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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none. Why would any young person support Republicans?



What is wong with you? Repulican doesn't mean Trumper. There are 70% in thenation who are not happy with Biden and might switchover. Teach yourself some politics. Start with wikipedia.


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These folks are setting themselves for disappointment in 2024 when they refuse to leave their echo chamber

Biden will be 1 term for sure


Do you ever think to fact check something before you agree with it?


Yes, you are right. It's not 70%. There are only 43% of people that approve of the job he's doing.

But my prediction still stands


Have you compared that to other presidents who had a 2nd term?


Sure. Obama's approval rating right around his re-election was over 50% with independents.

Biden's has been at 40 or below for the past 18 months and is currently at 35.

Again, sticking your head in the sand is not a good strategy. He is VERY vulnerable.


Obama average was below 50 ~ 46, Biden is just below that average.

Trumps approval rating was lower.


Right, and Trump lost.

And Obama's approval rating was at 52 at the point of his reelection

Keep your head in the sand if that makes you feel better, but the reality is that Joe's approval rating must increase. If it stays in the low 40s, he will not be relected.
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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none. Why would any young person support Republicans?



What is wong with you? Repulican doesn't mean Trumper. There are 70% in thenation who are not happy with Biden and might switchover. Teach yourself some politics. Start with wikipedia.

Start with Wikipedia? Are you serious??
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Anonymous wrote:This is an MCPS thread. MCPS is in Maryland. Biden/D is going to win MD's EV, love it or hate it.

Biden's current 40% is lowish for reelection, but not so low because:

* polarization and anger is much bigger since 2008. More voters hate all candidates, but they still have to pick or abstain.

* A lot of Biden's disapproval is from the farther left, who won't vote Trump-style R. (And Republicans won't nominate a moderate like Hogan -- an R version of Biden or Clinton)


You make a good point re: polarization, but I think you're wrong on the second one.

Biden is doing much worse with independents compared to Obama. And those independents will swing a small number of states that will impact the election.

At the time of his election, Obama had an approval rating of around 45% with independents. Biden is currently only around 35%.

That is a huge red flag. You mix that with the Dems who are generally frustrated with the identity politics of the day, and it's going to be a very hard path for Joe.

And then there's the post-Covid campaign issue. Joe was able to campaign from his home due to the pandemic. Seeing him out on the trail will not inspire confidence to any swing voters
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Anonymous wrote:Looking for diversity of thought at mcps schools. All the high schools have a young dems group. Which have young independent and young republicans too?

Have you met Gen Z

+1

Gen Z is concerned about climate change, gun safety, and equal rights for all persons. If they are active at all in politics, they are working directly on issues they care about. They are not hanging out in “Young ______” clubs mimicking mommy and daddy’s ideas.


What would Young Republicans care about?

* Tax cuts for billionaires and powerful corporations?
* Ways to erode the middle class more quickly?
* Reset social progress to 1950?


Hilarious. I live in Montgomery County and have watched the Democrat leadership attack the middle class for the past decade. They have done it in overt ways (taxes, taxes and more taxes) and in less overt ways (housing policies, destroying what was once a great public school system).

It would be great to have some balance and so would love to see a Republican Club at my kid’s super liberal high school.


Is your kid a Republican? If so, how about taking some personal responsibility and suggesting to your kid that they start one?

Or, maybe there aren't any kids at your kid's super liberal high school who are interested in a Republican Club. In that case, do you think there still ought to be one, for "balance"?

DP.. more than likely, any kid in an MCPS HS would be afraid to start a R club for fear they would be bullied and ostracized.

I voted for Biden, but based on some comments I have heard from my DS and his friends about DEI, affirmative action, and such, they aren't so happy with progressive policies at the moment. If progressives aren't careful, they will turn off some of the younger men in our society and push them to the other side.

IMO, it would be good for both sides to have a respectful, thoughtful dialogue with each other. As it is, DS said that if they make any mention of anti-progressive policies, they get reamed in class by the girls. DS doesn't care *that* much about politics, but they can't have a thoughtful conversation because some of the progressives shut them down. There is no room for discussion with some of the progressives, and that is not right.


Oh absolutely. There isn’t much room for ‘respectful discussion’ at my kid’s high school. Just look at this board!

