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Anonymous wrote:So then there are at least three different ways summative retakes occur per fcps policy and then rogue teachers who do their own thing because no one in admin cares to stop them.

There are TWO ways retakes occur per fcps policy. If parents alert the admin about the "rogue teachers," then they can be corrected. Admin does care. If you feel that your child's school is not correctly following the policy, then you should elevate to FCPS central admin.

Is “alert the admin about the ‘rogue teachers,’” the same tip line as Youngkin’s tip line for reporting rogue teachers?

Obviously not.

If you just want to complain anonymously on DCUM, that is fine. But if you do have a legitimate problem with a teacher not following the FCPS retake policy correctly, then you should discuss the issue with the teacher, and then if needed, with the school admin or central admin.

But nothing happens. They just say each school gets to decide their own policy. People have tried this, and they just get the run around.

What teachers/schools are not following the 2 accepted methods? The stated policy is on the FCPS website. Schools must fillow it. Let's all be loud and work to fix this grading inequity this year.

Eliminating the retake policy is the best way to do this.

There was nothing wrong with the original retake policy. It was created to help students struggling learn without impacting high performers to a large degree. If you have a high schooler, you understand that most everyone applying has above a 3.5 and usually over a 4.0 around here. People with a 3.0 aren't competition. It may even help your high achiever if they bomb one test to get back on track and not slide into thinking they are stupid in a subject. So, if you retake and get an 80, it doesn't interfere with those applying to competitive colleges. What it does help with is learning the material and keeping kids on track to finish school and graduate, so we don't have dolts graduating high school and unable to function in the world. This is important because these are mandatory school years, and we want people to be able to be independent and make good decisions and understand the world. That's why SBG does not help these students. It doesn't help them actually learn the material they struggled with. Everything was fine with the grading till teachers decided to go rogue with no accountability and they introduced standards-based grading. FCPS just needs to enforce their own policy school by school and teacher by teacher.

Well said. The original retake policy with a maximum grade of 80% adds value. A retake policy beyond 80% and/or SBG are problematic for all students but especially the better students.

Very, very, very few FCPS high schools allow retakes above 80%. I know Mountain View Alternative HS allows students to retake up to 100%. Are there any others?

Lake Braddock allows up to 100

Oakton has one of two approaches, depending on the subject-team’s decision: retake a grade of less than a 90% to obtain a grade that can’t be higher than a 90% OR a retake regardless what the initial grade was, up to 100%.

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South Lakes allows it up to an 86% for the new grade.

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Lake Braddock goes to 100% on the retake.

Whomever said it’s rare…it’s not.

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So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

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Gotta love FCPS. They can't get their high schools on board with the same retake policy, so they introduce a third retake grading system I guess to make it ok to just do whatever you want.

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Madison does reassessments under the mumbo jumbo of equity grading, so I guess that is up to 100%.

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At our HS it depends on the department. Science retakes up to 80%, Social Studies up to 100%

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Anonymous wrote:At our HS it depends on the department. Science retakes up to 80%, Social Studies up to 100%

Which HS is this?

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Madison does reassessments under the mumbo jumbo of equity grading, so I guess that is up to 100%.

Luckily, SBG will go away for next school year and beyond.

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Madison does reassessments under the mumbo jumbo of equity grading, so I guess that is up to 100%.

Luckily, SBG will go away for next school year and beyond.

Really? where is that mentioned by FCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Madison does reassessments under the mumbo jumbo of equity grading, so I guess that is up to 100%.

Luckily, SBG will go away for next school year and beyond.

Really? where is that mentioned by FCPS?

On their website: https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-scale#:~:text=In%20the%202024%2D25%20school,4.0%20scale%20during%20this%20year.

Here is the quote if you do not want to click the link:

FCPS currently has two approved grading scales
the 4 point scale.
the 100-point scale.

In the 2024-25 school year, FCPS will transition to a single scale, the 100-point scale. The 2023-24 school year is a transition year, and no teams or teachers should be moving to the 4.0 scale during this year.

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^^^ This is only for high school. Elementary will continue to use standards based grading.

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Of course it’s not included in the school profile. Did you really think it would be?

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Of course it’s not included in the school profile. Did you really think it would be?

Actually, I spoke with my kids' counselor today, and they told me that they do mention it in their letter (not the school profile). They say something along the lines of... that even though Chantilly HS has a test retake policy, they use it very stringently (only up to 80%, only on major tests, etc) unlike some other FCPS high schools. So that is a pleasant surprise!

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Anonymous wrote:So we've got Lake Braddock, Mountain View Alternative, and Oakton that allow up to 100%. South Lakes allows up to an 86%. Any others?

My own kids are at Chantilly. They allow up to an 80% there. I have a senior applying to colleges this season, and I am going to ask their counselor if this type of information is included in the school profile that is sent to colleges. I must admit that I am surprised that Oakton allows up to 100%... I always considered them to be a high-performing, peer school of Chantilly's.

Madison does reassessments under the mumbo jumbo of equity grading, so I guess that is up to 100%.

Luckily, SBG will go away for next school year and beyond.

Really? where is that mentioned by FCPS?

On their website: https://www.fcps.edu/academics/grading-and-reporting/secondary/grading-scale#:~:text=In%20the%202024%2D25%20school,4.0%20scale%20during%20this%20year.

Here is the quote if you do not want to click the link:

FCPS currently has two approved grading scales
the 4 point scale.
the 100-point scale.

In the 2024-25 school year, FCPS will transition to a single scale, the 100-point scale. The 2023-24 school year is a transition year, and no teams or teachers should be moving to the 4.0 scale during this year.

I don't understand. Standards based grading is not the 4.0 scale. What you are mentioning is only the 4.0 scale. Standards based grading means that you are graded on "skills" or "standards" rather than assignments. Assignments and tests are broken into skill groups for grading. The civil war assessment might be broken up into a writing standard, a comprehension standard, an analysis standard, a creativity standard. FCPS also added some other criteria to their new standards based grading which do not need to be part of standards based grading but they did anyway. Only whole letter grades for assessments. This is just their new policy for grading probably because now each assessment gets multiple skill grades. They also did away with retakes and instead they replace old grades with the same grade that you get on the next assessment if you improve because you are improving on the skill. So if you take a civil war assessment and do poorly on analysis and get a C, but then take a reconstruction assessment and get a B on analysis, FCPS replaces your C from the previous test with a B. You don't actually retake the civil war assessment to have better analysis understanding of the civil war under this new grading system.