Woman missing after reporting seeing a toddler on the highway

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Anonymous wrote:If you watch the video that’s not zoomed in, she drives with her hazards on a long way before stopping. Long enough that it doesn’t make sense she saw and was talking to a toddler. Seems like whoever abducted her was already with her when she pulled over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwKSqzeipaI

PP above said that initially she could’ve seen an adult sitting in the grass. Maybe that’s why she slowly drove by with her hazards.

Did you watch it? It doesn’t seem plausible that she saw something that far away when it was so dark.

Yes, I watched it. I’m going on the theory that it was her second time around.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM armchair detectives have way too much time on their hands (looking up traffic cam videos, aerial views, Reddit, average income of Hoover, AL, etc).

They are getting it all from Websleuths. THOSE people have too much time on their hands. Its clear some of them literally spend hours a day websleuthing.

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Anonymous wrote:it really makes no sense that a bad person would use a child to trap a random female passerbye. The odds are overwhelming that a man or even an police officer would have been the one to stop help the kid. What would the bad person do then? Ah, "nothing going on here officer. Just lost my toddler in the woods adjacent to a freeway"

I've read elsewhere that maybe she just unfortunately stumbled upon a trafficked child or some other criminal activity and thus had to be "removed" because she was a witness.

This is such a freaky case.

I was buying the trap theory, but you’re right, PP. It doesn’t seem logical.

I guess she ran into something bad and was attacked as a result. I still think she saw a child, so was a child being abused or something?

I agree this makes more sense.

Eh but no other motorists reported a child. No traffic cams picked up movement other than cars and, allegedly, her car on the shoulder. (and not the perpetrators car either).

So no perpetrator's car? Are there houses nearby? A deep culvert or drainage area for someone creepy to hide/live in?

No other motorists reported a child, but her family member on the phone said they heard Carlee ask “are you okay?” Assuming she wasn’t on drugs/hallucinating, it seems like there really was a child she was talking to.

It’s possible a child escaped a trafficking endeavor and she came across it. That would be my best guess. It’s not completely unbelievable that no one else saw the child since it was a highway at night. I know I’m not always paying attention to the side of the roadway. Other drivers could have been paying attention to all the cars around them, their passengers, the radio, etc. and at night a small child on the side of the road isn’t necessarily going to be super easy to spot. Ugh my stomach is in knots over this, I cannot imagine what her friends and family are going through. She looks like a sweet girl. Nursing student willing to stop for a child, so she’s likely a caring person. This is so unfair.

I can’t figure drugs into the timeline she’s leaving work, getting dinner, doing hallucinatory drugs and driving home one exit away from her own? It wouldn’t make sense to do the drugs before getting home. Are people thinking she was doing hallucinogenic drugs at work? It was in her food?

Her being one exit away, with her exit visible makes me think she was that close to home.

Not PP, but when I first heard the details I thought one possible explanation could be that she was having a mental break and imagined/hallucinated that she saw a child, then went off into the woods on her own. I think the only other possibilities are that she stumbled onto a dangerous situation and was abducted, or that this is staged. Of those three possibilities it seems most likely she was abducted.

I didn't see that anyone else has been this blunt, but I've wondered this, too. The items she usually wore being neatly tucked away in her purse, even moreso than the happenstance of being on the phone. I don't know. I actually hope it was staged, because that would mean she was safe.

Why would anyone stage this? Not saying it’s out of the question (and it would make sense as to how she was able to pull over vs. driving past and needing to turn around). But I don’t know why anyone would do this? Fake abduction to get money? Attention? Maybe. But it seems so out there. This whole thing is weird.

I don't know. I also don't want to speculate about why the person making the police statement refused to comment on her mental and physical health status, not even a passing comment that she was "perfectly healthy" or something.

But a lot of this doesn't make sense. The tight timeline with police arrival just 3 minutes later but with the wig off, the watch in the purse, no visible signs of her present, etc., doesn't make sense. The timeline but with the trucker eyewitness story doesn't make sense. It's all extraordinarily shocking to hear about at first, but the details don't add up in any parsable way.

I don't know. People will have to wait and see. I hope she's okay, apart from how it happened. Whatever happened, if she is safe somewhere, then the rest can be sorted out with whatever justice to anyone that harmed her.

