Sorority rush - please make it sound appealing to me

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Anonymous wrote:I would not have rushed had someone paid me to do so, but I always find it odd when people seem eager to perform their contempt for frats and sororities... especially if they would be thrilled to see their kid get into Cottage or Ivy at Princeton.

And, in defense of sororities and fraternities, the application process is certainly more egalitarian and democratic than bullshit like Skull and Bones or the final clubs at Harvard, which are truly epicenters of the most obnoxious douchebraggery I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

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I deliberately picked a college with no Greek life, that's how sure I was that I didn't want to be a part of it. But reading the venomous anti-Greek posts vs the more balanced and reasonable Greek defenders, I feel like I would probably have had a great time had I been in a sorority. I'm neutral on whether my daughter should rush or not at her large university - going to leave it up to her.

You probably just didn't see all of the really gross posts in this thread from the "pro-Greek" side that, of course, got deleted.

I've read the entire thread. What "really gross posts" are you referring to? I've seen some incredibly rude and ignorant comments from the anti-Greek contingent. Really not making your case - at ALL.

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Is it just one extremely insecure poster here who thinks Greek life is the root of all evil? Get a life. And I say that as someone with zero Greek affiliation.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not have rushed had someone paid me to do so, but I always find it odd when people seem eager to perform their contempt for frats and sororities... especially if they would be thrilled to see their kid get into Cottage or Ivy at Princeton.

And, in defense of sororities and fraternities, the application process is certainly more egalitarian and democratic than bullshit like Skull and Bones or the final clubs at Harvard, which are truly epicenters of the most obnoxious douchebraggery I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

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I deliberately picked a college with no Greek life, that's how sure I was that I didn't want to be a part of it. But reading the venomous anti-Greek posts vs the more balanced and reasonable Greek defenders, I feel like I would probably have had a great time had I been in a sorority. I'm neutral on whether my daughter should rush or not at her large university - going to leave it up to her.

You probably just didn't see all of the really gross posts in this thread from the "pro-Greek" side that, of course, got deleted.

I've read the entire thread. What "really gross posts" are you referring to? I've seen some incredibly rude and ignorant comments from the anti-Greek contingent. Really not making your case - at ALL.

There were several people calling non-Greek people "homely", calling their daughters ugly, "couldn't get a bid", etc. Real high school mean girl "cool table" vibes.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not have rushed had someone paid me to do so, but I always find it odd when people seem eager to perform their contempt for frats and sororities... especially if they would be thrilled to see their kid get into Cottage or Ivy at Princeton.

And, in defense of sororities and fraternities, the application process is certainly more egalitarian and democratic than bullshit like Skull and Bones or the final clubs at Harvard, which are truly epicenters of the most obnoxious douchebraggery I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

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I deliberately picked a college with no Greek life, that's how sure I was that I didn't want to be a part of it. But reading the venomous anti-Greek posts vs the more balanced and reasonable Greek defenders, I feel like I would probably have had a great time had I been in a sorority. I'm neutral on whether my daughter should rush or not at her large university - going to leave it up to her.

You probably just didn't see all of the really gross posts in this thread from the "pro-Greek" side that, of course, got deleted.

I've read the entire thread. What "really gross posts" are you referring to? I've seen some incredibly rude and ignorant comments from the anti-Greek contingent. Really not making your case - at ALL.

There were several people calling non-Greek people "homely", calling their daughters ugly, "couldn't get a bid", etc. Real high school mean girl "cool table" vibes.

Hmm. Referring to sororities as a “ridiculous bunch of shallow women, idiots, the entire world is laughing at you, idiotic sorority, sad little lives, backwater,” and so much more, to be just as indicative of high school mean girl behavior. YMMV.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not have rushed had someone paid me to do so, but I always find it odd when people seem eager to perform their contempt for frats and sororities... especially if they would be thrilled to see their kid get into Cottage or Ivy at Princeton.

