There are many shades of CCRA echoing through this thread.... |
The actual rule for MCSL divisionals is: A team may enter a swimmer in a maximum of five events. A team cannot enter a swimmer in all four individual stroke events (freestyle, backstroke, breaststroke and butterfly So, essentially the real life max is 3 individuals, IM, and then ONE of the relays. It is very unlikely the relays overlap since the end meet graduated relay is one 8U, one 9-10, one 11-12, and one 13-14 and the halftime medley relay is open, so it's almost always from the 15-18 group. I suppose if you had some crazy fast 14 year old that would throw off the calculations, and then they could do both relays, and then either 3 strokes OR 2 strokes and IM. |
We had a great season, no drama, lots of close knit friends, go Division D! |
You are lucky. Our coaches awards didn't go to the kids who won or trying the hardest or most improved, it went to the team rep kids and a few who didn't do much of anything and none of those kids came for most of the practices or meets and complained and argued with the coaches the entire time. We have huge favoritism and it's not to the winning kids. I suspect if they keep up the behavior some of the families will leave. |
3 individuals plus IM is four strokes. In NVSL, swimmers are capped at two for divisionals (including IM). It seems like a great thing for small teams and a not so good think for kids on large teams who aren't at the top of their age groups |
Are all these posts about county pool swim teams? Or country club swimming also? |
Any pool with a team that participates. |
NVSL is only private member-only pools. I have no idea about county pools as there are no outdoor county pools that I’m aware of. |
Country Club is a different league |
We do both MCSL and CCSDA and there is drama in both leagues. It’s sad because the kids don’t even know. They are just having fun. Parents are jerks and the ruin everything good for them. |
Starters are not trained to be "consistent." They are trained to respond to the swimmers. Quick starts aren't necessarily fair starts (if the field isn't coming to set). If your starter was slow, it's because the field wasn't coming to set. If the starter gives the starting signal too quickly with a field that is not coming to set, you are going to have many more false starts. Stand commands often save kids from being DQ'ed for false starts, and so you're lucky you had a starter that was trying to avoid false starts. I'm PVS-certified as a starter (which requires hundreds and hundreds of starts before nationally certified officials). I've been around a lot of summer pools. NVSL/MCSL requires only a two hour class, and many summer starters are horrible. A kid that jumps in response to the stand command is not disqualified. If the swimmer is moving and cannot regain his or her balance and falls in after the start command is given is disqualified. There are many US Swimming scenarios describing this clearly. As someone who has been starting for years and has been repeatedly evaluated, I can tell you starting is not as easy at it looks. I didn't see the meet you are describing, but it sounds to me like you don't understand the rules of swimming. Perhaps you should take the starter course. |
+1. You could have said that about the starter at our Divisionals, but then you weren't closely watching the kids. I'm a team rep and we were all commenting on what a good job he was doing being responsive to what was happening. A lot of them had the yips and were having trouble getting set, even in the older age groups. He did everything he could to ensure there weren't any false starts and in at least one event had them stand 2 or 3 times because one or more kids were still wiggling. |
Such as? |
Enlighten me, what is CCRA? |
Division 1 Chevy Chase Rec, right? |