Thoughts on Ole Miss?

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Anonymous wrote:Watch “Bama Rush” on (HBO) Max. Although it’s not about Mississippi, MS is always subtlety worse than the Alabama. If THAT is the kind of school you want your DD going to, that’s your choice. If you are a modern, first world person, I highly doubt you would consider paying to send a young woman there.

I went to a big football school in the south (UF), and at large universities, there are so many people who aren’t part of that culture. I would say that the town as a whole can get pretty excited about championship games and big events like that, but the number of people actually participating in that football party culture, or Greek life in general, is relatively pretty small. I think one of the benefits of a large state school is that there are many options, both course of study and socially.

Ok, but say a lower tier state school is all your kid can into? What's wrong with that?

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Anonymous wrote:I like how when people are discussing schools in the northeast, everybody screams that the college isn’t important, it’s what you do when you’re there. But get out past the usual subjects, & people claim you can’t possibly succeed from there,

It’s not an inconsistent position. If I were hiring a young person and they told me they went to Ole Miss from out of state, I would wonder why. If that same person went to a low-ranked school without a racist history, I would just assume it was the best school they could get into to (and no shade to that — if they did well there and made the best of it, I’d be impressed). I would not be impressed by someone CHOOSING to go to Ole Miss if it’s not their in state school.

Outside of HBCUs is there a college below the Mason-Dixon Line without some sort of racist history?

Just curious as to you line of reasoning/logic?

I suggest that pp look up the connections of schools like Brown and even Harvard to slavery and racism.

Here’s something to get you started: https://slaveryandjustice.brown.edu/

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/04/slavery-probe-harvards-ties-inseparable-from-rise/

And don’t forget Yale: https://news.yale.edu/2021/11/01/yale-publicly-confronts-historical-involvement-slavery

Was not stating that other schools do or don't have a past or present problem with racism. Just responding to PPs take that Ole Miss as a southern school with a racist history.

The implication was that only Southern states have this issue and the comment above was that pp would judge someone for going to a school with a “racist history,” which means there must be alternative schools without a “racist history.” The point is that *all* schools that have been in existence for any appreciable time have a racist history, including many Ivy League schools that have direct ties to slavery and the slave trade.

Political Analyst James Carville describes the state of Pennsylvania as:

Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other side, and Alabama in-between.

Penn State is located in the geographic center of the state.

Also, anyone who thinks that The South is the hotbed of racism in this country hasn't been to Idaho.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like how when people are discussing schools in the northeast, everybody screams that the college isn’t important, it’s what you do when you’re there. But get out past the usual subjects, & people claim you can’t possibly succeed from there,

It’s not an inconsistent position. If I were hiring a young person and they told me they went to Ole Miss from out of state, I would wonder why. If that same person went to a low-ranked school without a racist history, I would just assume it was the best school they could get into to (and no shade to that — if they did well there and made the best of it, I’d be impressed). I would not be impressed by someone CHOOSING to go to Ole Miss if it’s not there in state school.

There is no need to work for employers that are judgmental.

They're all judgmental, sorry.

You’ve witnessed bad cultures, sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch “Bama Rush” on (HBO) Max. Although it’s not about Mississippi, MS is always subtlety worse than the Alabama. If THAT is the kind of school you want your DD going to, that’s your choice. If you are a modern, first world person, I highly doubt you would consider paying to send a young woman there.

I went to a big football school in the south (UF), and at large universities, there are so many people who aren’t part of that culture. I would say that the town as a whole can get pretty excited about championship games and big events like that, but the number of people actually participating in that football party culture, or Greek life in general, is relatively pretty small. I think one of the benefits of a large state school is that there are many options, both course of study and socially.

Ok, but say a lower tier state school is all your kid can into? What's wrong with that?

Nothing? I wasn’t talking about that at all.

[Anonymous]

Ole Miss is a good ole boy school that is now popular bc of TikTok. I am from the South and you used to just need a pulse to get in. I would not let my kids apply there.

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Anonymous wrote:I like how when people are discussing schools in the northeast, everybody screams that the college isn’t important, it’s what you do when you’re there. But get out past the usual subjects, & people claim you can’t possibly succeed from there,

It’s not an inconsistent position. If I were hiring a young person and they told me they went to Ole Miss from out of state, I would wonder why. If that same person went to a low-ranked school without a racist history, I would just assume it was the best school they could get into to (and no shade to that — if they did well there and made the best of it, I’d be impressed). I would not be impressed by someone CHOOSING to go to Ole Miss if it’s not their in state school.

Outside of HBCUs is there a college below the Mason-Dixon Line without some sort of racist history?

Just curious as to you line of reasoning/logic?

I suggest that pp look up the connections of schools like Brown and even Harvard to slavery and racism.