And, in defense of sororities and fraternities, the application process is certainly more egalitarian and democratic than bullshit like Skull and Bones or the final clubs at Harvard, which are truly epicenters of the most obnoxious douchebraggery I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

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I deliberately picked a college with no Greek life, that's how sure I was that I didn't want to be a part of it. But reading the venomous anti-Greek posts vs the more balanced and reasonable Greek defenders, I feel like I would probably have had a great time had I been in a sorority. I'm neutral on whether my daughter should rush or not at her large university - going to leave it up to her.

You probably just didn't see all of the really gross posts in this thread from the "pro-Greek" side that, of course, got deleted.

I've read the entire thread. What "really gross posts" are you referring to? I've seen some incredibly rude and ignorant comments from the anti-Greek contingent. Really not making your case - at ALL.

There were several people calling non-Greek people "homely", calling their daughters ugly, "couldn't get a bid", etc. Real high school mean girl "cool table" vibes.

Hmm. Referring to sororities as a “ridiculous bunch of shallow women, idiots, the entire world is laughing at you, idiotic sorority, sad little lives, backwater,” and so much more, to be just as indicative of high school mean girl behavior. YMMV.

I think only about half of those comments were actually said. Seems like projection, but *shrug*.

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Grant was cut; I read it was likely because she/he/they (not sure what the pronouns are here, trying to be respectful) is a junior transfer and most sororities don't take junior transfers and also. didn't have the grades.

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I thought this post was to show Op that rush has appealing aspects.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought this post was to show Op that rush has appealing aspects.

It was but most of us are hard-pressed to come up with anything positive. Even most the girls who end up with a house they love hate rush.

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Grant was cut; I read it was likely because she/he/they (not sure what the pronouns are here, trying to be respectful) is a junior transfer and most sororities don't take junior transfers and also. didn't have the grades.

Since he posted a letter that says he was dropped prior to Day 1 this would most likely mean he didn't meet the required GPA to join some chapters. The school has a min GPA to rush but each sorority can define a GPA min limit.

On a side note, Grant was super annoying and no way would I have ever wanted to be a club or organization with them. The constant trying was over the top. Could you imagine that act all the time?
It would have been different if they didn't try and act and were just themselves. It also isn't very clear to me at least that they truly identify as a woman bc they really believe that is who they are meant to be. It looks more like hey I am going to dress up and wear makeup and try this out for a few months and also see if I can go viral!

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Anonymous wrote:You Americans and your silly, juvenile customs that you get way too worked up about. Lol.

Right. The Japanese drink themselves brain dead after getting into University and my Oxford kid (UVA) says the drinking at Oxford fatr exceeds anything he ever saw in the States. But if course you know better. …because, why? Oh and let’s talk about the German students at Bier-gardens while we are at ot.

It’s not the drinking that I find funny, it’s the weird cosplaying/juvenile social club thing that people apparently assign outsize important to that I find funny. Like you really have to pay for friends to be considered “cool” by other people who pay for their friends? The whole thing is bizarre and a little childish. So glad I attended university in London and not in some hickish American college where being “Greek” is supposed to be something aspirational. And I’m sure actual Greeks find the whole thing even funnier.

yeah, because surely the british upper crust never paid money to join gay, exclusive social clubs lmao

for the fifth time, there are no national frats or sororities in the UK like in the U.S. You are referring to obscure secret drinking clubs (they tap you - you don't ask to join or rush - big difference). https://www.reddit.com/r/answers/comments/jz4kd/im_from_the_uk_and_we_dont_have/


Are you referring to the Pall Mall clubs like Travelers or The Reform Club? Because there is nothing like the American Greek system at Oxbridge. And I’ve been yo Travelers snd the Reform Club and was also president of a US Soriority. They aren’t comparable on any level

Oxford and Cambridge both have drinking societies / dining clubs where kids get together to get drunk and act like idiots with their friends (the same thing Greek kids do at American schools).

Distinct difference between kids getting together to drink and the weird cosplay/initiation/rushing/faux secret society thing that frats/srats partake in.

It's fascinating to me that THE most "weird/weird cosplay/initiation/rushing/faux secret society thing" in the US is the clubs in the Ivy League (google "Skull & Bones" sometime). But it's the relatively banal southern sororities the set everyone off on a tangent. If it's Yale, it's got to be wonderful, right?

