NVA seeking ecnl coaches

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Valor GFR top teams are 2nd tier teams statewide. Parents on those teams don’t know it, as they have only ever been on the top team winning local tournaments.

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Anonymous wrote:Valor GFR top teams are 2nd tier teams statewide. Parents on those teams don’t know it, as they have only ever been on the top team winning local tournaments.

Essentially the same to be said about any of the clubs in the RL league.

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Anonymous wrote:Valor GFR top teams are 2nd tier teams statewide. Parents on those teams don’t know it, as they have only ever been on the top team winning local tournaments.

Essentially the same to be said about any of the clubs in the RL league.

Fire all of the NVA Coaches. VALOR, GFR and LOUDOUN SHOULD ALL SEPARATE FROM NVA! FEEDERS!

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Anonymous wrote:Valor GFR top teams are 2nd tier teams statewide. Parents on those teams don’t know it, as they have only ever been on the top team winning local tournaments.

There are good players everywhere. Players develop in different ways, times, paces, and circumstances. Developing a love of sport is just as important if not more so. pay to play system instills a mindset that pay more must be better. Rankings of teams and players must be meaningful.

They may be true more often than not or self fulfilling but certainly not based on a real correlation.

Many ECNL-RL teams can straight up beat the ECNL ones

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Anonymous wrote:Valor GFR top teams are 2nd tier teams statewide. Parents on those teams don’t know it, as they have only ever been on the top team winning local tournaments.

There are good players everywhere. Players develop in different ways, times, paces, and circumstances. Developing a love of sport is just as important if not more so. pay to play system instills a mindset that pay more must be better. Rankings of teams and players must be meaningful.

They may be true more often than not or self fulfilling but certainly not based on a real correlation.

Many ECNL-RL teams can straight up beat the ECNL ones

Please don't take away my rights to humble brag about how much my kid's soccer season is costing me

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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t add clubs, they partnered with them. And at least one is dealing with internal pressure to pull out.

Would that be Valor or Great Falls? From what I understand, both clubs were excited to be a part of that "partnership" (although one wonders how the two smaller clubs benefit from that agreement).

very few Valor or GFR players made it to the NVa ECNL rosters
practices are farther away for these players
very few of these ECNL players are going on to significant post high school playing (this is the primary selling point for the ECNL clubs, that your kid needs to be on a ECNL or MLS Next club to get 'there')
some of the NVA teams just are not significantly better despite more training

Well thats because most valor and GFR kids were not significantly better than current rosters. This is more a long term strategy to get kids in earlier to develop. They simply would not going to cut loudoun players make room with players who were about the same. That being said they are on par with all the Virginia ECNL teams. ECNL has now become diluted talent wise as clubs chased the ECNL status.

No that’s because the Loudoun coaches still control and were not going to cut ‘their’ kids.

The NVA ecnl teams have lost to their ‘feeder teams’ in head to head so fool yourself if you feel better but the score don’t lie.

this is false. The feeder teams didn’t show up well in id sessions and were just plain outworked and targeted by the existing rosters. The dual roster who crossed the pckt line cant hang in practice w the current rosters as there is a talent gap. The hold outs who did get offers i guess feel its better to wait teams out for the inevitable implosions or maybe they will in fact try to go it alone?

Next year will be very telling

What exactly are you trying to say? Targeted? Go it alone? You talking about coaches or players?

players. They weren’t going for it. Saw a lotta loudoun vs perspective replacements. It didn’t go well for the other clubs. With that said DR players got outwoked in practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like poster is saying anybody from the feeder clubs who showed up to ID after the NVA announcement wasn't worth a roster spot.

Then added that one player that they noticed that took a dual roster option of their feeder club and NVA rather than hold out, cannot hang with the current roster.

this… all of this. Some teams play up to competition i guess… again next year will be telling

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Anonymous wrote:any valor/gfr parents on here? you cool with a culture that refers to your children as "feeder" kids?

loudoun parent here. My guess is they aren’t. At least the girls are holdin out lol.

But it is the truth… until valor programs beat out loudoun in rl/travel teams

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Anonymous wrote:Who is NVA again? Joint operation of 2 clubs?

3 clubs

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Anonymous wrote:Always a good sign when you have to post to soccerwire for ecnl coaches to apply.

https://www.soccerwire.com/tryout-camp/ecnl-coach-wanted/

What message does that send to current Loudoun coaches with a B or A license?