My kid is still figuring out his political views but has definitely chosen to simply keep his thought to himself in class when it’s clear that the girls aren’t really interested in hearing any alternative points of view.

This PP is correct that the girls seem to be way more rabidly progressive and intolerant of diversity of thought.


again, you are raising a child who can't stand up for himself, back his beliefs with thoughtful discussion and expect women to be docile or describe them as rabid. Sad.

DP.. my son doesn't really care that much about politics, so he doesn't think it's enough of a big deal to share his views. But he knows that if he does, the girls will attack him. He's not interested in a combative discussion. Like I said, some of these girls don't know how to discuss issues politely and listen to the other side. Respect goes both ways.


Making up imaginary combative discussions in his head... you might want to bring that up with his doctor.

? it's from personal experience. He knows that he will get attacked by the girls because it has happened in the past, and he sees it happening to other boys whenever they express their opinions that is counter to the progressive girls. He doesn't care enough to discuss it further.


So (1) he perceives disagreement as an attack, and (2) he doesn't actually care that much?

They are belligerent and argumentative... kind of like some adults on here.

No, he doesn't care that much, but if people want diversity of thought, maybe think about not being so combative.

One can disagree without getting angry, but that's not what is happening. Like, look at how some people attack anyone who disagrees with progressive policies.


This canard again?

Literally the only time I have seen this is when a progressive takes the bait of a conservative troll acting in bad faith. Which they often do, depending on their dedication to “owning the libs.”
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Anonymous wrote:Looking for diversity of thought at mcps schools. All the high schools have a young dems group. Which have young independent and young republicans too?

Have you met Gen Z

+1

Gen Z is concerned about climate change, gun safety, and equal rights for all persons. If they are active at all in politics, they are working directly on issues they care about. They are not hanging out in “Young ______” clubs mimicking mommy and daddy’s ideas.


What would Young Republicans care about?

* Tax cuts for billionaires and powerful corporations?
* Ways to erode the middle class more quickly?
* Reset social progress to 1950?


Hilarious. I live in Montgomery County and have watched the Democrat leadership attack the middle class for the past decade. They have done it in overt ways (taxes, taxes and more taxes) and in less overt ways (housing policies, destroying what was once a great public school system).

It would be great to have some balance and so would love to see a Republican Club at my kid’s super liberal high school.


Is your kid a Republican? If so, how about taking some personal responsibility and suggesting to your kid that they start one?

Or, maybe there aren't any kids at your kid's super liberal high school who are interested in a Republican Club. In that case, do you think there still ought to be one, for "balance"?

DP.. more than likely, any kid in an MCPS HS would be afraid to start a R club for fear they would be bullied and ostracized.

I voted for Biden, but based on some comments I have heard from my DS and his friends about DEI, affirmative action, and such, they aren't so happy with progressive policies at the moment. If progressives aren't careful, they will turn off some of the younger men in our society and push them to the other side.

IMO, it would be good for both sides to have a respectful, thoughtful dialogue with each other. As it is, DS said that if they make any mention of anti-progressive policies, they get reamed in class by the girls. DS doesn't care *that* much about politics, but they can't have a thoughtful conversation because some of the progressives shut them down. There is no room for discussion with some of the progressives, and that is not right.


Oh absolutely. There isn’t much room for ‘respectful discussion’ at my kid’s high school. Just look at this board!

My kid is still figuring out his political views but has definitely chosen to simply keep his thought to himself in class when it’s clear that the girls aren’t really interested in hearing any alternative points of view.

This PP is correct that the girls seem to be way more rabidly progressive and intolerant of diversity of thought.


again, you are raising a child who can't stand up for himself, back his beliefs with thoughtful discussion and expect women to be docile or describe them as rabid. Sad.

DP.. my son doesn't really care that much about politics, so he doesn't think it's enough of a big deal to share his views. But he knows that if he does, the girls will attack him. He's not interested in a combative discussion. Like I said, some of these girls don't know how to discuss issues politely and listen to the other side. Respect goes both ways.


Making up imaginary combative discussions in his head... you might want to bring that up with his doctor.

