USNEWS 2023 rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Is Columbia included in this year’s ranking after their blatant lies?

It'll be removed from the ranking for 2023 like UCBerkely in 2019

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Anonymous wrote:Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.

Nonsense. Many of the great publics schools in this country don’t have huge endowments. People seem to forget that large state appropriations are equivalent to billions of dollars in private school endowment.

LOL Place the US News rankings next to a list of schools ranked by endowment. (Univ. of Texas system and Texas A&M endowments cover many universities within each system).

That isn't true. It primarily benefits the flagship campus.

That's not true. UTAs endowment is under 5 billion.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Columbia included in this year’s ranking after their blatant lies?

It'll be removed from the ranking for 2023 like UCBerkely in 2019

I doubt it

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According to the N ew York Times-

Without fanfare, U.S. News & World Report announced that it had “unranked” Columbia University, which had been in a three-way tie for the No. 2 spot in the 2022 edition of Best Colleges, after being unable to verify the underlying data submitted by the university.

The decision was posted on the U.S. News website a week after Columbia said it was withdrawing from the upcoming 2023 rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.

Nonsense. Many of the great publics schools in this country don’t have huge endowments. People seem to forget that large state appropriations are equivalent to billions of dollars in private school endowment.

LOL Place the US News rankings next to a list of schools ranked by endowment. (Univ. of Texas system and Texas A&M endowments cover many universities within each system).

That isn't true. It primarily benefits the flagship campus.

That's not true. UTAs endowment is under 5 billion.

UT Austin's endowment is different in that there is a state endowment and a private endowment. The state endowment comes from income from lands in West Texas set aside in the state constitution. For the University of Texas, only UT Austin receives a guaranteed percentage of funds for "excellence", which contributes $439M to the UT Austin budget for FY22. This is about the same as the contribution of endowment income to the UM Ann Arbor budget for FY22, $434M. In addition, UT Austin also has a private endowment of funds that were raised separately, which is currently $5.7B. Additional state endowment funds also pay off bonds used for construction.

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Anonymous wrote:Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.

Nonsense. Many of the great publics schools in this country don’t have huge endowments. People seem to forget that large state appropriations are equivalent to billions of dollars in private school endowment.

LOL Place the US News rankings next to a list of schools ranked by endowment. (Univ. of Texas system and Texas A&M endowments cover many universities within each system).

That isn't true. It primarily benefits the flagship campus.

That's not true. UTAs endowment is under 5 billion.

UT Austin's endowment is different in that there is a state endowment and a private endowment. The state endowment comes from income from lands in West Texas set aside in the state constitution. For the University of Texas, only UT Austin receives a guaranteed percentage of funds for "excellence", which contributes $439M to the UT Austin budget for FY22. This is about the same as the contribution of endowment income to the UM Ann Arbor budget for FY22, $434M. In addition, UT Austin also has a private endowment of funds that were raised separately, which is currently $5.7B. Additional state endowment funds also pay off bonds used for construction.

What is being reported in 4.3 billion.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the N ew York Times-

Without fanfare, U.S. News & World Report announced that it had “unranked” Columbia University, which had been in a three-way tie for the No. 2 spot in the 2022 edition of Best Colleges, after being unable to verify the underlying data submitted by the university.

The decision was posted on the U.S. News website a week after Columbia said it was withdrawing from the upcoming 2023 rankings.

The NYT article continues:

“ In its blog post on Thursday, U.S. News said that after learning of the criticism in March, it had asked Columbia to substantiate the data it had reported, including information about the number of instructional full-time and part-time faculty, the number of full-time faculty with the highest degree in their field, the student-faculty ratio, undergraduate class size and education expenditures.

To date, Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to the information U.S. News requested,” the post said.”

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Anonymous wrote:According to the N ew York Times-

Without fanfare, U.S. News & World Report announced that it had “unranked” Columbia University, which had been in a three-way tie for the No. 2 spot in the 2022 edition of Best Colleges, after being unable to verify the underlying data submitted by the university.

The decision was posted on the U.S. News website a week after Columbia said it was withdrawing from the upcoming 2023 rankings.

