City people... when is enough enough re: crime

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

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Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

[phone]

We are making an exit plan now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crime is so bad in Fairfax that the guy who attacked the people in the congressional office was chasing women around with a baseball before attacking the people in the office. People in Fairfax just thought it was normal.

Fairfax? Come to the City of Alexandria. Car jackings, robberies, bank robberies and shots fired calls a few times a day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Woman shot in Columbia Heights last night. It never ends.

I used to live on Fairmont and 14th. Shootings are not rare there. A couple memorial days ago there was a murder across the street from me. It got so bad I’ve of my neighbors decided to move back to South Africa

I mean, it was 14th & Fairmount. That's been Dodge City since the late 1970s. Did you not check? It was so much worse before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

The planet where I can read basic english and count past 10. If you’re so sure then why not post the assault with a deadly weapon crime rate for the last 20 years? If you are correct that liberal policies cause crime then the number from 2003 should be lower than today. Go ahead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

The planet where I can read basic english and count past 10. If you’re so sure then why not post the assault with a deadly weapon crime rate for the last 20 years? If you are correct that liberal policies cause crime then the number from 2003 should be lower than today. Go ahead.

Huh? First of all, I am a liberal (OP here) hence why I want to stay in the freaking city. But I also LIVE HERE and know that we never had crime in our immediate area save a few package thefts and now there is really scary violent crime way too frequently.

Also this:

Offense 2022 2023 Percent Change
Homicide 72 78 8%
Sex Abuse 42 62 48%
Assault w/ a Dangerous Weapon 485 489 1%
Robbery 821 948 15%
Violent Crime - Total 1,420 1,577 11%
Burglary 381 346 -9%
Motor Vehicle Theft 1,155 2,448 112%
Theft from Auto 2,599 2,784 7%
Theft (Other) 3,418 4,247 24%
Arson 2 8 300%
Property Crime - Total 7,555 9,833 30%
All Crime - Total 8,975 11,410 27%
2022 Year End Crime Data*
Year-end 2022 data accurate as of January 1, 2023.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Council should pass emergency legislation.

Crime with a gun? Mandatory sentence, no plea except for a conditional deal that results in the arrests of the person you got the gun from along with all other accomplices in the crime.

Any priors in the last 2 years? Mandatory sentence, no plea.

Write in mandates, so that the USAO doesn't have any way out.

Ha, good one! The left-wing dingbats on the DC Council have been trying to do the exact opposite with their loony decriminalize-everything bill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Things like stealing tires would never get me to call it quits. I also wouldn't be so quick to assume that neighborhood stores closing was due to crime (even if they said it was). Most small businesses fail, unfortunately. And shopping/eating patterns have changed so much with the pandemic.

So for me - it would be the shootings and carjackings and other violent crimes. And it'd need to be a lot more than a couple. Might be worth it to also review the actual crime stats for your neighborhood. I do feel as I age that I notice/hear about a lot more crime than I did when I was younger, but that doesn't always mean there actually IS more crime.

I dunno, I love city life. It would take a lot for me to leave.

Walmart closed because it completely misread that H Street corridor and how it would go more upscale. Starbucks closed because they divested of all properties they did not own that did not meet a standard of profit (and I actually know the Starbucks regional real estate person). Not because of crime.




I'm not talking about mom and pop stores. Walmart closed. Starbucks closed. CVS is probably going to close soon because they're getting ransacked multiple times a week.

You're missing many pieces of the puzzle when you say crime is the reason for these closures. We were already living in an age where you can have pretty much everything you need shipped to your house in 1-2 days, so brick-and-mortar stores were struggling to compete. Then covid happened and people didn't want to shop at them. They're likely not losing nearly as much money on theft as they are on societal changes in the way people shop. I can't remember the last time I bought anything at CVS. Walmart said the H street store was closing for poor performance, never mentioned crime/theft. As for Starbucks, fewer people commuting means fewer people popping in for their morning coffee. And they have been in the news recently for closing stores that have tried to unionize.

That Walmart was always super full of people. How could it be anything other than rampant theft? At night you could see people frantically stuffing their coats with merchandise and walking out of the store with a TV under their arm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

The planet where I can read basic english and count past 10. If you’re so sure then why not post the assault with a deadly weapon crime rate for the last 20 years? If you are correct that liberal policies cause crime then the number from 2003 should be lower than today. Go ahead.

Huh? First of all, I am a liberal (OP here) hence why I want to stay in the freaking city. But I also LIVE HERE and know that we never had crime in our immediate area save a few package thefts and now there is really scary violent crime way too frequently.

Also this:

Offense 2022 2023 Percent Change
Homicide 72 78 8%
Sex Abuse 42 62 48%
Assault w/ a Dangerous Weapon 485 489 1%
Robbery 821 948 15%
Violent Crime - Total 1,420 1,577 11%
Burglary 381 346 -9%
Motor Vehicle Theft 1,155 2,448 112%
Theft from Auto 2,599 2,784 7%
Theft (Other) 3,418 4,247 24%
Arson 2 8 300%
Property Crime - Total 7,555 9,833 30%
All Crime - Total 8,975 11,410 27%
2022 Year End Crime Data*
Year-end 2022 data accurate as of January 1, 2023.

And if you look at 5 year trends you can see that there is no crime surge that was caused by “DAs that are soft” or “defunding the police” since the long term trend has been decreasing crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

The planet where I can read basic english and count past 10. If you’re so sure then why not post the assault with a deadly weapon crime rate for the last 20 years? If you are correct that liberal policies cause crime then the number from 2003 should be lower than today. Go ahead.

Huh? First of all, I am a liberal (OP here) hence why I want to stay in the freaking city. But I also LIVE HERE and know that we never had crime in our immediate area save a few package thefts and now there is really scary violent crime way too frequently.

Also this:

Offense 2022 2023 Percent Change
Homicide 72 78 8%
Sex Abuse 42 62 48%
Assault w/ a Dangerous Weapon 485 489 1%
Robbery 821 948 15%
Violent Crime - Total 1,420 1,577 11%
Burglary 381 346 -9%
Motor Vehicle Theft 1,155 2,448 112%
Theft from Auto 2,599 2,784 7%
Theft (Other) 3,418 4,247 24%
Arson 2 8 300%
Property Crime - Total 7,555 9,833 30%
All Crime - Total 8,975 11,410 27%
2022 Year End Crime Data*
Year-end 2022 data accurate as of January 1, 2023.

And if you look at 5 year trends you can see that there is no crime surge that was caused by “DAs that are soft” or “defunding the police” since the long term trend has been decreasing crime.

Just checked and you’re wrong about that too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

[phone]

We are making an exit plan now.

Also looking to get out of this area the moment both kid’s graduate HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

We have all your nutjob irrelevant posts trying poorly to deflect from the actual points made.

We see through that. You can stop. If you have nothing to add but national data or a certain weapon data or XYZ year only data just stop and go retake a HS level statistics class