New Virginia social studies standards

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

Do you Youngkinites care that this curriculum isn't even accurate?

They DGAF about facts. They are all about "alternative facts" to advance their agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Several speakers expressed outrage over kindergarten standards that described Indigenous people as America’s first “immigrants” from Asia.

“This is our home. We are not immigrants,” said Aaron Winston, a board member for the Virginia Tribal Education Consortium. “No one is trying to say the English didn’t come from England or the Chinese didn’t come from China. Why are you telling us that now we come from somewhere else?”

Superintendent Balow later apologized in an interview.

“It was wrong to label them as immigrants in the standards document and we will make sure that is corrected,” Balow said.

Are they saying they didn't come from Asia over a land bridge?
There is a case that Vikings might have arrived first.

Their ancestors migrated here 30,000 years ago.

They’re indigenous.

I haven't read the curriculum, are the talking about the first American as immigrants in terms of early human migration patterns (which I would support) or as a way to equate their claim to being a native to any other American's claim on the term (which would be pretty awful)

The inaccurate use of the politically-loaded word "immigrant" is "othering" indigenous people.

That's not the terminology for migrations that happened 30,000 years ago.

Conversely, the word indigenous is othering as well.

But it’s accurate and indicates that these were the people of the Americas for many millennia before any Europeans, including Vikings, came and killed/oppressed them. Conflating them with immigrants minimizes the genocide. It’s an intentional, politically-motivated misnomer.

Yes and no? The archaelogical and genetic evidence is now very clear over the last couple of years that the original "Native Americans" from Beringia eliminated a pre-existing population. Genocide was complete in North America, but a very small percentage of the South American population derives from the earlier people, or peoples.

A second wave included the Navajo and more northerly Na Dene speakers.

The third wave's most successful tribal group was the Inuit, who finished wiping out the Dorset as late as the 1400s; the Vikings actually predate Inuit colonization of that part of North America. Replacement here was total; there's no sign of Dorset genes among the Inuit, and no indication that any were able to escape to the south.

Thank you. There’s no such thing, technically, as “indigenous people” anywhere but Africa, where humans evolved. Everyone on every other continent came there at some point. I’m not sure why facts need to be politically contentious. None of this excuses genocide or killing people & taking their land.

None of that makes "immigrant" the accurate word for these people. It was an intentional, politically-motivated misnomer.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

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I don't think I should have to move to Maryland to ensure my kids receive an accurate education that isn't whitewashed.

Even Youngkin had to back down after the public backlash.

I'll stay in VA, thanks, and vote for someone better. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Florida.

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Anonymous wrote:Native Americans (currently grade 2) and Ancient China (currently grade 3) completely removed from elementary school.

Kind of scary.

Dr. King removed from K-5th grade. Yes, wouldn't want to scare white kids with talk of the man who advocated for equality through non-violence. VA is getting as bad as FL!

It's disgusting that VA has this much trash.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

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I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

My kid's class on Columbus Day(now Indigenous Peoples Day) had a trial of Columbus for genocide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think I should have to move to Maryland to ensure my kids receive an accurate education that isn't whitewashed.

Even Youngkin had to back down after the public backlash.

I'll stay in VA, thanks, and vote for someone better. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Florida.

I stayed here, voted for Youngkin and the end result of these revisions will be to push more towards the middle on social studies standards. I understand you want to shove your social justice ideology down every VA child's throats, but the voters said they were sick of it. You should accept the results, instead of being an election denialist.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the link to the meeting. It gets interesting pretty quickly. https://youtu.be/vPIQhS2cYGw

Tons of virtue signaling, tons of left-wing "historians" screaming.

The voters spoke in the last election that they didn't want social studies to be a social activism class anymore. You'll have to teach that to kids on your own time.

So you didn't actually listen to it at all then. Got it.

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

I mean, yes. Fortunately social studies only happened for 30 minutes a day, so that other subjects counteracted the negativity somewhat. But that was the teaching, and the new guidelines were moreso. Glad that's being thrown out.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think I should have to move to Maryland to ensure my kids receive an accurate education that isn't whitewashed.

