TWSB Nutcracker 2023!

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

I have a dancer who was a soldier for 3 years and is now a bunny- which is basically an advanced soldier. It was a rough night in our house

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone describe the Valley Forge Bunny role? DD doesn’t know what to think about it.

The bunny is like the head of the soldiers. But they get a little more stage time during the battle scene

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

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Ours was a page last year and a bunny this year. Lots of tears last night. Had a long talk with her at 1 am because she couldn't sleep, she was feeling badly about herself. She had spent the weeks leading practicing the clown and butterfly dance and felt really good after the audition. Hard night. I do think she'll come around after this weekend.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

That is a great analogy - Clara and the Prince spend a TON of time sitting and watching!
And the flower page costumes are quite pretty!

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Anonymous wrote:Ours was a page last year and a bunny this year. Lots of tears last night. Had a long talk with her at 1 am because she couldn't sleep, she was feeling badly about herself. She had spent the weeks leading practicing the clown and butterfly dance and felt really good after the audition. Hard night. I do think she'll come around after this weekend.

I'm sorry for your kiddo.
I am sure she will come around when things get going.
Page to Bunny is at least a bit of an upgrade in amount of dancing, so it should feel like some progress.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

I have a dancer who was a soldier for 3 years and is now a bunny- which is basically an advanced soldier. It was a rough night in our house

That's tough!

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

DP. I had a flower page last year there was no amount of spinning that could make my child see this role differently. We tried but this group is too old to fairy tale them out of it. She danced more as a Snow Angel and telling her otherwise just made her feel gaslit. I finally agreed with what she was saying but to be a sport and that helped turn her around.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

DP. I had a flower page last year there was no amount of spinning that could make my child see this role differently. We tried but this group is too old to fairy tale them out of it. She danced more as a Snow Angel and telling her otherwise just made her feel gaslit. I finally agreed with what she was saying but to be a sport and that helped turn her around.

What level(s) is/are dancing Flower Pages?

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

DP. I had a flower page last year there was no amount of spinning that could make my child see this role differently. We tried but this group is too old to fairy tale them out of it. She danced more as a Snow Angel and telling her otherwise just made her feel gaslit. I finally agreed with what she was saying but to be a sport and that helped turn her around.

What level(s) is/are dancing Flower Pages?

Level 2 & 3

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

DP. I had a flower page last year there was no amount of spinning that could make my child see this role differently. We tried but this group is too old to fairy tale them out of it. She danced more as a Snow Angel and telling her otherwise just made her feel gaslit. I finally agreed with what she was saying but to be a sport and that helped turn her around.

Yeah, I get this. I wish they could change the choreography a bit to make the role more appealing. Doesn’t seem like it would take much.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

DP. I had a flower page last year there was no amount of spinning that could make my child see this role differently. We tried but this group is too old to fairy tale them out of it. She danced more as a Snow Angel and telling her otherwise just made her feel gaslit. I finally agreed with what she was saying but to be a sport and that helped turn her around.

Fwiw, my DD was a mushroom last year and absolutely ADORED the flower pages in her cast. All she talked about after every rehearsal and every performance were the older flower page girls who were so kind and cool and how much she looked up to them. I volunteered backstage once, but honestly the pages had it all under control and my DD and her friends were happy to be with them. I know it says nothing about their dancing or on-stage role, but they made an impression on my daughter that she’ll never forget.

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Anonymous wrote:DD is devastated by her role. 3rd year in a row. Tough season ahead.

What is she?

Flower Page.

I’m sorry. That’s tough for a young girl. DD was a page, and it’s high visibility but boring. And you have to stay there the entire time on stage sitting on uncomfortable seats watching all the other kids have fun on stage. They should put a limit of two years that a kid can play a role.

I agree this is a tough one. ANY role at the third year for a child—in this context where they are all looking ahead to see what they can advance to—can be demotivating. Donna is a class act, I bet she could help you with a perspective to spin to your DD.

Yes, agreed. This is tough. The role seems great in many ways — the stage time, finale, etc — but also limiting. You could maybe liken it to Clara and the young Prince in some ways who end up watching a good bit of the show as well. I know they have more substantial dancing parts earlier on, but the latter part of the show they mostly observe. I’m sorry. I get it.

DP. I had a flower page last year there was no amount of spinning that could make my child see this role differently. We tried but this group is too old to fairy tale them out of it. She danced more as a Snow Angel and telling her otherwise just made her feel gaslit. I finally agreed with what she was saying but to be a sport and that helped turn her around.

Yeah, I get this. I wish they could change the choreography a bit to make the role more appealing. Doesn’t seem like it would take much.

I thought I heard maybe there were some choreography changes coming? Maybe Page will be one of them? DD has already memorized her choreography from previous years, so hopefully they don't change hers - but maybe good for page to change it up

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Anonymous wrote:Ours was a page last year and a bunny this year. Lots of tears last night. Had a long talk with her at 1 am because she couldn't sleep, she was feeling badly about herself. She had spent the weeks leading practicing the clown and butterfly dance and felt really good after the audition. Hard night. I do think she'll come around after this weekend.

I'm sorry for your kiddo.
I am sure she will come around when things get going.
Page to Bunny is at least a bit of an upgrade in amount of dancing, so it should feel like some progress.

Valley Forge Bunny is a good role! Good stage time and dancing and memorable!

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I feel like we can do so much as parents to just truly embrace and celebrate each role.
I think kids can tell if we are being less than genuine. Just embrace it all! Every role is awesome, is part of an amazing professional production.