Here’s something to get you started: https://slaveryandjustice.brown.edu/

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/04/slavery-probe-harvards-ties-inseparable-from-rise/

And don’t forget Yale: https://news.yale.edu/2021/11/01/yale-publicly-confronts-historical-involvement-slavery

Was not stating that other schools do or don't have a past or present problem with racism. Just responding to PPs take that Ole Miss as a southern school with a racist history.

The implication was that only Southern states have this issue and the comment above was that pp would judge someone for going to a school with a “racist history,” which means there must be alternative schools without a “racist history.” The point is that *all* schools that have been in existence for any appreciable time have a racist history, including many Ivy League schools that have direct ties to slavery and the slave trade.

Political Analyst James Carville describes the state of Pennsylvania as:

Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other side, and Alabama in-between.

Penn State is located in the geographic center of the state.

Also, anyone who thinks that The South is the hotbed of racism in this country hasn't been to Idaho.

Plus, rural Colorado is very conservative and not friendly to all races.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch “Bama Rush” on (HBO) Max. Although it’s not about Mississippi, MS is always subtlety worse than the Alabama. If THAT is the kind of school you want your DD going to, that’s your choice. If you are a modern, first world person, I highly doubt you would consider paying to send a young woman there.

I went to a big football school in the south (UF), and at large universities, there are so many people who aren’t part of that culture. I would say that the town as a whole can get pretty excited about championship games and big events like that, but the number of people actually participating in that football party culture, or Greek life in general, is relatively pretty small. I think one of the benefits of a large state school is that there are many options, both course of study and socially.

Ok, but say a lower tier state school is all your kid can into? What's wrong with that?

Nothing? I wasn’t talking about that at all.

Sorry, was replying to the PP you were replying to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Unless she wants to stay in Mississippi, her diploma won't be worth very much to grad schools or prospective employers in other regions.“

Exactly. That’s why John Grisham is working at Burger King.

Burger King? Wow. Poor, unsuccessful man. He's doing better than I thought. I thought he was pushing a lawn mower somewhere.

He lives in Charlottesville now.

Wrong. Chapel Hill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD (born and raised in DMV) has recently had her heart set on going to school in the south, particularly Ole Miss.

I have some reservations about letting her go there, but have been assured it is a good school. Would it be a poor choice to pay OOS tuition to send her there?

My thought is no way I'd send my DD to Mississippi. I"m sure it has it's lovely parts and people but that is a hard no from her parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD (born and raised in DMV) has recently had her heart set on going to school in the south, particularly Ole Miss.

I have some reservations about letting her go there, but have been assured it is a good school. Would it be a poor choice to pay OOS tuition to send her there?

My thought is no way I'd send my DD to Mississippi. I"m sure it has it's lovely parts and people but that is a hard no from her parents.

Depends upon one's options and upon what one is seeking.

[Anonymous]

Why would anyone with other options move to Mississippi on purpose?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone with other options move to Mississippi on purpose?

Read the thread

[Anonymous]

I'm embarrassed for all the negative comments about the school. Since test optional became a reality (which I think is a really great thing & step in the right direction), it's harder than ever to get into college. No university is for everyone but I have NEVER seen such unkind comments made about a school before. Seriously, can we all be a little kinder and more understanding? The judgement against this school on this thread which in my opinion qualifies as bigotry ("obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group." Oxford dictionary) is deeply upsetting. And, I might add those who live in DC do NOT have an in-state option..

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Anonymous wrote:I'm embarrassed for all the negative comments about the school. Since test optional became a reality (which I think is a really great thing & step in the right direction), it's harder than ever to get into college.

Many posters here wouldn’t get accepted to a Top150 school nowadays - but they expect their children to attend Ivy League+ schools… big state schools are for “losers”…

Honestly, I understand that major elite schools (not just Ivies but also schools like ND, USC, Duke, etc) have so much appeal but I don’t understand the obsession with LACs (except for the top 5 LACs maybe). I would rather attend a big state school with all its brand power. Some of these universities even have global brand power…

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Anonymous wrote:I'm embarrassed for all the negative comments about the school. Since test optional became a reality (which I think is a really great thing & step in the right direction), it's harder than ever to get into college.

Many posters here wouldn’t get accepted to a Top150 school nowadays - but they expect their children to attend Ivy League+ schools… big state schools are for “losers”…

Honestly, I understand that major elite schools (not just Ivies but also schools like ND, USC, Duke, etc) have so much appeal but I don’t understand the obsession with LACs (except for the top 5 LACs maybe). I would rather attend a big state school with all its brand power. Some of these universities even have global brand power…

People aren’t commenting that the big state schools are for losers. These comments are about Ole Miss not Chapel Hill or UMCP.