? it's from personal experience. He knows that he will get attacked by the girls because it has happened in the past, and he sees it happening to other boys whenever they express their opinions that is counter to the progressive girls. He doesn't care enough to discuss it further.


So (1) he perceives disagreement as an attack, and (2) he doesn't actually care that much?

They are belligerent and argumentative... kind of like some adults on here.

No, he doesn't care that much, but if people want diversity of thought, maybe think about not being so combative.

One can disagree without getting angry, but that's not what is happening. Like, look at how some people attack anyone who disagrees with progressive policies.


"Diversity of thought" is a Republican talking point. Like, "Ha ha, those liberals are always talking about diversity, we'll show them by talking about diversity of thought!!!"

My kid told me about someone in their history class who cheered when the teacher talked about the liberals getting crushed in Italy in the 1920s - never mind that it was the fascists doing the crushing. Pro-fascism is certainly "diversity of thought", but it's not something I want. "The earth is flat" would also be diversity of thought. Why are there no Flat Earth Clubs in MCPS high schools?


It’s the whole “why oh why won’t you tolerate my intolerance” whinge.
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What is wong with you? Repulican doesn't mean Trumper. There are 70% in thenation who are not happy with Biden and might switchover. Teach yourself some politics. Start with wikipedia.


+1

These folks are setting themselves for disappointment in 2024 when they refuse to leave their echo chamber

Biden will be 1 term for sure


Do you ever think to fact check something before you agree with it?


Yes, you are right. It's not 70%. There are only 43% of people that approve of the job he's doing.

But my prediction still stands


Have you compared that to other presidents who had a 2nd term?


In fact, it gets even worse. The lowest recent approval rating that got reelection was GWB was 48%. Which should be VERY concerning for Joe for 2 reasons:

- that's almost 12% higher than his current approval rating
- Rs have an electoral system advantage

So, yeah, my prediction stands. 1 term

https://news.gallup.com/poll/311825/presidential-job-approval-related-reelection-historically.aspx


It’s actually not 12% lower if you can’t work with facts I can’t help you.


What is it then?

Last I checked, Biden's approval rating was 43. GWB was 48. That's a difference of 5 points, or 12%.


5 is what % less than 48
5 is what percent of 48
5= x% (48)
5/48 = x%
10% = x
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Anonymous wrote:Looking for diversity of thought at mcps schools. All the high schools have a young dems group. Which have young independent and young republicans too?

Have you met Gen Z

+1

Gen Z is concerned about climate change, gun safety, and equal rights for all persons. If they are active at all in politics, they are working directly on issues they care about. They are not hanging out in “Young ______” clubs mimicking mommy and daddy’s ideas.


What would Young Republicans care about?

* Tax cuts for billionaires and powerful corporations?
* Ways to erode the middle class more quickly?
* Reset social progress to 1950?


Hilarious. I live in Montgomery County and have watched the Democrat leadership attack the middle class for the past decade. They have done it in overt ways (taxes, taxes and more taxes) and in less overt ways (housing policies, destroying what was once a great public school system).

It would be great to have some balance and so would love to see a Republican Club at my kid’s super liberal high school.


Is your kid a Republican? If so, how about taking some personal responsibility and suggesting to your kid that they start one?

Or, maybe there aren't any kids at your kid's super liberal high school who are interested in a Republican Club. In that case, do you think there still ought to be one, for "balance"?

DP.. more than likely, any kid in an MCPS HS would be afraid to start a R club for fear they would be bullied and ostracized.

I voted for Biden, but based on some comments I have heard from my DS and his friends about DEI, affirmative action, and such, they aren't so happy with progressive policies at the moment. If progressives aren't careful, they will turn off some of the younger men in our society and push them to the other side.

IMO, it would be good for both sides to have a respectful, thoughtful dialogue with each other. As it is, DS said that if they make any mention of anti-progressive policies, they get reamed in class by the girls. DS doesn't care *that* much about politics, but they can't have a thoughtful conversation because some of the progressives shut them down. There is no room for discussion with some of the progressives, and that is not right.


Oh absolutely. There isn’t much room for ‘respectful discussion’ at my kid’s high school. Just look at this board!

My kid is still figuring out his political views but has definitely chosen to simply keep his thought to himself in class when it’s clear that the girls aren’t really interested in hearing any alternative points of view.

