Sorority rush - please make it sound appealing to me

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter will be a freshman in a couple of weeks and isn't sure if she's interested in going greek or not. I was never in a sorority (my college didn't have them), so I can't really advise either way. I told her to make friends freshman year and see what those friends are planning to do. She can decide to rush or not for sophomore year. It does sound like a huge time suck and pretty silly. OTOH, it could be a lot of fun.

My DD went into school not sold on rushing either but then everyone on her hall did and it seemed like fun to check it all out. It worked out and she loves her sorority and is excited to participate in some leadership positions this year. It is really not a big time suck, unless boys rush and pledging, it was an absolute breeze for her and all fun, once she got through rush itself. The only negative I saw is that her hall had been very close all fall and into spring but then when they rushed, they all ended up in different houses and they tended to go their separate ways. No one else on my DD's hall was in her sorority, so she felt a little sad that she lost that closeness with some of them as they got to know their new sisters, but in the end, they are still friends and I think that will continue this year (sophomore). Just a warning that that can happen and those great friends from freshman fall might end up spending less time there.

That IS sad. That's the kind of scenario where if the girls chose *not* to rush, they could live together the following year(s) and continue their friendships. I'm the PP whose college had no Greek system, and that's exactly what we did - everyone got to be great friends freshman year from living in the same dorm, and continued our friendships by living together later. No sorority needed.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole thing is a laughingstock to the rest of the world who care to know of its existence. Which would be funny if the participants weren't so convinced of their own superiority, which ultimately makes the whole thing a bit sad. "We're laughing at you, not with you," as it were. I would personally avoid.

Hmmm. Your strong reaction to it suggests projection, past rejection and lingering feelings of inadequacy.

This is such a dumb response. It’s like seeing people express their disdain about, say, neo-Nazi chapters in the US and responding, “Hmm, this seems like it suggests projection, past rejection and lingering feelings of inadequacy.” Uh, lol. OK, sure bud. Whatever helps you get through the day. The point of the matter is the vast majority of people view Greek life as an antiquated, embarrassing practice majority upheld by awkward, interchangeable white people with zero personalities. Y’all are NPCs and don’t even realize it.

Ah, it's the malcontent race-baiter again. I was never in a sorority and am not sure I'd want my daughter in one, but you just sound like a complete pill. Ever heard of the "Divine Nine"? Are those sororities full of "awkward, interchangeable black people with zero personalities"? Discuss.

http://www.blackgreek.com/divinenine/#:~:text=The%20Divine%20Nine%20and%20the.%201%20Alpha%20Phi,Council%2C%20Inc.%20-%20%20Quick%20Facts%20Founded%3A%20

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Anonymous wrote:OP there are lots of people on this board who simply hate greek life and can't imagine why anyone would do it. Got news for you, many of them don't even have kids in college and once they do, their kid may well be interested themselves. Why? because it's a way to make a large college smaller, to find "your people" which we are always talking about on this board. It's much easier to find your people in a group of 200 sorority sisters, as opposed to 15,000 under grads.

It's also just fun. They have an active social life, lots of parties and activities including charity events, and there are lots of leadership opportunities.

And again, there is a huge emphasis on diversity in greek life these days. These are not white blond girls anymore, though I can't speak for the SEC schools. My DDs house represents every ethnicity on campus and is a home for all their members, from the studious to the party girl and everyone in between. She has met a group of girls that she really enjoys being around (especially the older girls) and never would have met them had it not been for her sorority.

In reality, it's not much different than any other social club or even sports, or academic etc. Yes the rush process is tough, and that's because there are SO many people interested. When you have 15 houses and a thousand people interested, you are going to have to have a selection process.

This you?

This you?

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Oh the horror! I hope your DC does not play a sport, get grades, have a GPA or want a job someday. People are always ranked in everything they do. You don’t just hire everyone that shows up to the interview, do you? You meet them, interview them and see if they can not only do your job but fit your culture. It’s the same thing.

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My daughter rushed at UVA and didn't stress out about it. Got into a sorority she liked and pledged. Made very good friends in it. Stayed very close to her first year roommate, to whom she was assigned at random and didn't know before UVA. The roommate didn't rush. My daughter was in her wedding last year.

It's not an either/or proposition. Stop judging and let people be. Yes, my daughter is cute, and smart, and funny, and comes from money, and so rushing was no big deal for her. But she's also nice.

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To me, sororities/Greek life are on the same level of cringe as, say, pageants. Very American, very weird, fascinating from an anthropological/sociological standpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Oh the horror! I hope your DC does not play a sport, get grades, have a GPA or want a job someday. People are always ranked in everything they do. You don’t just hire everyone that shows up to the interview, do you? You meet them, interview them and see if they can not only do your job but fit your culture. It’s the same thing.

