Joe Biden is the best president of my lifetime

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Anonymous wrote:I was born in 1962, and I think Joe Biden is the best president I've ever seen. If he gets in for a second term, I bet he'll try his damnedest to do as much as he can about global warming.

I started a thread to talk about political solutions to global warming and was surprised how much he’s actually done already (I didn’t put all of it in that thread). It’s a real laundry list of wins for the environment, not that the corporate media wants you to hear about them.
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


The government is not supposed to be a transfer mechanism for wealth.

I understand the attitude changed to a sense of entitlement, but you really aren't owed.

JFK said it: "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". He, as a democrat, would not recognize the USA today.

The democrat party has become totally alien to that, and just expects handouts from others and keeps asking for more: free childcare, free healthcare, free universal basic income, free this, free that. Why should anyone bother working?

70% of the federal budget is transfer payments. It's time for that nonsense to end. You're getting more than ever from other people and yet, it's never enough for you.


Funny how you fail to acknowledge the wealth accumulation that happened during slavery that benefited many of the families that are the leisure class rich today, or the corporate hand outs, or the subsidies to farmers and other industries that are not the working poor. If you want to save money, start by taxing estates over 25 or 30 million, taxing income over a million, trust me, it won't curtail people's motivation to work hard and earn and save. Also, what do you expect those who you claim "expect handouts" to do when they are already working two jobs at minimum wage and can't keep their heads above water? What about those who are disability and can't work, many of whom are white, poor people who have diabetes and sit on their butts in Appalchia etc? We are supposed to be a wealthy country who take care of their poor and raise all boats, but if you want to consider people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, then you also have to consider a lot of people were born on 3rd base as well.


I'm tired of you griping about the poor. You live in perpetual victimhood. That's on you.

"In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began. " - Heritage.org


It isn't about personal victimhood, would you rather people are simply starving in the streets, that people just die because? And again, you fail to recognize people like Peter Theil, Marck Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are not self made billionaires. They all started life on 3rd base. They should have generations of progency set for life because of luck of the draw?

There are millions of Americans who grow up, save money, live a good life, worked hard and have a few hundred thousand or million to pass on, that is great and should be encouraged. But at what point is the amount of money a next generation needs to have a good start in life? 10 million? 50 milli0on? 5 billion? Some of that money should be taxed, because it is the conditions in the US that facilitated these people to make their billions, and the country should be paid back for some of that infrastructure, education or market conditions that enabled it.


Nobody is "starving in the streets". I would like them to get off their dead azzes and actually support themselves instead of having the mentality that they owed something by someone else. The tax you talk about would drive investment overseas because we live in a global economy.

Lately, there are MANY countries that are facilitating people to make billions and the U.S. is not at the top.

Pay back? Pay back what? They bring a product to market and you consume it. You should pay back just as much as they do. This entitlement mentality is ridiculous.
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


The government is not supposed to be a transfer mechanism for wealth.

I understand the attitude changed to a sense of entitlement, but you really aren't owed.

JFK said it: "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". He, as a democrat, would not recognize the USA today.

The democrat party has become totally alien to that, and just expects handouts from others and keeps asking for more: free childcare, free healthcare, free universal basic income, free this, free that. Why should anyone bother working?

70% of the federal budget is transfer payments. It's time for that nonsense to end. You're getting more than ever from other people and yet, it's never enough for you.


Funny how you fail to acknowledge the wealth accumulation that happened during slavery that benefited many of the families that are the leisure class rich today, or the corporate hand outs, or the subsidies to farmers and other industries that are not the working poor. If you want to save money, start by taxing estates over 25 or 30 million, taxing income over a million, trust me, it won't curtail people's motivation to work hard and earn and save. Also, what do you expect those who you claim "expect handouts" to do when they are already working two jobs at minimum wage and can't keep their heads above water? What about those who are disability and can't work, many of whom are white, poor people who have diabetes and sit on their butts in Appalchia etc? We are supposed to be a wealthy country who take care of their poor and raise all boats, but if you want to consider people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, then you also have to consider a lot of people were born on 3rd base as well.


I'm tired of you griping about the poor. You live in perpetual victimhood. That's on you.

"In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began. " - Heritage.org


It isn't about personal victimhood, would you rather people are simply starving in the streets, that people just die because? And again, you fail to recognize people like Peter Theil, Marck Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are not self made billionaires. They all started life on 3rd base. They should have generations of progency set for life because of luck of the draw?