This PP is correct that the girls seem to be way more rabidly progressive and intolerant of diversity of thought.


again, you are raising a child who can't stand up for himself, back his beliefs with thoughtful discussion and expect women to be docile or describe them as rabid. Sad.

DP.. my son doesn't really care that much about politics, so he doesn't think it's enough of a big deal to share his views. But he knows that if he does, the girls will attack him. He's not interested in a combative discussion. Like I said, some of these girls don't know how to discuss issues politely and listen to the other side. Respect goes both ways.


Making up imaginary combative discussions in his head... you might want to bring that up with his doctor.

? it's from personal experience. He knows that he will get attacked by the girls because it has happened in the past, and he sees it happening to other boys whenever they express their opinions that is counter to the progressive girls. He doesn't care enough to discuss it further.


So (1) he perceives disagreement as an attack, and (2) he doesn't actually care that much?

They are belligerent and argumentative... kind of like some adults on here.

No, he doesn't care that much, but if people want diversity of thought, maybe think about not being so combative.

One can disagree without getting angry, but that's not what is happening. Like, look at how some people attack anyone who disagrees with progressive policies.


"Diversity of thought" is a Republican talking point. Like, "Ha ha, those liberals are always talking about diversity, we'll show them by talking about diversity of thought!!!"

My kid told me about someone in their history class who cheered when the teacher talked about the liberals getting crushed in Italy in the 1920s - never mind that it was the fascists doing the crushing. Pro-fascism is certainly "diversity of thought", but it's not something I want. "The earth is flat" would also be diversity of thought. Why are there no Flat Earth Clubs in MCPS high schools?


It’s the whole “why oh why won’t you tolerate my intolerance” whinge.


It’s the whole “I call disagreement intolerance” whinge.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread should be a HUGE warning for echo chamber democrats in this area.

There are a lot of people like me that:

- Voted for Obama twice
- Voted for Hillary
- Voted for Joe (and rejoiced when he won)
- On the fence about voting for Joe, and may just sit it out if Trump gets the R nom.

Putting your head in the sand is a bad strategy


Really, there are not a lot of people like this at all. Assuming you’re even in being truthful (which I doubt), what you are describing is an extremely rare, fringe thought process. Basically, you would be a freak if you behaved this way. Normal people aren’t doing the same.


The "tell" is that these folks are never able to really articulate what they don't like about Biden. There's some dog whistle stuff about "wokeness" but no one will say what that means or how Biden fits into it. He's not even that "woke" by progressive standards. He's your normal centrist Democrat governing from the middle.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread should be a HUGE warning for echo chamber democrats in this area.

There are a lot of people like me that:

- Voted for Obama twice
- Voted for Hillary
- Voted for Joe (and rejoiced when he won)
- On the fence about voting for Joe, and may just sit it out if Trump gets the R nom.

Putting your head in the sand is a bad strategy


Really, there are not a lot of people like this at all. Assuming you’re even in being truthful (which I doubt), what you are describing is an extremely rare, fringe thought process. Basically, you would be a freak if you behaved this way. Normal people aren’t doing the same.


There's a ALOT of us. Almost most of the people I know in my social circle, to be frank. I don't know if they all go as far back as I do voting Dem, but this is what middle class voters look like. They don't have the same viewpoint as MoCo.

Turnout was high in 2020 to get rid of Trump. If its Biden/Trump again, many of the people that 'voted against Trump' will be a little more apathetic and turnout will drop
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Anonymous wrote:Looking for diversity of thought at mcps schools. All the high schools have a young dems group. Which have young independent and young republicans too?

Have you met Gen Z

+1

Gen Z is concerned about climate change, gun safety, and equal rights for all persons. If they are active at all in politics, they are working directly on issues they care about. They are not hanging out in “Young ______” clubs mimicking mommy and daddy’s ideas.


What would Young Republicans care about?

* Tax cuts for billionaires and powerful corporations?
* Ways to erode the middle class more quickly?
* Reset social progress to 1950?


Hilarious. I live in Montgomery County and have watched the Democrat leadership attack the middle class for the past decade. They have done it in overt ways (taxes, taxes and more taxes) and in less overt ways (housing policies, destroying what was once a great public school system).

