Beware “Ozempic Face”

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Anonymous wrote:The number of people who are absolutely furious that semiglutide works well for weight control and so who desperately want to believe made-up negative stories about it is truly staggering.

They’re soooo mad. So so mad.

They are mad that people are fat?

They're mad that fat people have access to a relatively easy and painless way to be thin.

Always have…

Ha, yep.

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Anonymous wrote:It's kind of wild that the woman in the story was able to get it prescribed to help her lose 20lbs of baby weight. Maybe she paid out of pocket? Either way I'm kinda jealous

If you’re short like me, 20 pounds is the difference between normal bmi and obese. I’m 4’11 and it’s 125 and 145 pounds (give or take a few). I’m not considering these drugs, but I’m around 142-143 pounds with elevated blood pressure and I think I saw that with bmi close to 30 with another factor you can qualify which could make me eligible.

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Forget about the face. It can kill you if you have other health issues or taking drugs, like Lisa Marie Presley. She was on opoioids and on diet drug- semaglutide which is the active ingredient in Ozempic.

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Just listened to a segment on the news driving to work--NPR about ozempic and the other one..begins with a 'w'.

It needs to be taken for life or it causes some pretty severe rebound weight gain. After going off, people had even more intense cravings for sugar and other crap and were very hungry all of the time. They started gaining the weight back rapidly.

The problem is that it is very expensive $1400/month. It is hard to find and a lot of insurance won't cover it.

So you could start this, drop the 20-30 pounds fairly quickly but w/out that weekly injection for the rest of your life the weight is coming back and then some.

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Anonymous wrote:Just listened to a segment on the news driving to work--NPR about ozempic and the other one..begins with a 'w'.

It needs to be taken for life or it causes some pretty severe rebound weight gain. After going off, people had even more intense cravings for sugar and other crap and were very hungry all of the time. They started gaining the weight back rapidly.

The problem is that it is very expensive $1400/month. It is hard to find and a lot of insurance won't cover it.

So you could start this, drop the 20-30 pounds fairly quickly but w/out that weekly injection for the rest of your life the weight is coming back and then some.

It's a fantastic way to enrich the manufacturers. Another life-long pharmaceutical.

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I lost 20 lbs without ozempic or any other drug at 48 and it's my neck that sagged the worst. I guess I have "Ozempic Neck" but without the actual ozempic.

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Anonymous wrote:The number of people who are absolutely furious that semiglutide works well for weight control and so who desperately want to believe made-up negative stories about it is truly staggering.

They’re soooo mad. So so mad.

They are mad that people are fat?

They're mad that fat people have access to a relatively easy and painless way to be thin.

Remember, there's always a price to be paid when you take a shortcut.

Oooh I'll remember that when I wake up tomorrow and weigh in; if it's anything like the previous 32 weeks, i'll be down another 2 pounds!

OMG you are going to make all of those skinny people jealous! They just can't stop thinking about it 24/7!

Yes, we’re all soooooo jealous of someone who had more than 32 pounds to lose.

lol seriously. I think I have seen this poster around - thin people are mad that fat people can access clothes now, jealous about weight loss drugs, whatever. I am thin and trust me this is not something I spend my time thinking about. I have no reason to be jealous of someone who had 30+ pounds to lose, for any reason. I can enjoy all the foods I want in a reasonable way and don't have to worry about getting fat! I know heavier people are jealous, because I have been told many times "oh I hate you you're so skinny, blah blah" So die mad about it, I guess!

Hey me too, thanks to Ozempic! It's awesome, so glad I can join the club now.

So what happens when you lose enough weight that you are no longer obese and your insurance stops covering it? No snark, serious question

That's not how it works. Do insurance companies stop covering other drugs because they work? Will they stop paying for chemotherapy because the tumors are shrinking? Do they stop paying for diabetes medication because your A1C becomes normal? Statins because your triglycerides drop?

If my insurance does ever stop covering it for whatever reason that will suck. But I don't foresee that happening soon, and eventually there will be more affordable generics. These drugs will only become more available as time goes on.

Unfortunately, this is exactly how it has been working in practice for many people who have initially been prescribed a GLP-1 such as Ozempic or Wegovy, had insurance cover the drug (which is pretty amazing as many company agreements with insurance plans won't cover weight loss drugs at all), and then had their insurance coverage denied once they reached a normal weight. There is very little recognition on the insurance/formulary negotiations side that these drugs do need to be lifelong meds for many people in order to prevent all the significant health effects that can come with overweight/obesity, including but not limited to diabetes, cancer, high blood pressure, heart disease, etc.