There are millions of Americans who grow up, save money, live a good life, worked hard and have a few hundred thousand or million to pass on, that is great and should be encouraged. But at what point is the amount of money a next generation needs to have a good start in life? 10 million? 50 milli0on? 5 billion? Some of that money should be taxed, because it is the conditions in the US that facilitated these people to make their billions, and the country should be paid back for some of that infrastructure, education or market conditions that enabled it.

+1

The people who cape for billionaires are just pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:I was born in 1962, and I think Joe Biden is the best president I've ever seen. If he gets in for a second term, I bet he'll try his damnedest to do as much as he can about global warming.

I started a thread to talk about political solutions to global warming and was surprised how much he’s actually done already (I didn’t put all of it in that thread). It’s a real laundry list of wins for the environment, not that the corporate media wants you to hear about them.


I just posted this over in the Biden's Economy thread, but to that point:

Biden has done a shit-ton.

American Rescue Plan
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
Inflation Reduction Act
Bipartisan Safer Communities Act
CHIPS and Science Act
PACT Act
Postal Service Reform Act
Respect for Marriage Act
Tuition forgiveness
Coordinating international response to support Ukraine against Russia's invasion.

That list really understates what he's done though because several of those legislative accomplishments are truly monumental.
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Anonymous wrote:Clinton was by far the best President of my lifetime. Biden has been surprisingly good though. What would push him over the top? If he would do more to influence “law and order” in urban areas, quite frankly. Sort of related, he needs to use the bully pulpit more to make irrelevant the progressive wing of the party.
He does this and he’s definitely the best president over my 50 years.


Clinton was fine but really disappointing he didn't achieve more with what he was given. He squandered a huge peace dividend after the fall of the Soviet Union. He implemented NAFTA (with no plan to address how it would decimate manufacturing jobs) and deregulated Wall Street (by repealing Glass Steagall) and allowed the dot.com bubble build - the first two of which contributed directly to the GFC as well as the populist surge we've seen in the last 15 years. He represented the worst aspects of meritocracy and the revolving door between industry and government -- smart people that thought they were too smart for main street and leveraged their influence and government positions to make money after office. He also was a centrist and contributed to the Republicans tacking right. That's not his fault but it's an indirect consequence of it.

Obama was not ready and relied way too much on the Clinton folks when he presided. He spent his political capital on the ACA rather than holding the banks accountable for the GFC and after two years, was in a holding pattern for the next six years. He got us out of the GFC and implemented the ACA but not much else. That's not his fault but it failed to recognize that you can't just implement policies and expect citizens to reward you for them. You have to sell those policies and make sure to claim credit with good messaging. Biden recognized this.

Biden has done more to implement direct policies to aid the working and middle class than any President in my lifetime. He implemented the Inflation Reduction Act and Chips Act designed to bring back manufacturing to this country, not to mention the largest Infrastructure Act in history. Is he perfect? No. But, GD, give the man credit for getting us out of the COVID slump and actually trying to make a difference. He's actively trying to help unions. He's about to reschedule marijuana. He also got us out of the quagmire that was Afghanistan and has not directly embroiled us in in Ukraine (the cost of turning a geopolitical adversary into an afterthought has been remarkably cheap and free of American lives lost). He also reaffirmed our ties to NATO. He's probably the best President on foreign policy since Reagan. And he's doing this all in the face of opposition that has gone completely off the rail to even aiding and abetting traitors.

pp. I agree a lot with your third paragraph. But I still wish he would do more to make cities safe again. There’s too much rot that progressives sweep under the rug because of their unproven theories. Biden needs to use his position as head of the government and the party to address this. Maybe I’m just old and wish for the moderate party I grew up with that embraces law and order-I genuinely see a societal breakdown occurring right now.


PP. I agree but how much do you want the Federal government interfering with the governance of cities? Alot of this is on too many idealistic progressives failing to deal with the realities of crime in places like San Francisco and Chicago. We're still grappling with the George Floyd aftershocks. That's not on Biden. Biden, as a moderate, doesn't want to alienate those to left of him. It's a fine line to walk.


Crime is way better now than it was under Reagan, and we have people calling him the best ever. Wild double standards.
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


The government is not supposed to be a transfer mechanism for wealth.

I understand the attitude changed to a sense of entitlement, but you really aren't owed.

JFK said it: "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". He, as a democrat, would not recognize the USA today.

The democrat party has become totally alien to that, and just expects handouts from others and keeps asking for more: free childcare, free healthcare, free universal basic income, free this, free that. Why should anyone bother working?