It would be great to have some balance and so would love to see a Republican Club at my kid’s super liberal high school.


Is your kid a Republican? If so, how about taking some personal responsibility and suggesting to your kid that they start one?

Or, maybe there aren't any kids at your kid's super liberal high school who are interested in a Republican Club. In that case, do you think there still ought to be one, for "balance"?

DP.. more than likely, any kid in an MCPS HS would be afraid to start a R club for fear they would be bullied and ostracized.

I voted for Biden, but based on some comments I have heard from my DS and his friends about DEI, affirmative action, and such, they aren't so happy with progressive policies at the moment. If progressives aren't careful, they will turn off some of the younger men in our society and push them to the other side.

IMO, it would be good for both sides to have a respectful, thoughtful dialogue with each other. As it is, DS said that if they make any mention of anti-progressive policies, they get reamed in class by the girls. DS doesn't care *that* much about politics, but they can't have a thoughtful conversation because some of the progressives shut them down. There is no room for discussion with some of the progressives, and that is not right.


Oh absolutely. There isn’t much room for ‘respectful discussion’ at my kid’s high school. Just look at this board!

My kid is still figuring out his political views but has definitely chosen to simply keep his thought to himself in class when it’s clear that the girls aren’t really interested in hearing any alternative points of view.

This PP is correct that the girls seem to be way more rabidly progressive and intolerant of diversity of thought.


again, you are raising a child who can't stand up for himself, back his beliefs with thoughtful discussion and expect women to be docile or describe them as rabid. Sad.

DP.. my son doesn't really care that much about politics, so he doesn't think it's enough of a big deal to share his views. But he knows that if he does, the girls will attack him. He's not interested in a combative discussion. Like I said, some of these girls don't know how to discuss issues politely and listen to the other side. Respect goes both ways.


Making up imaginary combative discussions in his head... you might want to bring that up with his doctor.

? it's from personal experience. He knows that he will get attacked by the girls because it has happened in the past, and he sees it happening to other boys whenever they express their opinions that is counter to the progressive girls. He doesn't care enough to discuss it further.


So (1) he perceives disagreement as an attack, and (2) he doesn't actually care that much?

They are belligerent and argumentative... kind of like some adults on here.

No, he doesn't care that much, but if people want diversity of thought, maybe think about not being so combative.

One can disagree without getting angry, but that's not what is happening. Like, look at how some people attack anyone who disagrees with progressive policies.


"Diversity of thought" is a Republican talking point. Like, "Ha ha, those liberals are always talking about diversity, we'll show them by talking about diversity of thought!!!"

My kid told me about someone in their history class who cheered when the teacher talked about the liberals getting crushed in Italy in the 1920s - never mind that it was the fascists doing the crushing. Pro-fascism is certainly "diversity of thought", but it's not something I want. "The earth is flat" would also be diversity of thought. Why are there no Flat Earth Clubs in MCPS high schools?


It’s the whole “why oh why won’t you tolerate my intolerance” whinge.


It’s the whole “I call disagreement intolerance” whinge.


Well, no. Because usually it’s a reaction to bad-faith, uncivil and often offensive viewpoints being expressed. Racist and sexist opinions aren’t valid and can be fairly dismissed out of hand. It’s not like the things that leading Republicans say these days are valid or even grounded in reality. You want to discuss the size of government and how it relates to tax policy? Sure. But your proposals to ban drag queens, ban books in schools that deal with race and trans people and insist that the solution to gun violence is more guns? You want to restrict abortion? Naw, you don’t live in the real world and your ideas aren’t even valid enough to discuss. Hell, you really aren’t even American in the way you think.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread should be a HUGE warning for echo chamber democrats in this area.

There are a lot of people like me that:

- Voted for Obama twice
- Voted for Hillary
- Voted for Joe (and rejoiced when he won)
- On the fence about voting for Joe, and may just sit it out if Trump gets the R nom.

Putting your head in the sand is a bad strategy


Really, there are not a lot of people like this at all. Assuming you’re even in being truthful (which I doubt), what you are describing is an extremely rare, fringe thought process. Basically, you would be a freak if you behaved this way. Normal people aren’t doing the same.