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Anonymous wrote:If you watch the video that’s not zoomed in, she drives with her hazards on a long way before stopping. Long enough that it doesn’t make sense she saw and was talking to a toddler. Seems like whoever abducted her was already with her when she pulled over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwKSqzeipaI

PP above said that initially she could’ve seen an adult sitting in the grass. Maybe that’s why she slowly drove by with her hazards.

Did you watch it? It doesn’t seem plausible that she saw something that far away when it was so dark.

Yes, I watched it. I’m going on the theory that it was her second time around.

Possible, I guess, but doesn’t look that easy to just loop around in that area.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM armchair detectives have way too much time on their hands (looking up traffic cam videos, aerial views, Reddit, average income of Hoover, AL, etc).

They are getting it all from Websleuths. THOSE people have too much time on their hands. Its clear some of them literally spend hours a day websleuthing.

Allow me to introduce you to the 30 second Google search.

I spent part of my time growing up in Mountain Brook, and I know Hoover. Worked there as a teenager. The actual numbers are easy to find -- you don't have to dust off the card catalogue anymore, you know.

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I wonder if she happened upon something else unfortunate (domestic violence w the toddler running away from it, parental kidnapping, child trafficking), and she was harmed to keep her from telling about it. I hope she is ok.

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Anonymous wrote:it really makes no sense that a bad person would use a child to trap a random female passerbye. The odds are overwhelming that a man or even an police officer would have been the one to stop help the kid. What would the bad person do then? Ah, "nothing going on here officer. Just lost my toddler in the woods adjacent to a freeway"

I've read elsewhere that maybe she just unfortunately stumbled upon a trafficked child or some other criminal activity and thus had to be "removed" because she was a witness.

This is such a freaky case.

I was buying the trap theory, but you’re right, PP. It doesn’t seem logical.

I guess she ran into something bad and was attacked as a result. I still think she saw a child, so was a child being abused or something?

I agree this makes more sense.

Eh but no other motorists reported a child. No traffic cams picked up movement other than cars and, allegedly, her car on the shoulder. (and not the perpetrators car either).

So no perpetrator's car? Are there houses nearby? A deep culvert or drainage area for someone creepy to hide/live in?

No other motorists reported a child, but her family member on the phone said they heard Carlee ask “are you okay?” Assuming she wasn’t on drugs/hallucinating, it seems like there really was a child she was talking to.

It’s possible a child escaped a trafficking endeavor and she came across it. That would be my best guess. It’s not completely unbelievable that no one else saw the child since it was a highway at night. I know I’m not always paying attention to the side of the roadway. Other drivers could have been paying attention to all the cars around them, their passengers, the radio, etc. and at night a small child on the side of the road isn’t necessarily going to be super easy to spot. Ugh my stomach is in knots over this, I cannot imagine what her friends and family are going through. She looks like a sweet girl. Nursing student willing to stop for a child, so she’s likely a caring person. This is so unfair.

I can’t figure drugs into the timeline she’s leaving work, getting dinner, doing hallucinatory drugs and driving home one exit away from her own? It wouldn’t make sense to do the drugs before getting home. Are people thinking she was doing hallucinogenic drugs at work? It was in her food?

Her being one exit away, with her exit visible makes me think she was that close to home.

Not PP, but when I first heard the details I thought one possible explanation could be that she was having a mental break and imagined/hallucinated that she saw a child, then went off into the woods on her own. I think the only other possibilities are that she stumbled onto a dangerous situation and was abducted, or that this is staged. Of those three possibilities it seems most likely she was abducted.

I didn't see that anyone else has been this blunt, but I've wondered this, too. The items she usually wore being neatly tucked away in her purse, even moreso than the happenstance of being on the phone. I don't know. I actually hope it was staged, because that would mean she was safe.

Why would anyone stage this? Not saying it’s out of the question (and it would make sense as to how she was able to pull over vs. driving past and needing to turn around). But I don’t know why anyone would do this? Fake abduction to get money? Attention? Maybe. But it seems so out there. This whole thing is weird.

I don't know. I also don't want to speculate about why the person making the police statement refused to comment on her mental and physical health status, not even a passing comment that she was "perfectly healthy" or something.

But a lot of this doesn't make sense. The tight timeline with police arrival just 3 minutes later but with the wig off, the watch in the purse, no visible signs of her present, etc., doesn't make sense. The timeline but with the trucker eyewitness story doesn't make sense. It's all extraordinarily shocking to hear about at first, but the details don't add up in any parsable way.