70% of the federal budget is transfer payments. It's time for that nonsense to end. You're getting more than ever from other people and yet, it's never enough for you.


Funny how you fail to acknowledge the wealth accumulation that happened during slavery that benefited many of the families that are the leisure class rich today, or the corporate hand outs, or the subsidies to farmers and other industries that are not the working poor. If you want to save money, start by taxing estates over 25 or 30 million, taxing income over a million, trust me, it won't curtail people's motivation to work hard and earn and save. Also, what do you expect those who you claim "expect handouts" to do when they are already working two jobs at minimum wage and can't keep their heads above water? What about those who are disability and can't work, many of whom are white, poor people who have diabetes and sit on their butts in Appalchia etc? We are supposed to be a wealthy country who take care of their poor and raise all boats, but if you want to consider people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, then you also have to consider a lot of people were born on 3rd base as well.


I'm tired of you griping about the poor. You live in perpetual victimhood. That's on you.

"In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began. " - Heritage.org


It isn't about personal victimhood, would you rather people are simply starving in the streets, that people just die because? And again, you fail to recognize people like Peter Theil, Marck Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are not self made billionaires. They all started life on 3rd base. They should have generations of progency set for life because of luck of the draw?

There are millions of Americans who grow up, save money, live a good life, worked hard and have a few hundred thousand or million to pass on, that is great and should be encouraged. But at what point is the amount of money a next generation needs to have a good start in life? 10 million? 50 milli0on? 5 billion? Some of that money should be taxed, because it is the conditions in the US that facilitated these people to make their billions, and the country should be paid back for some of that infrastructure, education or market conditions that enabled it.


Nobody is "starving in the streets". I would like them to get off their dead azzes and actually support themselves instead of having the mentality that they owed something by someone else. The tax you talk about would drive investment overseas because we live in a global economy.

Lately, there are MANY countries that are facilitating people to make billions and the U.S. is not at the top.

Pay back? Pay back what? They bring a product to market and you consume it. You should pay back just as much as they do. This entitlement mentality is ridiculous.


Nobody is starving in the streets because we have SNAP and other subsidy programs that at the end of the day, are far less costly than literally having people starving in the streets.

And as to your last point, why is it I pay 25-30% in taxes but the uber wealthy pay 0-8%?

They should be paying the same 33% that everyone else in the top 4% pays. But they don't. Why not?
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


Chalk that up to the will of the voters. With the exception of Carter's post-Watergate victory, the old liberal candidates who would have held the line on taxing the wealthy and a strong social safety net got absolutely pasted in the elections from 1968 - 1988. It was only when Clinton presented himself as a neoliberal did the Democrats have some electoral success. I think Obama and, even more, Biden have had more success with more liberal economic policies as the rot of Reaganomics and neoliberalism became more apparent.
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


The government is not supposed to be a transfer mechanism for wealth.

I understand the attitude changed to a sense of entitlement, but you really aren't owed.

JFK said it: "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". He, as a democrat, would not recognize the USA today.

The democrat party has become totally alien to that, and just expects handouts from others and keeps asking for more: free childcare, free healthcare, free universal basic income, free this, free that. Why should anyone bother working?

70% of the federal budget is transfer payments. It's time for that nonsense to end. You're getting more than ever from other people and yet, it's never enough for you.


Funny how you fail to acknowledge the wealth accumulation that happened during slavery that benefited many of the families that are the leisure class rich today, or the corporate hand outs, or the subsidies to farmers and other industries that are not the working poor. If you want to save money, start by taxing estates over 25 or 30 million, taxing income over a million, trust me, it won't curtail people's motivation to work hard and earn and save. Also, what do you expect those who you claim "expect handouts" to do when they are already working two jobs at minimum wage and can't keep their heads above water? What about those who are disability and can't work, many of whom are white, poor people who have diabetes and sit on their butts in Appalchia etc? We are supposed to be a wealthy country who take care of their poor and raise all boats, but if you want to consider people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, then you also have to consider a lot of people were born on 3rd base as well.


I'm tired of you griping about the poor. You live in perpetual victimhood. That's on you.

"In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began. " - Heritage.org


It isn't about personal victimhood, would you rather people are simply starving in the streets, that people just die because? And again, you fail to recognize people like Peter Theil, Marck Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are not self made billionaires. They all started life on 3rd base. They should have generations of progency set for life because of luck of the draw?

