City people... when is enough enough re: crime

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Anonymous wrote:Things like stealing tires would never get me to call it quits. I also wouldn't be so quick to assume that neighborhood stores closing was due to crime (even if they said it was). Most small businesses fail, unfortunately. And shopping/eating patterns have changed so much with the pandemic.

So for me - it would be the shootings and carjackings and other violent crimes. And it'd need to be a lot more than a couple. Might be worth it to also review the actual crime stats for your neighborhood. I do feel as I age that I notice/hear about a lot more crime than I did when I was younger, but that doesn't always mean there actually IS more crime.

I dunno, I love city life. It would take a lot for me to leave.

Walmart closed because it completely misread that H Street corridor and how it would go more upscale. Starbucks closed because they divested of all properties they did not own that did not meet a standard of profit (and I actually know the Starbucks regional real estate person). Not because of crime.




I'm not talking about mom and pop stores. Walmart closed. Starbucks closed. CVS is probably going to close soon because they're getting ransacked multiple times a week.

You're missing many pieces of the puzzle when you say crime is the reason for these closures. We were already living in an age where you can have pretty much everything you need shipped to your house in 1-2 days, so brick-and-mortar stores were struggling to compete. Then covid happened and people didn't want to shop at them. They're likely not losing nearly as much money on theft as they are on societal changes in the way people shop. I can't remember the last time I bought anything at CVS. Walmart said the H street store was closing for poor performance, never mentioned crime/theft. As for Starbucks, fewer people commuting means fewer people popping in for their morning coffee. And they have been in the news recently for closing stores that have tried to unionize.

That Walmart was always super full of people. How could it be anything other than rampant theft? At night you could see people frantically stuffing their coats with merchandise and walking out of the store with a TV under their arm.

Ghetto fabulous.

As a stock owner I’d be pissed if Walmart DC didn’t close after all the constant looting and employee shrinkage there. Off the charts versus other locations.

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FYI, Walmart recently closed all of their other urban format stores in other cities as well. I'm not arguing that the location was actually performing well, or that theft was not also a problem. But I do think that part of the issue was that Walmart never really figured out how to make smaller format stores in city locations like H St. work within their broader business model.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

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Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

We have all your nutjob irrelevant posts trying poorly to deflect from the actual points made.

We see through that. You can stop. If you have nothing to add but national data or a certain weapon data or XYZ year only data just stop and go retake a HS level statistics class

2022 data

Assault with a dangerous weapon: ⬇️ 17% decrease
Sex abuse: ⬇️ 13% decrease
Homicide: ⬇️ 10% decrease
Burglary: ⬇️ 10% decrease


How would you explain those huge declines in crime last year if the prosecutors and mayor and council were all were causing the increase n crime? Why would crime levels conservative districts be increasing at a similar rate as well?

If you can’t understand my basic premise or answer it directly then I would say it is you who should go back to HS.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

We have all your nutjob irrelevant posts trying poorly to deflect from the actual points made.

We see through that. You can stop. If you have nothing to add but national data or a certain weapon data or XYZ year only data just stop and go retake a HS level statistics class

2022 data

Assault with a dangerous weapon: ⬇️ 17% decrease
Sex abuse: ⬇️ 13% decrease
Homicide: ⬇️ 10% decrease
Burglary: ⬇️ 10% decrease


How would you explain those huge declines in crime last year if the prosecutors and mayor and council were all were causing the increase n crime? Why would crime levels conservative districts be increasing at a similar rate as well?

If you can’t understand my basic premise or answer it directly then I would say it is you who should go back to HS.

Compare those numbers to a decade ago. They’ve still skyrocketed.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

We have all your nutjob irrelevant posts trying poorly to deflect from the actual points made.

We see through that. You can stop. If you have nothing to add but national data or a certain weapon data or XYZ year only data just stop and go retake a HS level statistics class

2022 data

Assault with a dangerous weapon: ⬇️ 17% decrease
Sex abuse: ⬇️ 13% decrease
Homicide: ⬇️ 10% decrease
Burglary: ⬇️ 10% decrease


How would you explain those huge declines in crime last year if the prosecutors and mayor and council were all were causing the increase n crime? Why would crime levels conservative districts be increasing at a similar rate as well?

If you can’t understand my basic premise or answer it directly then I would say it is you who should go back to HS.

Compare those numbers to a decade ago. They’ve still skyrocketed.

Could you please cite per capita numbers from 2013 compared to now because the DC population has also grown by 100,000 people?

[Anonymous]

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2023/01/05/violent-crime-stats-dc-2022

Why would crime drop from 2017-2022 if BLM or lax prosecutors are to blame? Why us crime also higher today in conservative states and districts if this is a political problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You leave and don’t look back. DC government has demonstrated it doesn’t care. It would take significant changes for things to change. Maybe in 20 years. There are too many other places to live where you don’t have to worry about this amount of crime.

+1 this was us. Lived in Cleveland Park for 10 years. walked everywhere. etc. Left and haven't looked back. Sorry, DC is a lost cause.

[Anonymous]

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https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2023/01/05/violent-crime-stats-dc-2022

Why would crime drop from 2017-2022 if BLM or lax prosecutors are to blame? Why us crime also higher today in conservative states and districts if this is a political problem?

