Swim Team Drama

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like a CRE developer who ran for the board last year is now suing the pool. Docket CL23001682. Wish I could see the filing

Ding ding ding. The brainiacs hired a real estate lawyer 🤦‍♀️

Plaintiff has been in the news before

https://wjla.com/news/local/youre-ignoring-us-arlington-families-speak-out-against-proposed-school-reassignments

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At least they made their agenda clear .. https://dominionhills.org/66th_annual_meeting/2022-bod-candidate-bios/

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. This makes me really glad I’m not at some of your pools. Our mcsl pool is a lovely experience with everyone pitching in and the high schools coaches are phenomenal with the kids.

Ha, same here. I wonder if I'm just oblivious to the drama or if my pool was drama free. As far as I could tell, it was all around great swim season, great coaching and nearly all of the kids enjoyed it. There are a few parents who take swimming way too seriously, but I tune that part out mostly.

Ha! Same here.

My kid enjoyed summer swim so much that we decided to try out for year round club swim. THAT was the first time I saw parents going insane. There were kids crying and it felt like another world. Maybe it was because nobody knew each other so there’s no social pressure to have a filter? Or maybe all those parents at tryouts belong to drama filled summer teams?

Without a doubt the parents who take swimming too seriously are also a part of the year round swim. However, my kid still enjoys the indoor swimming and I like working at those meets but it is a different vibe than summer for sure.

I actually find the year round meets much more relaxed. I think it's because kids get to swim all their events in every meet. In summer swim, kids can get bumped from "their" event by a friend or their coach can randomly put them in an event they'd rather not swim and are the #3 seed behind two teammates instead of in an event they could have won. That dynamic is a recipe for drama that you don't have in winter.

Agree winter swim seems much more focused on swimming and the structure (with kids picking their events and clear criteria for meets) just seems less drama inducing. Plus it is less social for parents with more reasonable volunteer requirements), which also cuts down on the drama. My family all decided we didn't like the drama of summer swim so now skip it but still do winter swim.

What do you all think High School swimming is going to be like? It's the same scenario. As are college meets. The coach puts the best line up in that they can. Sorry if that means your kid sits out or swims events they don't like.

Wait, I thought summer swim was just for fun. Now you're saying it's preparing 8&u's for college swim meets.

Ha! We have parents like that too. This is summer swim. It's all about fun. This is not training for the Olympics and your kid is not going to a D1 school. These parents need a life.

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the season is over with all stars remaining, what kind of drama did you have this summer with your swim team?

We had parents very upset that times from the last B meet were not used for the Divisional lineups. The divisional lineup was already set before the last B Meet.

If that was the case then parents and swimmers should have been informed of this ahead of time. It seem odd that B meet times all count, but that one doesn't. Sure it cuts it close but there is still time.

B times count for A meets, but only A meets count for Divisionals.

Depends on your team and your league. NVSL has no rules on what times can be used for divisional entries. Teams can enter a kid in an event without a time.

You can enter a kid without a time but for seeding purposes you must use an A meet time.

Then how do kids get IM entries?

The same way as any other event. What does that question even mean??

No IM at A meets in NVSL, but it is an event at Divisionals. I believe coaches can use B meet times for seeding at Divisionals.

Yes, in the NVSL they can use B times.

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Anonymous wrote:At least they made their agenda clear .. https://dominionhills.org/66th_annual_meeting/2022-bod-candidate-bios/

Wow. Reading those bios it seems like a different world from where we are. Just the fact that they have numerous candidates for their board and even have bios written up is different.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. This makes me really glad I’m not at some of your pools. Our mcsl pool is a lovely experience with everyone pitching in and the high schools coaches are phenomenal with the kids.

Ha, same here. I wonder if I'm just oblivious to the drama or if my pool was drama free. As far as I could tell, it was all around great swim season, great coaching and nearly all of the kids enjoyed it. There are a few parents who take swimming way too seriously, but I tune that part out mostly.

Ha! Same here.

My kid enjoyed summer swim so much that we decided to try out for year round club swim. THAT was the first time I saw parents going insane. There were kids crying and it felt like another world. Maybe it was because nobody knew each other so there’s no social pressure to have a filter? Or maybe all those parents at tryouts belong to drama filled summer teams?

Without a doubt the parents who take swimming too seriously are also a part of the year round swim. However, my kid still enjoys the indoor swimming and I like working at those meets but it is a different vibe than summer for sure.