There are millions of Americans who grow up, save money, live a good life, worked hard and have a few hundred thousand or million to pass on, that is great and should be encouraged. But at what point is the amount of money a next generation needs to have a good start in life? 10 million? 50 milli0on? 5 billion? Some of that money should be taxed, because it is the conditions in the US that facilitated these people to make their billions, and the country should be paid back for some of that infrastructure, education or market conditions that enabled it.


Nobody is "starving in the streets". I would like them to get off their dead azzes and actually support themselves instead of having the mentality that they owed something by someone else. The tax you talk about would drive investment overseas because we live in a global economy.

Lately, there are MANY countries that are facilitating people to make billions and the U.S. is not at the top.

Pay back? Pay back what? They bring a product to market and you consume it. You should pay back just as much as they do. This entitlement mentality is ridiculous.


Nobody is starving in the streets because we have SNAP and other subsidy programs that at the end of the day, are far less costly than literally having people starving in the streets.

And as to your last point, why is it I pay 25-30% in taxes but the uber wealthy pay 0-8%?

They should be paying the same 33% that everyone else in the top 4% pays. But they don't. Why not?


Any reason why you can't be wealthy and pay 0-8% taxes? Are you that dumb?
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


The government is not supposed to be a transfer mechanism for wealth.

I understand the attitude changed to a sense of entitlement, but you really aren't owed.

JFK said it: "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". He, as a democrat, would not recognize the USA today.

The democrat party has become totally alien to that, and just expects handouts from others and keeps asking for more: free childcare, free healthcare, free universal basic income, free this, free that. Why should anyone bother working?

70% of the federal budget is transfer payments. It's time for that nonsense to end. You're getting more than ever from other people and yet, it's never enough for you.


Funny how you fail to acknowledge the wealth accumulation that happened during slavery that benefited many of the families that are the leisure class rich today, or the corporate hand outs, or the subsidies to farmers and other industries that are not the working poor. If you want to save money, start by taxing estates over 25 or 30 million, taxing income over a million, trust me, it won't curtail people's motivation to work hard and earn and save. Also, what do you expect those who you claim "expect handouts" to do when they are already working two jobs at minimum wage and can't keep their heads above water? What about those who are disability and can't work, many of whom are white, poor people who have diabetes and sit on their butts in Appalchia etc? We are supposed to be a wealthy country who take care of their poor and raise all boats, but if you want to consider people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, then you also have to consider a lot of people were born on 3rd base as well.


I'm tired of you griping about the poor. You live in perpetual victimhood. That's on you.

"In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began. " - Heritage.org


It isn't about personal victimhood, would you rather people are simply starving in the streets, that people just die because? And again, you fail to recognize people like Peter Theil, Marck Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are not self made billionaires. They all started life on 3rd base. They should have generations of progency set for life because of luck of the draw?

There are millions of Americans who grow up, save money, live a good life, worked hard and have a few hundred thousand or million to pass on, that is great and should be encouraged. But at what point is the amount of money a next generation needs to have a good start in life? 10 million? 50 milli0on? 5 billion? Some of that money should be taxed, because it is the conditions in the US that facilitated these people to make their billions, and the country should be paid back for some of that infrastructure, education or market conditions that enabled it.


Nobody is "starving in the streets". I would like them to get off their dead azzes and actually support themselves instead of having the mentality that they owed something by someone else. The tax you talk about would drive investment overseas because we live in a global economy.

Lately, there are MANY countries that are facilitating people to make billions and the U.S. is not at the top.

Pay back? Pay back what? They bring a product to market and you consume it. You should pay back just as much as they do. This entitlement mentality is ridiculous.


Nobody is starving in the streets because we have SNAP and other subsidy programs that at the end of the day, are far less costly than literally having people starving in the streets.

And as to your last point, why is it I pay 25-30% in taxes but the uber wealthy pay 0-8%?

They should be paying the same 33% that everyone else in the top 4% pays. But they don't. Why not?


Any reason why you can't be wealthy and pay 0-8% taxes? Are you that dumb?


What does intelligence have to do with wealth? The most important factor is sliding out of a rich vagina.
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Anonymous wrote:My lifetime is marked by GOP Presidents who increased wealth disparity by pushing for tax cuts the country couldn’t afford and slashing domestic spending, and weak Democratic Presidents who were unable to reign in the mess their Republican counterparts caused.


The government is not supposed to be a transfer mechanism for wealth.

I understand the attitude changed to a sense of entitlement, but you really aren't owed.