The persecution complex amongst you people who make it a whole point to persecute others based on your contrived social hierarchy is strange indeed!

So, now you've really given the game away. When it's Yale, outsiders just have a "persecution complex," but when it's a state school in the South, the "whole point [is] to persecute others based on [a] *contrived* social hierarchy." It's the same result -- the people on this board condemn the enforcement of a "social hierarchy" when it is in the South, but think it is justified, and, in fact, desirable, when it's the Ivy League. We see here the beautiful irony of the ultimate snobs condemning others that they think are beneath them for having the temerity to be snobs.

Well said. And that goes for the idiot snob who insists students in the UK at Oxford, etc. don't get blackout drunk. What a joke to claim that they're so much more sophisticated. A simple google search turns up hundreds of pictures of wasted UK university students. Same with Ivy League schools.

No one said anything about UK students not getting blackout drunk. That’s projection on your part. UK unis don’t have Greek life. That’s the point. Quite ironic and telling that you automatically equate Greek life with “getting blackout drunk”.

Who cares if they don't have Greek life? Their stupid "secret societies" more than make up for it. You were criticizing Greek organizations for their "contrived social hierarchy," when that is EXACTLY what secret societies are about. So you can hop off your high horse any time now and think about your utter hypocrisy.

https://footprints-tours.com/top-5-most-outrageous-oxford-university-societies/#:~:text=8%20Most%20Outrageous%20Societies%20You%20NEED%20to%20Know,5.%20Oxford%E2%80%99s%20Black%20Cygnets%20%E2%80%93%207%2F10.%20More%20items

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Anonymous wrote:You Americans and your silly, juvenile customs that you get way too worked up about. Lol.

Right. The Japanese drink themselves brain dead after getting into University and my Oxford kid (UVA) says the drinking at Oxford fatr exceeds anything he ever saw in the States. But if course you know better. …because, why? Oh and let’s talk about the German students at Bier-gardens while we are at ot.

It’s not the drinking that I find funny, it’s the weird cosplaying/juvenile social club thing that people apparently assign outsize important to that I find funny. Like you really have to pay for friends to be considered “cool” by other people who pay for their friends? The whole thing is bizarre and a little childish. So glad I attended university in London and not in some hickish American college where being “Greek” is supposed to be something aspirational. And I’m sure actual Greeks find the whole thing even funnier.

yeah, because surely the british upper crust never paid money to join gay, exclusive social clubs lmao

Are you referring to the Pall Mall clubs like Travelers or The Reform Club? Because there is nothing like the American Greek system at Oxbridge. And I’ve been yo Travelers snd the Reform Club and was also president of a US Soriority. They aren’t comparable on any level

Oxford and Cambridge both have drinking societies / dining clubs where kids get together to get drunk and act like idiots with their friends (the same thing Greek kids do at American schools).

Distinct difference between kids getting together to drink and the weird cosplay/initiation/rushing/faux secret society thing that frats/srats partake in.

It's fascinating to me that THE most "weird/weird cosplay/initiation/rushing/faux secret society thing" in the US is the clubs in the Ivy League (google "Skull & Bones" sometime). But it's the relatively banal southern sororities the set everyone off on a tangent. If it's Yale, it's got to be wonderful, right?

The persecution complex amongst you people who make it a whole point to persecute others based on your contrived social hierarchy is strange indeed!

So, now you've really given the game away. When it's Yale, outsiders just have a "persecution complex," but when it's a state school in the South, the "whole point [is] to persecute others based on [a] *contrived* social hierarchy." It's the same result -- the people on this board condemn the enforcement of a "social hierarchy" when it is in the South, but think it is justified, and, in fact, desirable, when it's the Ivy League. We see here the beautiful irony of the ultimate snobs condemning others that they think are beneath them for having the temerity to be snobs.

Um, what? Greek life anywhere, whether at Yale or Alabama, is cringey and weird. And Greek life anywhere is “based on a contrived social hierarchy”. The whole point of it is to look down on and rank/categorize others. Please move on.