Maybe to apply for the job.

Don't agree with their ethics (or lack thereof)

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Anonymous wrote:They didn’t add clubs, they partnered with them. And at least one is dealing with internal pressure to pull out.

Would that be Valor or Great Falls? From what I understand, both clubs were excited to be a part of that "partnership" (although one wonders how the two smaller clubs benefit from that agreement).

very few Valor or GFR players made it to the NVa ECNL rosters
practices are farther away for these players
very few of these ECNL players are going on to significant post high school playing (this is the primary selling point for the ECNL clubs, that your kid needs to be on a ECNL or MLS Next club to get 'there')
some of the NVA teams just are not significantly better despite more training

GFR parent here. Guess what? Our RL team could have (and did) beat an LS ECNL team in my daughter's age group. She had zero interest in driving that far for mediocre coaching. We looked at the team, talked to parents on the team, and watched a few games before we said no thanks. The older ECNL-R teams are just as good if not better than some actual ECNL teams in the area. Once ECNL plays GA or even some EDP Maryland team we will see how much "better" the level of play actually is. Guess what? Loudoun doesn't want to scrimmage actual competitive teams, at least on the girls side.
Can't speak for the boys ECNL teams. They might be more competitive.

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Anonymous wrote:NVA 06/05G won their WAGS bracket playing against their feeder GFR and Valor teams and tying Richmond. Not much difference in these teams, what is point of playing on NVA if your team is still in the same bracket as your feeder teams?

Exactly! They didn't play actual ECNL teams, just RL since they had such a bad record and didn't make the top flight...One would expect an ECNL team to beat an RL team. I saw the end of one of the 05/06 games and there was very little difference in the level of play between RL an the actual ECNL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:NVA 06/05G won their WAGS bracket playing against their feeder GFR and Valor teams and tying Richmond. Not much difference in these teams, what is point of playing on NVA if your team is still in the same bracket as your feeder teams?

Exactly! They didn't play actual ECNL teams, just RL since they had such a bad record and didn't make the top flight...One would expect an ECNL team to beat an RL team. I saw the end of one of the 05/06 games and there was very little difference in the level of play between RL an the actual ECNL teams.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like poster is saying anybody from the feeder clubs who showed up to ID after the NVA announcement wasn't worth a roster spot.

Then added that one player that they noticed that took a dual roster option of their feeder club and NVA rather than hold out, cannot hang with the current roster.

As a parent of an 05 that's already committed for college from a "feeder club" NVA just didn't appeal to us. Our club is small, has excellent technical development, a close team environment, and supportive coaches. A lot of our team got pulled up to NVA but they were already committed, so it was a little odd that they would want to go to a club that was farther get to practice. It didn't make sense for us personally so we passed. I can say its causing issues with players being dual rostered to NVA ECNL and "feeder" RL since they need to pass their guest cards back and forth. This is something that the clubs probably didn't think through when allowing this NVA to take place. It benefits the big club, but not so much the smaller ones. Call us a feeder or what not, I have full confidence that my club is positioned with their coaching staff and players that they can compete at the highest levels. Happy holidays!

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like poster is saying anybody from the feeder clubs who showed up to ID after the NVA announcement wasn't worth a roster spot.

Then added that one player that they noticed that took a dual roster option of their feeder club and NVA rather than hold out, cannot hang with the current roster.

As a parent of an 05 that's already committed for college from a "feeder club" NVA just didn't appeal to us. Our club is small, has excellent technical development, a close team environment, and supportive coaches. A lot of our team got pulled up to NVA but they were already committed, so it was a little odd that they would want to go to a club that was farther get to practice. It didn't make sense for us personally so we passed. I can say its causing issues with players being dual rostered to NVA ECNL and "feeder" RL since they need to pass their guest cards back and forth. This is something that the clubs probably didn't think through when allowing this NVA to take place. It benefits the big club, but not so much the smaller ones. Call us a feeder or what not, I have full confidence that my club is positioned with their coaching staff and players that they can compete at the highest levels. Happy holidays!

So the key issue is passing a player card around? Doesn’t sound too big of an issue. Regardless some people like big clubs some like small clubs. No one is saying bigger is best for everyone.