And many people get denied even when their doctors have recommended these meds to treat insulin resistance, pre-diabetic but not full-blown diabetic Hemoglobin A1C levels, etc.

It's much better to prevent diabetes or cancer than treat it, but that's not the way our insurance system is currently set up.

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Anonymous wrote:Just listened to a segment on the news driving to work--NPR about ozempic and the other one..begins with a 'w'.

It needs to be taken for life or it causes some pretty severe rebound weight gain. After going off, people had even more intense cravings for sugar and other crap and were very hungry all of the time. They started gaining the weight back rapidly.

The problem is that it is very expensive $1400/month. It is hard to find and a lot of insurance won't cover it.

So you could start this, drop the 20-30 pounds fairly quickly but w/out that weekly injection for the rest of your life the weight is coming back and then some.

It's a fantastic way to enrich the manufacturers. Another life-long pharmaceutical.

And you think the healthcare system doesn't make billions of dollars off treating diabetes, cancer, etc.? Have you looked at the costs of insulin recently? I'd rather pay for lifelong meds like Ozempic than lifelong meds like insulin (and the host of other meds diabetics get put on).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to a segment on the news driving to work--NPR about ozempic and the other one..begins with a 'w'.

It needs to be taken for life or it causes some pretty severe rebound weight gain. After going off, people had even more intense cravings for sugar and other crap and were very hungry all of the time. They started gaining the weight back rapidly.

The problem is that it is very expensive $1400/month. It is hard to find and a lot of insurance won't cover it.

So you could start this, drop the 20-30 pounds fairly quickly but w/out that weekly injection for the rest of your life the weight is coming back and then some.

As a person who has yo-yo dieted since my teen years, lol at “the weight might come back.” YEAH. ALL DIETS. Talk to anyone who has ever lost a significant amount of weight. To the extent that the weight loss is from Ozempic helping people eat less/healthier, the rebound sounds like what we already know about eating less/healthier. I see no reason to believe Ozempic makes that worse (the studies show people gaining back over time, not some insane rebound) and I’ll be better off health-wise trying not to gain back rather than never losing. And I’ll be in the same place I would be if I used my bootstraps or whatever instead of Ozempic.

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about the face. It can kill you if you have other health issues or taking drugs, like Lisa Marie Presley. She was on opoioids and on diet drug- semaglutide which is the active ingredient in Ozempic.

Hold up. She was on opioids?

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Anonymous wrote:Just listened to a segment on the news driving to work--NPR about ozempic and the other one..begins with a 'w'.

It needs to be taken for life or it causes some pretty severe rebound weight gain. After going off, people had even more intense cravings for sugar and other crap and were very hungry all of the time. They started gaining the weight back rapidly.

The problem is that it is very expensive $1400/month. It is hard to find and a lot of insurance won't cover it.

So you could start this, drop the 20-30 pounds fairly quickly but w/out that weekly injection for the rest of your life the weight is coming back and then some.

So it’s not like any other weight loss regime other than bariatric surgery.

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^^^ Not unlike

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Anonymous wrote: SOME rodents in trials developed thyroid cancer, and most people who have gone off it have mostly gained all the weight back and then some. Good luck to the 'I don't need to diet and exercise, I can just use this drug' crew in the long term.

Rodents getting the placebo in the study ALSO developed these thyroid cancers
Additionally the monkeys tested did not, and monkeys are more similar to humans

NP

And you know what IS known to increase risk for thyroid cancer in humans? Obesity.

Imagine that.

Obesity and thyroid cancer: epidemiologic associations and underlying mechanisms
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24034423/

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Anonymous wrote:Forget about the face. It can kill you if you have other health issues or taking drugs, like Lisa Marie Presley. She was on opoioids and on diet drug- semaglutide which is the active ingredient in Ozempic.

Gosh, people are big mad about people losing weight, aren’t they? Here you are are spouting off with absolutely no proof. They haven’t even now, a month after your post, released her cause of death. She had an apparent cardiac arrest, which after a lifetime of drug abuse, is sad but not exactly a surprise.

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You all are crazy. I wish everyone could get access to it. I know a lot of people on it and they pay like $400 not 1300 a month