Why is fcps making elementary kids drag laptops to/from school?

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Anonymous wrote:Most Chromebooks weigh 2.5 to 4 pounds. Your snowflakes can handle it. I promise.

Those "textbooks" you're all whining endlessly for, because you refuse to understand that it's not the 80s or 90s anymore, would weigh considerably more.

Next excuse?


FCPS doesn’t use Chromebooks, idiot.


Our FCPS ES absolutely has distributed Chromebooks for the last three years. They aren’t sleek, shiny and new, but they are Chromebooks.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


Sure it is. They can do research and present their findings on a poster, in a diorama, or
Handwrite a paper with drawings. There is nothing important about learning to make a slide show on a laptop.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


GMAFB! They spend 90% of the time making slide shows looking for images to insert and 10% of the time goofing off. No ES age kids need google slides to learn. They are DETRIMENTAL to learning.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


So no one in fcps learned this skill before two years ago when they all got laptops? Hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


They’d rather learn writing than “presenting data”.
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No, I don't think 10 year olds need to learn how to "present data" on a google slide.

Reading, thinking, writing, editing? Yes, definitely, and those are all best done by hand.
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They are just copying and pasting pictures and internet facts into slideshows. There is no educational value.
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I would be delighted if my child's school sent a laptop home with an instruction for the parents to charge it. Great way for me to keep it out of the classroom for the rest of the year.
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Anonymous wrote:I would be delighted if my child's school sent a laptop home with an instruction for the parents to charge it. Great way for me to keep it out of the classroom for the rest of the year.


Lol. Agree. I'm not a monster, I will send it back charged on the last day of school.
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Anonymous wrote:Most Chromebooks weigh 2.5 to 4 pounds. Your snowflakes can handle it. I promise.

Those "textbooks" you're all whining endlessly for, because you refuse to understand that it's not the 80s or 90s anymore, would weigh considerably more.

Next excuse?


FCPS doesn’t use Chromebooks, idiot.


Our FCPS ES absolutely has distributed Chromebooks for the last three years. They aren’t sleek, shiny and new, but they are Chromebooks.


Really? With the Chrome operating system? I highly, highly doubt that.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


So no one in fcps learned this skill before two years ago when they all got laptops? Hmmmmmmmmmmm


You know they were using computers in the classroom before two years ago, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Most Chromebooks weigh 2.5 to 4 pounds. Your snowflakes can handle it. I promise.

Those "textbooks" you're all whining endlessly for, because you refuse to understand that it's not the 80s or 90s anymore, would weigh considerably more.

Next excuse?


FCPS DOES NOT DO CHROME BOOKS. Do you even know what a Chrome book is???? It's not a chrome colored laptop.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


I think it's impertinent of schools to substitute actual learning with a computer, especially when kids are badly lacking key skills such as writing (with a pencil), logical reasoning, and thinking critically. The computer essentially just removes building these core skills and substitutes them with passive versions in the best case scenario (via mostly shallow computer "learning" apps), and in the worst case it reinforces addictive behavior, i.e playing video games. As witnessed in the last 2 years, (in an AAP class), my kid along with a large chunk of his classmates became experts at finding new videogame sites that had not been banned by IT in order to overcome their boredom during their daily classroom computer time.

Effectively presenting data in elementary school is pretty unimportant (and honestly quite useless when looking at the cost vs benefit of time used that could be spent learning math, writing, science, critical thinking, and even art and music). First off, it's extremely easy for kids to build slides and fill them up with images (google for an image, save it, and paste into the slide), they are already doing much more complicated things on the computer (i.e Minecraft) that parents could barely do themselves.

The most important thing in elementary school is to challenge students and help develop their mind and not waste their time. Challenge them to ask questions and help them become curious about learning in order to overcome their boredom. Elementary years fly by really fast and many kids find themselves in middle school without core skills that can help them succeed. While they may be experts at using a computer to make a presentation, it's near worthless compared to the other things they need to be able to do to succeed.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


Sure it is. They can do research and present their findings on a poster, in a diorama, or
Handwrite a paper with drawings. There is nothing important about learning to make a slide show on a laptop.



You are living in the 80’s. There are other products kids can make with tech besides Google Slides. They can create videos, websites, books, infographics, etc. Upper ES should absolutely be creating things using technology and using it for research.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t all of you just opt your kids out of the 1:1 program and get on with your lives instead of complaining online?


And how does one do that?


It’s not an optional program, it’s a county initiative. 1 device for every student.

My point exactly. PP is full of shit.


Huh, wonder why there’s an opt-out form on the FCPS website, then.

https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://www.fcps.edu/resources/technology/fcpson/fcpson-technology-support-fee


This is for middle /high school and it says you can opt out if you want your child to bring their own device to you. Tech isn’t going anywhere.



The 1:1 program is district wide and so is the opt-out form. I know logic and reason are hard for some of y’all to understand. I love that people keep giving you solutions, but all you want to do is complain. Maybe it’s time for homeschooling? But then I’d be very afraid of any kid schooled by some of y’all.



OK sweetie, so what does your child do when his/her classmates are on their laptops at school? How are they doing research for their social studies projects or putting together slides for their classroom presentation? How are they doing the standardized testing / other assessments? Please tell us, I really want to know.


Do you even hear yourself? Elementar age kids should NOT be making google slides.


Oooooh I see. You didn't opt your kids out, you are just full of shit and deflecting. Loser.


Someone who doesn't think kids need to be making useless slide shows instead of actual learning is a loser?


NP, but real question: you really don’t think building the ability to effectively present data is pertinent learning in 2022? Building slide shows helps kids learn how to present data and reinforces their learning on the topic.


Sure it is. They can do research and present their findings on a poster, in a diorama, or
Handwrite a paper with drawings. There is nothing important about learning to make a slide show on a laptop.



You are living in the 80’s. There are other products kids can make with tech besides Google Slides. They can create videos, websites, books, infographics, etc. Upper ES should absolutely be creating things using technology and using it for research.

Sure, it's fine if they work on something once a week, but not good when the bulk of their social studies daily time and grade is on a presentation that requires them to 100% be on the computer. Learning social studies in social studies class should be the priority over learning how to use tech.
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