Thoughts on Ole Miss?

[Anonymous]

If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there. I'd wonder about them being racist but that's the same for most white people from the south. (I'm from Georgia)

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Anonymous wrote:“Unless she wants to stay in Mississippi, her diploma won't be worth very much to grad schools or prospective employers in other regions.“

Exactly. That’s why John Grisham is working at Burger King.

Burger King? Wow. Poor, unsuccessful man. He's doing better than I thought. I thought he was pushing a lawn mower somewhere.

He lives in Charlottesville now.

Wrong. Chapel Hill.

According to Wikipedia, he has homes in Charlottesville, Chapel Hill and Destin, FL, and splits times between all three.

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Anonymous wrote:I like how when people are discussing schools in the northeast, everybody screams that the college isn’t important, it’s what you do when you’re there. But get out past the usual subjects, & people claim you can’t possibly succeed from there,

It’s not an inconsistent position. If I were hiring a young person and they told me they went to Ole Miss from out of state, I would wonder why. If that same person went to a low-ranked school without a racist history, I would just assume it was the best school they could get into to (and no shade to that — if they did well there and made the best of it, I’d be impressed). I would not be impressed by someone CHOOSING to go to Ole Miss if it’s not their in state school.

Outside of HBCUs is there a college below the Mason-Dixon Line without some sort of racist history?

Just curious as to you line of reasoning/logic?

I suggest that pp look up the connections of schools like Brown and even Harvard to slavery and racism.

Here’s something to get you started: https://slaveryandjustice.brown.edu/

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/04/slavery-probe-harvards-ties-inseparable-from-rise/

And don’t forget Yale: https://news.yale.edu/2021/11/01/yale-publicly-confronts-historical-involvement-slavery

Was not stating that other schools do or don't have a past or present problem with racism. Just responding to PPs take that Ole Miss as a southern school with a racist history.

The implication was that only Southern states have this issue and the comment above was that pp would judge someone for going to a school with a “racist history,” which means there must be alternative schools without a “racist history.” The point is that *all* schools that have been in existence for any appreciable time have a racist history, including many Ivy League schools that have direct ties to slavery and the slave trade.

Really? Bringing up Harvard's racial history is a big ole "but what about..." Anyone with an ounce of sense can see the difference between the histories of the two schools. Ole Miss has a particularly nasty reputation when it comes to racial issues, and they didn't happen that long ago.

[Anonymous]

Fwiw I have had two employees work for me over the years from Old Miss and both were extremely sharp. I believe both were from Mississippi.

I will say my experience has been that that top students at pretty much every flagship state school are on par with grads I see from selective private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I like how when people are discussing schools in the northeast, everybody screams that the college isn’t important, it’s what you do when you’re there. But get out past the usual subjects, & people claim you can’t possibly succeed from there,

It’s not an inconsistent position. If I were hiring a young person and they told me they went to Ole Miss from out of state, I would wonder why. If that same person went to a low-ranked school without a racist history, I would just assume it was the best school they could get into to (and no shade to that — if they did well there and made the best of it, I’d be impressed). I would not be impressed by someone CHOOSING to go to Ole Miss if it’s not their in state school.

Outside of HBCUs is there a college below the Mason-Dixon Line without some sort of racist history?

Just curious as to you line of reasoning/logic?

I suggest that pp look up the connections of schools like Brown and even Harvard to slavery and racism.

Here’s something to get you started: https://slaveryandjustice.brown.edu/

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/04/slavery-probe-harvards-ties-inseparable-from-rise/

And don’t forget Yale: https://news.yale.edu/2021/11/01/yale-publicly-confronts-historical-involvement-slavery

Was not stating that other schools do or don't have a past or present problem with racism. Just responding to PPs take that Ole Miss as a southern school with a racist history.

The implication was that only Southern states have this issue and the comment above was that pp would judge someone for going to a school with a “racist history,” which means there must be alternative schools without a “racist history.” The point is that *all* schools that have been in existence for any appreciable time have a racist history, including many Ivy League schools that have direct ties to slavery and the slave trade.