I thought US news just estimates the numbers if a college refuses to participate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to the N ew York Times-

Without fanfare, U.S. News & World Report announced that it had “unranked” Columbia University, which had been in a three-way tie for the No. 2 spot in the 2022 edition of Best Colleges, after being unable to verify the underlying data submitted by the university.

The decision was posted on the U.S. News website a week after Columbia said it was withdrawing from the upcoming 2023 rankings.

I thought US news just estimates the numbers if a college refuses to participate.

I guess then the college can sue USNews

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Endowment is, arguably, the single most important factor when ranking colleges & universities.

Nonsense. Many of the great publics schools in this country don’t have huge endowments. People seem to forget that large state appropriations are equivalent to billions of dollars in private school endowment.

LOL Place the US News rankings next to a list of schools ranked by endowment. (Univ. of Texas system and Texas A&M endowments cover many universities within each system).

That isn't true. It primarily benefits the flagship campus.

That's not true. UTAs endowment is under 5 billion.

UT Austin's endowment is different in that there is a state endowment and a private endowment. The state endowment comes from income from lands in West Texas set aside in the state constitution. For the University of Texas, only UT Austin receives a guaranteed percentage of funds for "excellence", which contributes $439M to the UT Austin budget for FY22. This is about the same as the contribution of endowment income to the UM Ann Arbor budget for FY22, $434M. In addition, UT Austin also has a private endowment of funds that were raised separately, which is currently $5.7B. Additional state endowment funds also pay off bonds used for construction.

What is being reported in 4.3 billion.

It is an institution with a unique setup, but since it is public, everything is online.

The current private endowment is $5.7B https://www.utimco.org/reports/private-endowments/ The public endowment, the Permanent University Fund, is currently about $32B and is split 2/3rd ($21.3B) to 1/3rd ($10.7B) between the University of Texas System and the Texas A&M System respectively. Of the UT System part, UT Austin gets the payout to support programs from over 50% of this total and can get no less than 45%. So that is currently about $10.7B. This excludes additional PUF funds that are allocated to pay for debt service on UT Austin construction bonds.

https://www.utsystem.edu/sites/default/files/documents/report-state/2021/available-university-fund-report-fy-2021/fy-2021-ut-system-auf-report.pdf
www.utimco.org

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Anonymous wrote:According to the N ew York Times-

Without fanfare, U.S. News & World Report announced that it had “unranked” Columbia University, which had been in a three-way tie for the No. 2 spot in the 2022 edition of Best Colleges, after being unable to verify the underlying data submitted by the university.

The decision was posted on the U.S. News website a week after Columbia said it was withdrawing from the upcoming 2023 rankings.

I thought US news just estimates the numbers if a college refuses to participate.

They will punish Columbia in some way because they have to incent colleges to keep on cooperating.

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Very interested to see what rankings they cook up tomorrow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

Columbia is #5 by Forbes.
Doesn't matter what National Enquirer, Vogue, Victoria Secret, or US News says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

Columbia is #5 by Forbes.
Doesn't matter what National Enquirer, Vogue, Victoria Secret, or US News says.

I guess that everyone is entitled to at least one fantasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbia may fall out of the top 10.

Columbia was removed from the 2022 ranking (tied at #2) due to recent disclosures of improper data submission to US News. Columbia University is one of a handful of elite schools that does not submit a CDS.

For the top 5, go with the 5 largest endowments (Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton, MIT).

Then Penn, Chicago, Northwestern, Caltech, & Duke in some order.

Johns Hopkins and Columbia tied at #11.

Next grouping: Dartmouth, Brown, Vanderbilt, Cornell, & WashUStL.

Next 5: Rice, Notre Dame, UCLA, & Cal-Berkeley.

USC may move up from its current #27 position.

Columbia is #5 by Forbes.
Doesn't matter what National Enquirer, Vogue, Victoria Secret, or US News says.

I guess that everyone is entitled to at least one fantasy.

Columbia as #5 by Forbes is not a fantasy. It's a fact.