I don't know. People will have to wait and see. I hope she's okay, apart from how it happened. Whatever happened, if she is safe somewhere, then the rest can be sorted out with whatever justice to anyone that harmed her.

I don’t understand you people who think she staged this. How in the hell would she have gotten away? On foot? No one’s seen her since?

This was not staged, FFS.

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Anonymous wrote:it really makes no sense that a bad person would use a child to trap a random female passerbye. The odds are overwhelming that a man or even an police officer would have been the one to stop help the kid. What would the bad person do then? Ah, "nothing going on here officer. Just lost my toddler in the woods adjacent to a freeway"

I've read elsewhere that maybe she just unfortunately stumbled upon a trafficked child or some other criminal activity and thus had to be "removed" because she was a witness.

This is such a freaky case.

I was buying the trap theory, but you’re right, PP. It doesn’t seem logical.

I guess she ran into something bad and was attacked as a result. I still think she saw a child, so was a child being abused or something?

I agree this makes more sense.

Eh but no other motorists reported a child. No traffic cams picked up movement other than cars and, allegedly, her car on the shoulder. (and not the perpetrators car either).

So no perpetrator's car? Are there houses nearby? A deep culvert or drainage area for someone creepy to hide/live in?

No other motorists reported a child, but her family member on the phone said they heard Carlee ask “are you okay?” Assuming she wasn’t on drugs/hallucinating, it seems like there really was a child she was talking to.

It’s possible a child escaped a trafficking endeavor and she came across it. That would be my best guess. It’s not completely unbelievable that no one else saw the child since it was a highway at night. I know I’m not always paying attention to the side of the roadway. Other drivers could have been paying attention to all the cars around them, their passengers, the radio, etc. and at night a small child on the side of the road isn’t necessarily going to be super easy to spot. Ugh my stomach is in knots over this, I cannot imagine what her friends and family are going through. She looks like a sweet girl. Nursing student willing to stop for a child, so she’s likely a caring person. This is so unfair.

I can’t figure drugs into the timeline she’s leaving work, getting dinner, doing hallucinatory drugs and driving home one exit away from her own? It wouldn’t make sense to do the drugs before getting home. Are people thinking she was doing hallucinogenic drugs at work? It was in her food?

Her being one exit away, with her exit visible makes me think she was that close to home.

Not PP, but when I first heard the details I thought one possible explanation could be that she was having a mental break and imagined/hallucinated that she saw a child, then went off into the woods on her own. I think the only other possibilities are that she stumbled onto a dangerous situation and was abducted, or that this is staged. Of those three possibilities it seems most likely she was abducted.

I didn't see that anyone else has been this blunt, but I've wondered this, too. The items she usually wore being neatly tucked away in her purse, even moreso than the happenstance of being on the phone. I don't know. I actually hope it was staged, because that would mean she was safe.

Why would anyone stage this? Not saying it’s out of the question (and it would make sense as to how she was able to pull over vs. driving past and needing to turn around). But I don’t know why anyone would do this? Fake abduction to get money? Attention? Maybe. But it seems so out there. This whole thing is weird.

I don't know. I also don't want to speculate about why the person making the police statement refused to comment on her mental and physical health status, not even a passing comment that she was "perfectly healthy" or something.

But a lot of this doesn't make sense. The tight timeline with police arrival just 3 minutes later but with the wig off, the watch in the purse, no visible signs of her present, etc., doesn't make sense. The timeline but with the trucker eyewitness story doesn't make sense. It's all extraordinarily shocking to hear about at first, but the details don't add up in any parsable way.

I don't know. People will have to wait and see. I hope she's okay, apart from how it happened. Whatever happened, if she is safe somewhere, then the rest can be sorted out with whatever justice to anyone that harmed her.

I don’t understand you people who think she staged this. How in the hell would she have gotten away? On foot? No one’s seen her since?

This was not staged, FFS.

Do you think it would have gone down *more* quickly if she were not cooperating? How does that work?

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Anonymous wrote:Could maybe have been an animal attack?
Maybe she thought she saw a kid and it wasn't. It was a bear or something.

I don't know. It's all very strange and sad
I hope she's found and the child is too if there was one.

Damn, that’s a reasonable guess!

