nobody has every posted on the multiple ""should I submit by X score to Top 10 school" any of this information.

Seems the person wondering if they should submit their 1500 to Duke should 100% do it if their HS median SAT score is 1000 and they are the highest score in the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Test scores are just that. If a student scores 1350 and their school reports that score is the top of the class, that would likely be a “5”. If the students scores a 1450 and that is in the 2nd quintile of his school’s reported scores, then that student may be rated a 4 or lower.

This was the most interesting comment by OP and I apologize if it was asked about in prior threads.

This would imply that your absolute score should not determine if you apply TO or not, but rather how it compares to others from your school.

That is an interesting take that I have not seen discussed before.

I’d be surprised if this is accurate? Because it would require a nuance in interpreting the scores.

DP: I listened to a podcast with the Dartmouth AO, and although he didn't mention a scoring rubric, but he clearly stated that scores are considered within the context of the reported high school scores via the school profile, counselor's rec and/or Landscape/College Board. I also remember a Yale AO saying something similar in why scores were important to their institution.

Yes, they mention this all the time on the YCBK (Your College Bound Kid) podcast. AOs are very interested in scores given in context with a student's school/area. A 1350 from a high school in western Kentucky that rarely sees a score above 1100 is very different from a 1350 from Chantilly HS in Fairfax, VA where many, many students score in the 1300-1500 range.

All good to know. Just wondering why nobody has every posted on the multiple ""should I submit by X score to Top 10 school" any of this information.

Seems the person wondering if they should submit their 1500 to Duke should 100% do it if their HS median SAT score is 1000 and they are the highest score in the school.

Most privates don’t disclose their avg test scores on school profile…ours doesn’t.