JFK said it: "Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". He, as a democrat, would not recognize the USA today.

The democrat party has become totally alien to that, and just expects handouts from others and keeps asking for more: free childcare, free healthcare, free universal basic income, free this, free that. Why should anyone bother working?

70% of the federal budget is transfer payments. It's time for that nonsense to end. You're getting more than ever from other people and yet, it's never enough for you.


Funny how you fail to acknowledge the wealth accumulation that happened during slavery that benefited many of the families that are the leisure class rich today, or the corporate hand outs, or the subsidies to farmers and other industries that are not the working poor. If you want to save money, start by taxing estates over 25 or 30 million, taxing income over a million, trust me, it won't curtail people's motivation to work hard and earn and save. Also, what do you expect those who you claim "expect handouts" to do when they are already working two jobs at minimum wage and can't keep their heads above water? What about those who are disability and can't work, many of whom are white, poor people who have diabetes and sit on their butts in Appalchia etc? We are supposed to be a wealthy country who take care of their poor and raise all boats, but if you want to consider people who are pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, then you also have to consider a lot of people were born on 3rd base as well.


I'm tired of you griping about the poor. You live in perpetual victimhood. That's on you.

"In his January 1964 State of the Union address, President Lyndon Johnson proclaimed, “This administration today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in America.” In the 50 years since that time, U.S. taxpayers have spent over $22 trillion on anti-poverty programs. Adjusted for inflation, this spending (which does not include Social Security or Medicare) is three times the cost of all U.S. military wars since the American Revolution. Yet progress against poverty, as measured by the U.S. Census Bureau, has been minimal, and in terms of President Johnson’s main goal of reducing the “causes” rather than the mere “consequences” of poverty, the War on Poverty has failed completely. In fact, a significant portion of the population is now less capable of self-sufficiency than it was when the War on Poverty began. " - Heritage.org


It isn't about personal victimhood, would you rather people are simply starving in the streets, that people just die because? And again, you fail to recognize people like Peter Theil, Marck Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are not self made billionaires. They all started life on 3rd base. They should have generations of progency set for life because of luck of the draw?

There are millions of Americans who grow up, save money, live a good life, worked hard and have a few hundred thousand or million to pass on, that is great and should be encouraged. But at what point is the amount of money a next generation needs to have a good start in life? 10 million? 50 milli0on? 5 billion? Some of that money should be taxed, because it is the conditions in the US that facilitated these people to make their billions, and the country should be paid back for some of that infrastructure, education or market conditions that enabled it.


Nobody is "starving in the streets". I would like them to get off their dead azzes and actually support themselves instead of having the mentality that they owed something by someone else. The tax you talk about would drive investment overseas because we live in a global economy.

Lately, there are MANY countries that are facilitating people to make billions and the U.S. is not at the top.

Pay back? Pay back what? They bring a product to market and you consume it. You should pay back just as much as they do. This entitlement mentality is ridiculous.


Nobody is starving in the streets because we have SNAP and other subsidy programs that at the end of the day, are far less costly than literally having people starving in the streets.

And as to your last point, why is it I pay 25-30% in taxes but the uber wealthy pay 0-8%?

They should be paying the same 33% that everyone else in the top 4% pays. But they don't. Why not?


Any reason why you can't be wealthy and pay 0-8% taxes? Are you that dumb?


What does intelligence have to do with wealth? The most important factor is sliding out of a rich vagina.


You are wrong.

Just how deep does the myth that millionaires’ wealth simply fell into their laps go? We found out that 74% of millennials believe millionaires inherited their money and more than half (52%) of baby boomers think the same thing.1

But our study of millionaires blows that theory out of the water. Here are the facts:

Only 21% of millionaires received any inheritance at all.
Just 16% inherited more than $100,000.
And get this: Only 3% received an inheritance at or above $1 million!2
Think about that: Most folks believe millionaires simply inherited their wealth, but the vast majority of millionaires didn’t get any inheritance at all—and those who did certainly didn’t get enough to make them millionaires!


https://www.ramseysolutions.com/retirement/how-many-millionaires-actually-inherited-their-wealth#:~:text=Here%20are%20the%20facts%3A,at%20or%20above%20%241%20million!
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Nice bait and switch. The "uber wealthy" who pay something like an 8% tax rate are billionaires. You can't cite some Dave Ramsey survey on millionaires as proof that billionaires didn't get help from mommy and daddy.

The top 1% on average inherits something like $700,000. And they are nowhere near billionaires.
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