APS: Address Confirmation Project 5th & 8th grade students

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

Totally agree. Make it every year! Love that they’re requiring multiple sources of proof. (Not hard to do if you legitimately live here!)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

Right? People expect schools to do so much but don’t actually want to pay for it.

I’m fine with Syphax focusing on things that actually help! Getting rid of non-residents has the potential to make schools WAY less crowded, directly impacting our kids in a positive way.

That doesn’t mean they aren’t bloated in several other departments. Shift a couple people over from those spots to help check residency every year!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doing this for the entire system each fall would not be worth hiring additional admin staff. This year they targeted three grades - K, 5, and 8. I wonder what the workload was and if you could add in two more, maybe 3rd and 11th. Or two per school-level, so K and 4th, 6th and 8th, then 9th and 11th.

Every grade every year would really be onerous but if you hit 5 or 6 grade levels across K-12 it might uncover enough residency fraud to make it worthwhile.

A single FTE whose job is only checking residency could get it all done. And it would be worth it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doing this for the entire system each fall would not be worth hiring additional admin staff. This year they targeted three grades - K, 5, and 8. I wonder what the workload was and if you could add in two more, maybe 3rd and 11th. Or two per school-level, so K and 4th, 6th and 8th, then 9th and 11th.

Every grade every year would really be onerous but if you hit 5 or 6 grade levels across K-12 it might uncover enough residency fraud to make it worthwhile.

A single FTE whose job is only checking residency could get it all done. And it would be worth it.

They hired a residency specialist last year

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doing this for the entire system each fall would not be worth hiring additional admin staff. This year they targeted three grades - K, 5, and 8. I wonder what the workload was and if you could add in two more, maybe 3rd and 11th. Or two per school-level, so K and 4th, 6th and 8th, then 9th and 11th.

Every grade every year would really be onerous but if you hit 5 or 6 grade levels across K-12 it might uncover enough residency fraud to make it worthwhile.

A single FTE whose job is only checking residency could get it all done. And it would be worth it.

They hired a residency specialist last year

Right. So check everyone’s residency every year. All 13 grades. It can’t take more than a school year to get through.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

Hav you every tried to work with Syphax?

yes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

It wasn’t Syphax doing it last year, it was admin assistants, in the office of each School.

This was a Syphax initiative. Probably with the cooperation and assistance of individual school personnel; but still ensured it actually got done by Syphax. I believe the Planning and Evaluation department that everyone likes to complain about.

Obviously, the mandate come down from Syphax. The actual manpower was done at each school level.

hilarious that you think there's no manpower involved in managing this from Syphax. The program just magically got started and runs itself!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

It wasn’t Syphax doing it last year, it was admin assistants, in the office of each School.

This was a Syphax initiative. Probably with the cooperation and assistance of individual school personnel; but still ensured it actually got done by Syphax. I believe the Planning and Evaluation department that everyone likes to complain about.

Obviously, the mandate come down from Syphax. The actual manpower was done at each school level.

hilarious that you think there's no manpower involved in managing this from Syphax. The program just magically got started and runs itself!

Residency checks are a worthwhile use of Syphax manpower.

Syphax is bloated with unnecessary positions.

Both things can be true. Turn on your brain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

It wasn’t Syphax doing it last year, it was admin assistants, in the office of each School.

This was a Syphax initiative. Probably with the cooperation and assistance of individual school personnel; but still ensured it actually got done by Syphax. I believe the Planning and Evaluation department that everyone likes to complain about.

Obviously, the mandate come down from Syphax. The actual manpower was done at each school level.

Ahhh that explains it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

It wasn’t Syphax doing it last year, it was admin assistants, in the office of each School.

This was a Syphax initiative. Probably with the cooperation and assistance of individual school personnel; but still ensured it actually got done by Syphax. I believe the Planning and Evaluation department that everyone likes to complain about.

Obviously, the mandate come down from Syphax. The actual manpower was done at each school level.

hilarious that you think there's no manpower involved in managing this from Syphax. The program just magically got started and runs itself!

Why are you purposely being obtuse? The hourly workers in each school office spent a large portion of their time last Spring dealing with this paperwork/parents. Of course the program/difficult decisions to kick out students was done at Syphax.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Doing this for the entire system each fall would not be worth hiring additional admin staff. This year they targeted three grades - K, 5, and 8. I wonder what the workload was and if you could add in two more, maybe 3rd and 11th. Or two per school-level, so K and 4th, 6th and 8th, then 9th and 11th.

Every grade every year would really be onerous but if you hit 5 or 6 grade levels across K-12 it might uncover enough residency fraud to make it worthwhile.

A single FTE whose job is only checking residency could get it all done. And it would be worth it.

They hired a residency specialist last year

Right. So check everyone’s residency every year. All 13 grades. It can’t take more than a school year to get through.

That would be over 100/day. I don’t think that’s a realistic goal

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why not validate every grade? If this is just 2 out 12 years (or 3 out of 13 when registering the first time).

Seems like APS could open up a few hundred more seats across the system. Especially useful for the most over crowded schools.

They also check for kindergarten. And this would also catch siblings, so more than just two grades.

I suspect it's a manpower issue to do all of the grades at once.

yeah you know how people complain about too many staff at Syphax but then they also ask why doesn't APS do x, y, z?

Well... you can't have it both ways.

It wasn’t Syphax doing it last year, it was admin assistants, in the office of each School.

This was a Syphax initiative. Probably with the cooperation and assistance of individual school personnel; but still ensured it actually got done by Syphax. I believe the Planning and Evaluation department that everyone likes to complain about.

Obviously, the mandate come down from Syphax. The actual manpower was done at each school level.

hilarious that you think there's no manpower involved in managing this from Syphax. The program just magically got started and runs itself!

Residency checks are a worthwhile use of Syphax manpower.

Syphax is bloated with unnecessary positions.

Both things can be true. Turn on your brain.

Aaah, so you are the decider of which jobs are worthwhile and which are unnecessary. Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doing this for the entire system each fall would not be worth hiring additional admin staff. This year they targeted three grades - K, 5, and 8. I wonder what the workload was and if you could add in two more, maybe 3rd and 11th. Or two per school-level, so K and 4th, 6th and 8th, then 9th and 11th.

Every grade every year would really be onerous but if you hit 5 or 6 grade levels across K-12 it might uncover enough residency fraud to make it worthwhile.

A single FTE whose job is only checking residency could get it all done. And it would be worth it.

They hired a residency specialist last year

Right. So check everyone’s residency every year. All 13 grades. It can’t take more than a school year to get through.

That would be over 100/day. I don’t think that’s a realistic goal

NP. Perhaps they could randomly audit an additional 2 grades every year.

[Anonymous]

Maybe they should check K, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 every year.

[Anonymous]

Remember that even when just checking K, 5, & 8, they also catch & unenroll siblings, so it’s a lot more kids than you think.