Skull and Bones is a secret society at Yale. It is not a national frat or sorority. Big difference

DP. You do realize Yale has sororities/fraternities too… right?

https://www.instagram.com/yale_panhellenic/?hl=en

PP was comparing Skull & Bones to sororities in the south. no comparison.

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Grant was cut; I read it was likely because she/he/they (not sure what the pronouns are here, trying to be respectful) is a junior transfer and most sororities don't take junior transfers and also. didn't have the grades.

Since he posted a letter that says he was dropped prior to Day 1 this would most likely mean he didn't meet the required GPA to join some chapters. The school has a min GPA to rush but each sorority can define a GPA min limit.

On a side note, Grant was super annoying and no way would I have ever wanted to be a club or organization with them. The constant trying was over the top. Could you imagine that act all the time?
It would have been different if they didn't try and act and were just themselves. It also isn't very clear to me at least that they truly identify as a woman bc they really believe that is who they are meant to be. It looks more like hey I am going to dress up and wear makeup and try this out for a few months and also see if I can go viral!

I was curious about this so I checked his Tok Tok and he posted a new video in which he stated he is not trans and was born a male and identifies as male, so he's a he. He shows his GPA on the screen which is below a 3.2 which is the cut off for most sororities. He is gay, but didn't want to join a fraternity so he wanted to try a sorority. So he basically got cut because he's a male with a low GPA.

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Grant was cut; I read it was likely because she/he/they (not sure what the pronouns are here, trying to be respectful) is a junior transfer and most sororities don't take junior transfers and also. didn't have the grades.

Since he posted a letter that says he was dropped prior to Day 1 this would most likely mean he didn't meet the required GPA to join some chapters. The school has a min GPA to rush but each sorority can define a GPA min limit.

On a side note, Grant was super annoying and no way would I have ever wanted to be a club or organization with them. The constant trying was over the top. Could you imagine that act all the time?
It would have been different if they didn't try and act and were just themselves. It also isn't very clear to me at least that they truly identify as a woman bc they really believe that is who they are meant to be. It looks more like hey I am going to dress up and wear makeup and try this out for a few months and also see if I can go viral!

I was curious about this so I checked his Tok Tok and he posted a new video in which he stated he is not trans and was born a male and identifies as male, so he's a he. He shows his GPA on the screen which is below a 3.2 which is the cut off for most sororities. He is gay, but didn't want to join a fraternity so he wanted to try a sorority. So he basically got cut because he's a male with a low GPA.

So he just wanted to go viral.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not have rushed had someone paid me to do so, but I always find it odd when people seem eager to perform their contempt for frats and sororities... especially if they would be thrilled to see their kid get into Cottage or Ivy at Princeton.

And, in defense of sororities and fraternities, the application process is certainly more egalitarian and democratic than bullshit like Skull and Bones or the final clubs at Harvard, which are truly epicenters of the most obnoxious douchebraggery I've ever had the displeasure of witnessing.

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I deliberately picked a college with no Greek life, that's how sure I was that I didn't want to be a part of it. But reading the venomous anti-Greek posts vs the more balanced and reasonable Greek defenders, I feel like I would probably have had a great time had I been in a sorority. I'm neutral on whether my daughter should rush or not at her large university - going to leave it up to her.

You probably just didn't see all of the really gross posts in this thread from the "pro-Greek" side that, of course, got deleted.

I've read the entire thread. What "really gross posts" are you referring to? I've seen some incredibly rude and ignorant comments from the anti-Greek contingent. Really not making your case - at ALL.

There were several people calling non-Greek people "homely", calling their daughters ugly, "couldn't get a bid", etc. Real high school mean girl "cool table" vibes.

Hmm. Referring to sororities as a “ridiculous bunch of shallow women, idiots, the entire world is laughing at you, idiotic sorority, sad little lives, backwater,” and so much more, to be just as indicative of high school mean girl behavior. YMMV.

I think only about half of those comments were actually said. Seems like projection, but *shrug*.

Maybe you should go back and reread from the beginning of the thread. All of those comments were direct quotes. But if you want to pretend they weren’t, that’s entirely a you problem - one of many, I suspect. *shrug*