Homicide Trend

2022 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013
203 226 198 166 160 116 135 162 105 104*

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I live and and was also here in the 90s. Its so trite at how that is the fallback ":well it was worse then"- sure in the number of murders but also crime seemed to be a lot more contained in certain and even to certain blocks. I absolutely think crime is worse now, the skyrocketing of juvenile gun crimes, carjackings etc is insane. And no one does anything. Kids are free to rob the CVS blind daily and they know there will be no consequences, same for underage car jackings and gun crimes. this shit is everywhere now. I am going on 25 years now but looking to move out.

This is true. People keep saying “but the 90’s...”, yet in the 90’s you couldn’t just walk into a CVS, grab a bunch of stuff right in front of the store workers, and just walk out the door. You couldn’t just walk over the metro gate right in front of the station agent, or just openly use drugs in busy parts of the city with no worry about the police. Now people are just brazenly doing these things in the open with zero fear of any consequences. There’s just this pervasive atmosphere of lawlessness, where people don’t even bother trying to hid their crimes anymore because they know there’s absolutely no consequences.

And the only answer from the Council is to lower consequences. There’s probably only 2 of the 13 members at the moment that actually take crime seriously (Pinto and Gray), even though polls show it’s the top concern for D.C. residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had more guns pointed at me and got in more fights in bars and elsewhere when I lived in rural America than I did since moving to DC.

We believe you!!!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

We have all your nutjob irrelevant posts trying poorly to deflect from the actual points made.

We see through that. You can stop. If you have nothing to add but national data or a certain weapon data or XYZ year only data just stop and go retake a HS level statistics class

2022 data

Assault with a dangerous weapon: ⬇️ 17% decrease
Sex abuse: ⬇️ 13% decrease
Homicide: ⬇️ 10% decrease
Burglary: ⬇️ 10% decrease


How would you explain those huge declines in crime last year if the prosecutors and mayor and council were all were causing the increase n crime? Why would crime levels conservative districts be increasing at a similar rate as well?

If you can’t understand my basic premise or answer it directly then I would say it is you who should go back to HS.

Is that nutjob posting again without it any labels. What Geo? What years? What adjustment for Covid?

Go back to middle school PP.

[Anonymous]

Let’s not forget the “don’t arrest anyone it’s racist” BS that leftist cities have for any phony numbers.

Voila - crime is down cuz we don’t respond or array anyone again.

[Anonymous]

Philly is going to follow NYC's lead by electing a Black mayor who pledges to be tough on crime. This news should have the Charles Allens and Brianne Nadeaus of the world extremely worried about their futures (I know for a fact that Allen thinks he's going to be DC's mayor in the future and had to be talked out of running last year by people who advised him that he would get embarrassed).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/05/17/parker-philadelphia-mayor-primary/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

The telling quote from that story about Cherelle Parker, who will be Philly's next mayor:

More broadly, Parker said during the campaign that policy solutions should come from “the community,” not “people thinking they’re coming in to save poor people.”

“They know it’s not Cherelle engaging in what I call ‘I know what’s best for you people’ policymaking, but it’s come from the ground up,” Parker said Tuesday morning at a polling place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2023/01/05/violent-crime-stats-dc-2022

Why would crime drop from 2017-2022 if BLM or lax prosecutors are to blame? Why us crime also higher today in conservative states and districts if this is a political problem?

BLM political agenda made it perfectly fine to loot, burn, and takeover stores, streets and parks in the name of BLM all the time. No one got arrested, only a few people who defended their property from loud, violent, disruptive activists.

Shocking the lack of law and order and arrests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s de facto legal to shoplift in California now:

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-shoplifting-now-de-facto-legal-california

The law was passed many years ago. D.C. simply copied California.

Making something a misdemeanor does not make it legal. The law is not the problem, the lack of enforcement is.

Enforcement? Are you joking?

You must be joking.

What are you on about? People steal, it's a misdemeanor. They could be arrested and charged with a misdemeanor. But they're not. That's called a lack of enforcement.

+1

Shine a light on the stats DMv, stop hiding them. Last 5 year trend is terrible.
Cars theft, break ins, stolen packages, looting of stores, smash & grabs, serious traffic violations, turning out incarcerated people, gang activity, etc

Nice trolling. Now post the stats for all of the categories that WENT DOWN. How can crime go down when the same prosecutors were in office? Why is crime up in conservative districts as well?

This is OP. What planet are you on that you think crime is going down?

That’s our resident leftist commenter who searched for cherry picked stats and can’t critically think. It’s easy to blow a Mack truck through their poorly written posts and cherry picking. Maybe they’re trying out chat gpt too.

Either way it’s like first grade debate club with that one. Easy to spot, easy to ignore. Wonder if they graduated high school or not. Or where? Yikes…

So all you have is a bunch of personal insults but no data. Hm.

We have all your nutjob irrelevant posts trying poorly to deflect from the actual points made.

We see through that. You can stop. If you have nothing to add but national data or a certain weapon data or XYZ year only data just stop and go retake a HS level statistics class

2022 data

Assault with a dangerous weapon: ⬇️ 17% decrease
Sex abuse: ⬇️ 13% decrease
Homicide: ⬇️ 10% decrease
Burglary: ⬇️ 10% decrease


How would you explain those huge declines in crime last year if the prosecutors and mayor and council were all were causing the increase n crime? Why would crime levels conservative districts be increasing at a similar rate as well?

If you can’t understand my basic premise or answer it directly then I would say it is you who should go back to HS.

Is that nutjob posting again without it any labels. What Geo? What years? What adjustment for Covid?

Go back to middle school PP.

DC
2021-2022
COVID caused a massive drop in crime but that was for the year 2020 so not applicable.