There's a ALOT of us. Almost most of the people I know in my social circle, to be frank. I don't know if they all go as far back as I do voting Dem, but this is what middle class voters look like. They don't have the same viewpoint as MoCo.

Turnout was high in 2020 to get rid of Trump. If its Biden/Trump again, many of the people that 'voted against Trump' will be a little more apathetic and turnout will drop


Lol, sure honey. Your “social circle.” Sure, love.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread should be a HUGE warning for echo chamber democrats in this area.

There are a lot of people like me that:

- Voted for Obama twice
- Voted for Hillary
- Voted for Joe (and rejoiced when he won)
- On the fence about voting for Joe, and may just sit it out if Trump gets the R nom.

Putting your head in the sand is a bad strategy


Really, there are not a lot of people like this at all. Assuming you’re even in being truthful (which I doubt), what you are describing is an extremely rare, fringe thought process. Basically, you would be a freak if you behaved this way. Normal people aren’t doing the same.


The "tell" is that these folks are never able to really articulate what they don't like about Biden. There's some dog whistle stuff about "wokeness" but no one will say what that means or how Biden fits into it. He's not even that "woke" by progressive standards. He's your normal centrist Democrat governing from the middle.


I'll tell you.

Generally, I feel worse off today than I was when he took office.

- He handled the pandemic poorly (as did Trump, fwiw)
- Poor execution of withdrawal from Afghanistan
- Inflation
- Failing (and arguably allowing) to protect Title IX from being taken over by biological men. This is a personal one as I have a DD collegiate athlete.
- His age.

There's more. Look, I hope its not Biden/Trump again, bc I'll have to hold my nose and vote for him.

But his first term does not warrant a second
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread should be a HUGE warning for echo chamber democrats in this area.

There are a lot of people like me that:

- Voted for Obama twice
- Voted for Hillary
- Voted for Joe (and rejoiced when he won)
- On the fence about voting for Joe, and may just sit it out if Trump gets the R nom.

Putting your head in the sand is a bad strategy


Really, there are not a lot of people like this at all. Assuming you’re even in being truthful (which I doubt), what you are describing is an extremely rare, fringe thought process. Basically, you would be a freak if you behaved this way. Normal people aren’t doing the same.


There's a ALOT of us. Almost most of the people I know in my social circle, to be frank. I don't know if they all go as far back as I do voting Dem, but this is what middle class voters look like. They don't have the same viewpoint as MoCo.

Turnout was high in 2020 to get rid of Trump. If its Biden/Trump again, many of the people that 'voted against Trump' will be a little more apathetic and turnout will drop


Lol, sure honey. Your “social circle.” Sure, love.


What does that even mean?
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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully none. Why would any young person support Republicans?



What is wong with you? Repulican doesn't mean Trumper. There are 70% in thenation who are not happy with Biden and might switchover. Teach yourself some politics. Start with wikipedia.


+1

These folks are setting themselves for disappointment in 2024 when they refuse to leave their echo chamber

Biden will be 1 term for sure


Do you ever think to fact check something before you agree with it?


Yes, you are right. It's not 70%. There are only 43% of people that approve of the job he's doing.

But my prediction still stands


Have you compared that to other presidents who had a 2nd term?


Sure. Obama's approval rating right around his re-election was over 50% with independents.

Biden's has been at 40 or below for the past 18 months and is currently at 35.

Again, sticking your head in the sand is not a good strategy. He is VERY vulnerable.


Obama average was below 50 ~ 46, Biden is just below that average.

Trumps approval rating was lower.


Right, and Trump lost.

And Obama's approval rating was at 52 at the point of his reelection

Keep your head in the sand if that makes you feel better, but the reality is that Joe's approval rating must increase. If it stays in the low 40s, he will not be relected.


Reagan’s was lower than Biden at this point in his first term.
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Anonymous wrote:Looking for diversity of thought at mcps schools. All the high schools have a young dems group. Which have young independent and young republicans too?

Have you met Gen Z

+1

Gen Z is concerned about climate change, gun safety, and equal rights for all persons. If they are active at all in politics, they are working directly on issues they care about. They are not hanging out in “Young ______” clubs mimicking mommy and daddy’s ideas.