It doesn’t reconcile with the Apple Watch being in her purse.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM armchair detectives have way too much time on their hands (looking up traffic cam videos, aerial views, Reddit, average income of Hoover, AL, etc).

They are getting it all from Websleuths. THOSE people have too much time on their hands. Its clear some of them literally spend hours a day websleuthing.

and yet it was exactly a group like that, who helped find the remains of Gabby Petitio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A user, JustinOnTikTok has an aerial view there are homes on the other side of the tree line. Suburban neighborhood/cul de sacs it seems.

Hoover is a nice suburb of Birmingham. Should be lots of traffic and lots of houses near.

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Like…how long do y’all think it takes to pull someone in the woods, in the dark?

And while my DH who grew up hunting can spot stuff in the woods in the dark at 100 yards, I can’t see shiznit. So I would have been the person circling back around.

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Anonymous wrote:it really makes no sense that a bad person would use a child to trap a random female passerbye. The odds are overwhelming that a man or even an police officer would have been the one to stop help the kid. What would the bad person do then? Ah, "nothing going on here officer. Just lost my toddler in the woods adjacent to a freeway"

I've read elsewhere that maybe she just unfortunately stumbled upon a trafficked child or some other criminal activity and thus had to be "removed" because she was a witness.

This is such a freaky case.

I was buying the trap theory, but you’re right, PP. It doesn’t seem logical.

I guess she ran into something bad and was attacked as a result. I still think she saw a child, so was a child being abused or something?

I agree this makes more sense.

Eh but no other motorists reported a child. No traffic cams picked up movement other than cars and, allegedly, her car on the shoulder. (and not the perpetrators car either).

So no perpetrator's car? Are there houses nearby? A deep culvert or drainage area for someone creepy to hide/live in?

No other motorists reported a child, but her family member on the phone said they heard Carlee ask “are you okay?” Assuming she wasn’t on drugs/hallucinating, it seems like there really was a child she was talking to.

It’s possible a child escaped a trafficking endeavor and she came across it. That would be my best guess. It’s not completely unbelievable that no one else saw the child since it was a highway at night. I know I’m not always paying attention to the side of the roadway. Other drivers could have been paying attention to all the cars around them, their passengers, the radio, etc. and at night a small child on the side of the road isn’t necessarily going to be super easy to spot. Ugh my stomach is in knots over this, I cannot imagine what her friends and family are going through. She looks like a sweet girl. Nursing student willing to stop for a child, so she’s likely a caring person. This is so unfair.

I can’t figure drugs into the timeline she’s leaving work, getting dinner, doing hallucinatory drugs and driving home one exit away from her own? It wouldn’t make sense to do the drugs before getting home. Are people thinking she was doing hallucinogenic drugs at work? It was in her food?

Her being one exit away, with her exit visible makes me think she was that close to home.

Not PP, but when I first heard the details I thought one possible explanation could be that she was having a mental break and imagined/hallucinated that she saw a child, then went off into the woods on her own. I think the only other possibilities are that she stumbled onto a dangerous situation and was abducted, or that this is staged. Of those three possibilities it seems most likely she was abducted.

I didn't see that anyone else has been this blunt, but I've wondered this, too. The items she usually wore being neatly tucked away in her purse, even moreso than the happenstance of being on the phone. I don't know. I actually hope it was staged, because that would mean she was safe.

Why would anyone stage this? Not saying it’s out of the question (and it would make sense as to how she was able to pull over vs. driving past and needing to turn around). But I don’t know why anyone would do this? Fake abduction to get money? Attention? Maybe. But it seems so out there. This whole thing is weird.

I don't know. I also don't want to speculate about why the person making the police statement refused to comment on her mental and physical health status, not even a passing comment that she was "perfectly healthy" or something.

But a lot of this doesn't make sense. The tight timeline with police arrival just 3 minutes later but with the wig off, the watch in the purse, no visible signs of her present, etc., doesn't make sense. The timeline but with the trucker eyewitness story doesn't make sense. It's all extraordinarily shocking to hear about at first, but the details don't add up in any parsable way.

I don't know. People will have to wait and see. I hope she's okay, apart from how it happened. Whatever happened, if she is safe somewhere, then the rest can be sorted out with whatever justice to anyone that harmed her.

I don’t understand you people who think she staged this. How in the hell would she have gotten away? On foot? No one’s seen her since?