Really? Bringing up Harvard's racial history is a big ole "but what about..." Anyone with an ounce of sense can see the difference between the histories of the two schools. Ole Miss has a particularly nasty reputation when it comes to racial issues, and they didn't happen that long ago.

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It's true that most schools have a racist history, but not all schools are created equal in this regard.

https://hechingerreport.org/university-grapples-links-slavery-racism/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fwiw I have had two employees work for me over the years from Old Miss and both were extremely sharp. I believe both were from Mississippi.

I will say my experience has been that that top students at pretty much every flagship state school are on par with grads I see from selective private schools.

Where are you that you even know two people from Mississippi? I have only met two in my life, and they were doubled only because they were married to each other.

Granted, they went to "Ole Miss" and were competent people. I wouldn't say extremely sharp, but one of them held a professional job and didn't drool.

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Anonymous wrote:If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there. I'd wonder about them being racist but that's the same for most white people from the south. (I'm from Georgia)

12.6 percent African Americans
4.05 percent Hispanic
2.44 percent Asian
1 percent other (Native American and other)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there. I'd wonder about them being racist but that's the same for most white people from the south. (I'm from Georgia)

12.6 percent African Americans
4.05 percent Hispanic
2.44 percent Asian
1 percent other (Native American and other)

What is your point here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there. I'd wonder about them being racist but that's the same for most white people from the south. (I'm from Georgia)

Wow, stereotype much?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD (born and raised in DMV) has recently had her heart set on going to school in the south, particularly Ole Miss.

I have some reservations about letting her go there, but have been assured it is a good school. Would it be a poor choice to pay OOS tuition to send her there?

My thought is no way I'd send my DD to Mississippi. I"m sure it has it's lovely parts and people but that is a hard no from her parents.

Depends upon one's options and upon what one is seeking.

We are seeking a place that will be welcoming to all, and understanding my DD is a human being with inherent rights to her own body (among other things). And while there is def a negative racial history to many places and schools, Mississippi is a step to far for us.

I don't care who approves of these reasons, likes them, etc. Not hear to argue them. It's just not an option for us.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD (born and raised in DMV) has recently had her heart set on going to school in the south, particularly Ole Miss.

I have some reservations about letting her go there, but have been assured it is a good school. Would it be a poor choice to pay OOS tuition to send her there?

My thought is no way I'd send my DD to Mississippi. I"m sure it has it's lovely parts and people but that is a hard no from her parents.

Depends upon one's options and upon what one is seeking.

We are seeking a place that will be welcoming to all, and understanding my DD is a human being with inherent rights to her own body (among other things). And while there is def a negative racial history to many places and schools, Mississippi is a step to far for us.

I don't care who approves of these reasons, likes them, etc. Not hear to argue them. It's just not an option for us.

What does this word salad even mean? If you're into social justice and equity, which is what I think you're saying, it's hilarious you'll avoid a poor, black state because...something something something. Like, the funniest thing I've heard today. I guess it's an easy explanation to give your rich, white friends and allows you to avoid slumming with minorities.

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Anonymous wrote:If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there. I'd wonder about them being racist but that's the same for most white people from the south. (I'm from Georgia)

Wow, stereotype much?

No?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there. I'd wonder about them being racist but that's the same for most white people from the south. (I'm from Georgia)

You lose all credibility when you say most white people from the south are racists. (I'm from Georgia, too.)

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Anonymous wrote:Fwiw I have had two employees work for me over the years from Old Miss and both were extremely sharp. I believe both were from Mississippi.

I will say my experience has been that that top students at pretty much every flagship state school are on par with grads I see from selective private schools.

Where are you that you even know two people from Mississippi? I have only met two in my life, and they were doubled only because they were married to each other.

Granted, they went to "Ole Miss" and were competent people. I wouldn't say extremely sharp, but one of them held a professional job and didn't drool.

DP You'll find many in Big 4 accounting firms and and in the FBI.

[Anonymous]

“If she wants it, whatever, it's fine. And I would not look down on somebody who went there.“

You would probably even be ok with your child going to Cornell, wouldn’t you? Pardon ME if I have standards. Sniff.