Sorority rush matches works exactly the same as medical residency match actually.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Barf OP. You do not have to join one.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Oh the horror! I hope your DC does not play a sport, get grades, have a GPA or want a job someday. People are always ranked in everything they do. You don’t just hire everyone that shows up to the interview, do you? You meet them, interview them and see if they can not only do your job but fit your culture. It’s the same thing.

Sorority rush matches works exactly the same as medical residency match actually.

Hahahaha the justification truly knows no bounds.

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It's potentially pretty damaging to 17-18yo girls who have just arrived into an unfamiliar situation and are ranked and accepted or rejected when they are still trying to find their footing at college. They should delay the process to sophomore year or get rid of it altogether.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Oh the horror! I hope your DC does not play a sport, get grades, have a GPA or want a job someday. People are always ranked in everything they do. You don’t just hire everyone that shows up to the interview, do you? You meet them, interview them and see if they can not only do your job but fit your culture. It’s the same thing.

It’s not the same at all.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Oh the horror! I hope your DC does not play a sport, get grades, have a GPA or want a job someday. People are always ranked in everything they do. You don’t just hire everyone that shows up to the interview, do you? You meet them, interview them and see if they can not only do your job but fit your culture. It’s the same thing.

Sorority rush matches works exactly the same as medical residency match actually.

Hahahaha the justification truly knows no bounds.

I mean, it does. You seem out of touch with reality.

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Anonymous wrote:At UMD, some sororities also participated in “dirty rush” by telling PNMs to suicide their house (only rank that one house), knowing that they girls weren’t high enough to get a bid. Then they would contact them under the guise of COB (continuous open bidding) and snap them up. It was a way to ensure they got all of the girls they wanted. Unfortunately, some girls always went that route and then didn’t get the bid later on, and they were usually the ones who invested so much into that one particular house that there wasn’t another house interested.

I am so confused by this (and I was in a sorority in college!). I get the gist is that this is against the spirit of the rules and hurts the girls rushing, but I cannot follow this.

OP, where is your dd going to college? The process can be very different if you are talking Colgate vs UGA, for examples.

I went to a different college and this isnt what dirty rush meant at my school either. At the school that I attended, dirty rush was when sororities wouldnt follow the rules panhellinic set out for fairness during rush. For instance sorority members werent supposed to socialize w rushees outside of the rush process during rush, so that the whole process was fair to everyone—everyone pledging got a chance to meet every sorority in the same way everyone else did under the same time constraints of one hour/party/day. At my school AOPi was the sorority with the prettiest girls and they would often dirty rush other hot chicks. Make sure the hot chicks met everyone outside of formal rush process, etc.

Dirty rush as its used mostly means contact with houses prior to rush and possibly bid promising. The convoluted story about being told to suicide is not considered dirty rush but it is certainly against the rules. If you suicide bid and don't get a bid, then you are eligible for COB and snap bidding after the end of formal rush. So i bet there are houses that use that as a way to ensure they get everyone that they want but certainly it is not the way its supposed to be done.

Most of the time girls do not suicide bid, but if you end up getting a bid from the house you didn't want, you won't accept it but then you can't participate in rush again until the next year. If you suicide and get no bid, you can do COB immediately after bid day so alot of girls do do that because they think they might have a shot at COB and don't want to miss out on a whole year before they can rush again. At UVA for example, last year, most of the houses picked up several kids via COB. I think only one house didn't participate. My DD knows several friends who did COB and got into houses they had been dropped from during the formal rush process so it's a good option.

NP. This is so confusing to me. If you get dropped from a house during rush, why would they then pick you up during COB?

Because it’s purely a numbers game, literally done via computer. So if someone got dropped it’s because they had someone else ranked higher and that kid had them ranked highly so the person ranked lower got dropped. Didn’t mean that they didn’t like the person, so when they had open slots, they don’t use the computer ranking and so it’s easier to get in if you continue to have good conversations etc during the COB process.

Ranking human beings. Nice.

Oh the horror! I hope your DC does not play a sport, get grades, have a GPA or want a job someday. People are always ranked in everything they do. You don’t just hire everyone that shows up to the interview, do you? You meet them, interview them and see if they can not only do your job but fit your culture. It’s the same thing.

Sorority rush matches works exactly the same as medical residency match actually.

Hahahaha the justification truly knows no bounds.

I mean, it does. You seem out of touch with reality.

You are delusional if you’re really trying to equate sorority rush to med school matching process.