What would Young Republicans care about?

* Tax cuts for billionaires and powerful corporations?
* Ways to erode the middle class more quickly?
* Reset social progress to 1950?


Hilarious. I live in Montgomery County and have watched the Democrat leadership attack the middle class for the past decade. They have done it in overt ways (taxes, taxes and more taxes) and in less overt ways (housing policies, destroying what was once a great public school system).

It would be great to have some balance and so would love to see a Republican Club at my kid’s super liberal high school.


Is your kid a Republican? If so, how about taking some personal responsibility and suggesting to your kid that they start one?

Or, maybe there aren't any kids at your kid's super liberal high school who are interested in a Republican Club. In that case, do you think there still ought to be one, for "balance"?

DP.. more than likely, any kid in an MCPS HS would be afraid to start a R club for fear they would be bullied and ostracized.

I voted for Biden, but based on some comments I have heard from my DS and his friends about DEI, affirmative action, and such, they aren't so happy with progressive policies at the moment. If progressives aren't careful, they will turn off some of the younger men in our society and push them to the other side.

IMO, it would be good for both sides to have a respectful, thoughtful dialogue with each other. As it is, DS said that if they make any mention of anti-progressive policies, they get reamed in class by the girls. DS doesn't care *that* much about politics, but they can't have a thoughtful conversation because some of the progressives shut them down. There is no room for discussion with some of the progressives, and that is not right.


Oh absolutely. There isn’t much room for ‘respectful discussion’ at my kid’s high school. Just look at this board!

My kid is still figuring out his political views but has definitely chosen to simply keep his thought to himself in class when it’s clear that the girls aren’t really interested in hearing any alternative points of view.

This PP is correct that the girls seem to be way more rabidly progressive and intolerant of diversity of thought.


again, you are raising a child who can't stand up for himself, back his beliefs with thoughtful discussion and expect women to be docile or describe them as rabid. Sad.

DP.. my son doesn't really care that much about politics, so he doesn't think it's enough of a big deal to share his views. But he knows that if he does, the girls will attack him. He's not interested in a combative discussion. Like I said, some of these girls don't know how to discuss issues politely and listen to the other side. Respect goes both ways.


Making up imaginary combative discussions in his head... you might want to bring that up with his doctor.

? it's from personal experience. He knows that he will get attacked by the girls because it has happened in the past, and he sees it happening to other boys whenever they express their opinions that is counter to the progressive girls. He doesn't care enough to discuss it further.


So (1) he perceives disagreement as an attack, and (2) he doesn't actually care that much?

They are belligerent and argumentative... kind of like some adults on here.

No, he doesn't care that much, but if people want diversity of thought, maybe think about not being so combative.

One can disagree without getting angry, but that's not what is happening. Like, look at how some people attack anyone who disagrees with progressive policies.


"Diversity of thought" is a Republican talking point. Like, "Ha ha, those liberals are always talking about diversity, we'll show them by talking about diversity of thought!!!"

My kid told me about someone in their history class who cheered when the teacher talked about the liberals getting crushed in Italy in the 1920s - never mind that it was the fascists doing the crushing. Pro-fascism is certainly "diversity of thought", but it's not something I want. "The earth is flat" would also be diversity of thought. Why are there no Flat Earth Clubs in MCPS high schools?


It’s the whole “why oh why won’t you tolerate my intolerance” whinge.


It’s the whole “I call disagreement intolerance” whinge.


Well, no. Because usually it’s a reaction to bad-faith, uncivil and often offensive viewpoints being expressed. Racist and sexist opinions aren’t valid and can be fairly dismissed out of hand. It’s not like the things that leading Republicans say these days are valid or even grounded in reality. You want to discuss the size of government and how it relates to tax policy? Sure. But your proposals to ban drag queens, ban books in schools that deal with race and trans people and insist that the solution to gun violence is more guns? You want to restrict abortion? Naw, you don’t live in the real world and your ideas aren’t even valid enough to discuss. Hell, you really aren’t even American in the way you think.


Yes. Absolutely. But the bar for racism and sexism has dropped so low that its became an arbitrary and meaningless response to any comment that a person simply doesnt like
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