This was not staged, FFS.

Saying that there’s a *possibility* that it was staged is not the same as saying we believe that’s what happened. It’s a hell of a lot more likely than being dragged away by a wild animal, though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Could maybe have been an animal attack?
Maybe she thought she saw a kid and it wasn't. It was a bear or something.

I don't know. It's all very strange and sad
I hope she's found and the child is too if there was one.

Damn, that’s a reasonable guess!

It doesn’t reconcile with the Apple Watch being in her purse.

Is it possible that she had taken off the Apple Watch and put it in her purse while she was at work? And then just hadn’t put it back on yet?

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Anonymous wrote:it really makes no sense that a bad person would use a child to trap a random female passerbye. The odds are overwhelming that a man or even an police officer would have been the one to stop help the kid. What would the bad person do then? Ah, "nothing going on here officer. Just lost my toddler in the woods adjacent to a freeway"

I've read elsewhere that maybe she just unfortunately stumbled upon a trafficked child or some other criminal activity and thus had to be "removed" because she was a witness.

This is such a freaky case.

I was buying the trap theory, but you’re right, PP. It doesn’t seem logical.

I guess she ran into something bad and was attacked as a result. I still think she saw a child, so was a child being abused or something?

I agree this makes more sense.

Eh but no other motorists reported a child. No traffic cams picked up movement other than cars and, allegedly, her car on the shoulder. (and not the perpetrators car either).

So no perpetrator's car? Are there houses nearby? A deep culvert or drainage area for someone creepy to hide/live in?

No other motorists reported a child, but her family member on the phone said they heard Carlee ask “are you okay?” Assuming she wasn’t on drugs/hallucinating, it seems like there really was a child she was talking to.

It’s possible a child escaped a trafficking endeavor and she came across it. That would be my best guess. It’s not completely unbelievable that no one else saw the child since it was a highway at night. I know I’m not always paying attention to the side of the roadway. Other drivers could have been paying attention to all the cars around them, their passengers, the radio, etc. and at night a small child on the side of the road isn’t necessarily going to be super easy to spot. Ugh my stomach is in knots over this, I cannot imagine what her friends and family are going through. She looks like a sweet girl. Nursing student willing to stop for a child, so she’s likely a caring person. This is so unfair.

I can’t figure drugs into the timeline she’s leaving work, getting dinner, doing hallucinatory drugs and driving home one exit away from her own? It wouldn’t make sense to do the drugs before getting home. Are people thinking she was doing hallucinogenic drugs at work? It was in her food?

Her being one exit away, with her exit visible makes me think she was that close to home.

Not PP, but when I first heard the details I thought one possible explanation could be that she was having a mental break and imagined/hallucinated that she saw a child, then went off into the woods on her own. I think the only other possibilities are that she stumbled onto a dangerous situation and was abducted, or that this is staged. Of those three possibilities it seems most likely she was abducted.

I didn't see that anyone else has been this blunt, but I've wondered this, too. The items she usually wore being neatly tucked away in her purse, even moreso than the happenstance of being on the phone. I don't know. I actually hope it was staged, because that would mean she was safe.

Why would anyone stage this? Not saying it’s out of the question (and it would make sense as to how she was able to pull over vs. driving past and needing to turn around). But I don’t know why anyone would do this? Fake abduction to get money? Attention? Maybe. But it seems so out there. This whole thing is weird.

I don't know. I also don't want to speculate about why the person making the police statement refused to comment on her mental and physical health status, not even a passing comment that she was "perfectly healthy" or something.

But a lot of this doesn't make sense. The tight timeline with police arrival just 3 minutes later but with the wig off, the watch in the purse, no visible signs of her present, etc., doesn't make sense. The timeline but with the trucker eyewitness story doesn't make sense. It's all extraordinarily shocking to hear about at first, but the details don't add up in any parsable way.

I don't know. People will have to wait and see. I hope she's okay, apart from how it happened. Whatever happened, if she is safe somewhere, then the rest can be sorted out with whatever justice to anyone that harmed her.

I don’t understand you people who think she staged this. How in the hell would she have gotten away? On foot? No one’s seen her since?

This was not staged, FFS.

Saying that there’s a *possibility* that it was staged is not the same as saying we believe that’s what happened. It’s a hell of a lot more likely than being dragged away by a wild animal, though.

Disagree completely.