Even Youngkin had to back down after the public backlash.

I'll stay in VA, thanks, and vote for someone better. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Florida.

They'll vote for these new standards. Virginia needs a social studies standard, this is it. They'll make two or three little changes and this is what students will get for next 6-7 years.

What a relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

My kid's class on Columbus Day(now Indigenous Peoples Day) had a trial of Columbus for genocide.

What do you think happened on Hispaniola?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think I should have to move to Maryland to ensure my kids receive an accurate education that isn't whitewashed.

Even Youngkin had to back down after the public backlash.

I'll stay in VA, thanks, and vote for someone better. Maybe you would be more comfortable in Florida.

They'll vote for these new standards. Virginia needs a social studies standard, this is it. They'll make two or three little changes and this is what students will get for next 6-7 years.

What a relief.

Anything this board does can be undone by the next board. By the time this gets put in a form that can be disseminated to counties, it'll be repealed.

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Anonymous wrote:Several speakers expressed outrage over kindergarten standards that described Indigenous people as America’s first “immigrants” from Asia.

“This is our home. We are not immigrants,” said Aaron Winston, a board member for the Virginia Tribal Education Consortium. “No one is trying to say the English didn’t come from England or the Chinese didn’t come from China. Why are you telling us that now we come from somewhere else?”

Superintendent Balow later apologized in an interview.

“It was wrong to label them as immigrants in the standards document and we will make sure that is corrected,” Balow said.

Are they saying they didn't come from Asia over a land bridge?
There is a case that Vikings might have arrived first.

Their ancestors migrated here 30,000 years ago.

They’re indigenous.

I haven't read the curriculum, are the talking about the first American as immigrants in terms of early human migration patterns (which I would support) or as a way to equate their claim to being a native to any other American's claim on the term (which would be pretty awful)

The inaccurate use of the politically-loaded word "immigrant" is "othering" indigenous people.

That's not the terminology for migrations that happened 30,000 years ago.

Conversely, the word indigenous is othering as well.

But it’s accurate and indicates that these were the people of the Americas for many millennia before any Europeans, including Vikings, came and killed/oppressed them. Conflating them with immigrants minimizes the genocide. It’s an intentional, politically-motivated misnomer.

Yes and no? The archaelogical and genetic evidence is now very clear over the last couple of years that the original "Native Americans" from Beringia eliminated a pre-existing population. Genocide was complete in North America, but a very small percentage of the South American population derives from the earlier people, or peoples.

A second wave included the Navajo and more northerly Na Dene speakers.

The third wave's most successful tribal group was the Inuit, who finished wiping out the Dorset as late as the 1400s; the Vikings actually predate Inuit colonization of that part of North America. Replacement here was total; there's no sign of Dorset genes among the Inuit, and no indication that any were able to escape to the south.

Thank you. There’s no such thing, technically, as “indigenous people” anywhere but Africa, where humans evolved. Everyone on every other continent came there at some point. I’m not sure why facts need to be politically contentious. None of this excuses genocide or killing people & taking their land.

None of that makes "immigrant" the accurate word for these people. It was an intentional, politically-motivated misnomer.

I’m curious as to what you think an “immigrant” is? And how would you describe the peopling of the Americas, if not done by people migrating?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I did. If you think that US history should be taught in a completely negative light about oppression, imperialism and other negative issues with 0 balance, then I'm sure you loved the SOLs after the African American professors' history edits (which were made unilaterally by Democrats after the Ralph Northam blackface scandal).

So VA voters got those jammed down their throats, and then they voted a year later to reject such a view. The people have spoken. You can move to Maryland.

That's not what was happening so...

Maybe join us here in reality if you want to have a reasonable discussion.

My kid's class on Columbus Day(now Indigenous Peoples Day) had a trial of Columbus for genocide.

What do you think happened on Hispaniola?

Do you live in Hispaniola? I live in Fairfax County and this post is in the Virginia Schools forum.