I actually find the year round meets much more relaxed. I think it's because kids get to swim all their events in every meet. In summer swim, kids can get bumped from "their" event by a friend or their coach can randomly put them in an event they'd rather not swim and are the #3 seed behind two teammates instead of in an event they could have won. That dynamic is a recipe for drama that you don't have in winter.

Agree winter swim seems much more focused on swimming and the structure (with kids picking their events and clear criteria for meets) just seems less drama inducing. Plus it is less social for parents with more reasonable volunteer requirements), which also cuts down on the drama. My family all decided we didn't like the drama of summer swim so now skip it but still do winter swim.

What do you all think High School swimming is going to be like? It's the same scenario. As are college meets. The coach puts the best line up in that they can. Sorry if that means your kid sits out or swims events they don't like.

My kid is a solid swimmer for his winter swim team but isn't a star and doesn't care about swimming in high school or college. He does it for exercise, to push himself and to be with his friends. He doesn't need drama of summer swim so instead goes to fun summer camps that are not compatible with summer swim.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. This makes me really glad I’m not at some of your pools. Our mcsl pool is a lovely experience with everyone pitching in and the high schools coaches are phenomenal with the kids.

Ha, same here. I wonder if I'm just oblivious to the drama or if my pool was drama free. As far as I could tell, it was all around great swim season, great coaching and nearly all of the kids enjoyed it. There are a few parents who take swimming way too seriously, but I tune that part out mostly.

Ha! Same here.

My kid enjoyed summer swim so much that we decided to try out for year round club swim. THAT was the first time I saw parents going insane. There were kids crying and it felt like another world. Maybe it was because nobody knew each other so there’s no social pressure to have a filter? Or maybe all those parents at tryouts belong to drama filled summer teams?

Without a doubt the parents who take swimming too seriously are also a part of the year round swim. However, my kid still enjoys the indoor swimming and I like working at those meets but it is a different vibe than summer for sure.

I actually find the year round meets much more relaxed. I think it's because kids get to swim all their events in every meet. In summer swim, kids can get bumped from "their" event by a friend or their coach can randomly put them in an event they'd rather not swim and are the #3 seed behind two teammates instead of in an event they could have won. That dynamic is a recipe for drama that you don't have in winter.

Agree winter swim seems much more focused on swimming and the structure (with kids picking their events and clear criteria for meets) just seems less drama inducing. Plus it is less social for parents with more reasonable volunteer requirements), which also cuts down on the drama. My family all decided we didn't like the drama of summer swim so now skip it but still do winter swim.

What do you all think High School swimming is going to be like? It's the same scenario. As are college meets. The coach puts the best line up in that they can. Sorry if that means your kid sits out or swims events they don't like.

Wait, I thought summer swim was just for fun. Now you're saying it's preparing 8&u's for college swim meets.

Ha! We have parents like that too. This is summer swim. It's all about fun. This is not training for the Olympics and your kid is not going to a D1 school. These parents need a life.

There are two kinds of parents: the ones who want the fastest kids to swim in the events that will help the team win, and the parents that say they don’t care about winning but want their kids to get some of the glory even when they don’t earn it. The second category is worse IMO.

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Married coach sleeping with married assistant coach.

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Anonymous wrote:Married coach sleeping with married assistant coach.

Oh snap!

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NVSL or MCSL?

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Anonymous wrote:At least they made their agenda clear .. https://dominionhills.org/66th_annual_meeting/2022-bod-candidate-bios/

Wow. Reading those bios it seems like a different world from where we are. Just the fact that they have numerous candidates for their board and even have bios written up is different.

Wow is right. I’m crawling back into my cave of oblivion.

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Anonymous wrote:At least they made their agenda clear .. https://dominionhills.org/66th_annual_meeting/2022-bod-candidate-bios/

Locals help me out- I thought ENSCO was in Springfield. Is this something else?

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Parents complaining that their kid didn’t swim “X” stroke, parents telling the coach that their kid was VERY DISAPPOINTED that they didn’t make it to divisionals.

Otherwise it was a fun season.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents complaining that their kid didn’t swim “X” stroke, parents telling the coach that their kid was VERY DISAPPOINTED that they didn’t make it to divisionals.

Otherwise it was a fun season.

We had a parent who was “SO disappointed” about an award situation that she wrote and sent a multi-paragraph email while the end of season picnic was still happening.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like a CRE developer who ran for the board last year is now suing the pool. Docket CL23001682. Wish I could see the filing

I cannot pull anything with that docket number? Arlington civil case - who are the parties?