Latin Cooper and Yu Ying possibly purchasing the Kirov Ballet building (W5)

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Anonymous wrote:Its a beautiful space, however our number for Latin Cooper has dropped substantially this past week.... (or last two frankly) so guess maybe this news impacted things.... and yet BASIS still not moving... I'd think Latin and BASIS impacted eachother's WL.

Interesting. Same here. We're low 40s at Cooper now but stuck at 9 for BASIS.

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Anonymous wrote:Its a beautiful space, however our number for Latin Cooper has dropped substantially this past week.... (or last two frankly) so guess maybe this news impacted things.... and yet BASIS still not moving... I'd think Latin and BASIS impacted eachother's WL.

Interesting. Same here. We're low 40s at Cooper now but stuck at 9 for BASIS.

I imagine the location is not compelling for CH families.

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What makes you say that? CH families have mobbed YY and Latin for over a decade, both a little harder to get to from the Hill than Kirov. DCPCS would ‘t dream of locating Latin Cooper close to CH.

[Anonymous]

They will just make a stop on the CH bus. The Latin instagram/Facebook for the last couple weeks have been focusing on Cooper and I would venture to guess by the photos posted the demographics at Cooper will only be slightly more reflective of the city than the original. [Neither of which reflect the demographics of the city.]

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed location is terrible. No grounds at all. Makes me glad we didn’t take a chance on Cooper.

This. We went with Capital City instead. It was between them and ITS.

When my daughter did ballet at Kirov, the site just wasn't terrible. We zipped up North Cap to get there from Capitol Hill, there was always plenty of parking, the building wasn't loud or dark inside, and the grounds had some nice greenery. Not sure what all this fuss is about.

Then you must not have gone in the weekday morning around 8am or between 3-5pm because there is no way you can zip up North Capitol Street then. We did this drive from H St NE and on a really good day it took 20 minutes, bad day 40 minutes one way.

If you are coming from south of H St and eastern market, you can easily add another 20 minutes on top of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They will just make a stop on the CH bus. The Latin instagram/Facebook for the last couple weeks have been focusing on Cooper and I would venture to guess by the photos posted the demographics at Cooper will only be slightly more reflective of the city than the original. [Neither of which reflect the demographics of the city.]

And the problem is? If city politicians and ed leaders want a different demographic look to Latin Cooper, they're very free to push a full menu of honors classes in our Ward 6 DCPS middle schools, along with the pan Ward 6 DCPS middle school many of us have been hoping for since Fenty was still in.

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Anonymous wrote:Its a beautiful space, however our number for Latin Cooper has dropped substantially this past week.... (or last two frankly) so guess maybe this news impacted things.... and yet BASIS still not moving... I'd think Latin and BASIS impacted eachother's WL.

Interesting. Same here. We're low 40s at Cooper now but stuck at 9 for BASIS.

Cooper seems to do their enrollment in batches, that's why it happened to drop substantially. It was like that for us when we got off the waitlist about a month ago. Don't think it has much to do with the announced location. (Probably they wanted to announce it as a way to get families to buy in?)

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They will just make a stop on the CH bus. The Latin instagram/Facebook for the last couple weeks have been focusing on Cooper and I would venture to guess by the photos posted the demographics at Cooper will only be slightly more reflective of the city than the original. [Neither of which reflect the demographics of the city.]


And the problem is? If city politicians and ed leaders want a different demographic look to Latin Cooper, they're very free to push a full menu of honors classes in our Ward 6 DCPS middle schools, along with the pan Ward 6 DCPS middle school many of us have been hoping for since Fenty was still in.
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This. It is maddening that DCPS refuses to build a Deal/Wilson quality pyramid in Ward 6, with the result being that a few charter schools are swamped by Ward 6 applications. And there is very little that those charters can do to stem the tide of those applications and the disproportionate Ward 6 demographic results. The equitable access preference, while helpful, doesn't really achieve geographic and widespread demographic diversity since only 20% of the kids in the city (as opposed to within the DCPS system) qualify for the fairly narrow at-risk definition. There are many, many middle and working class households in the District who do not live in a performing school pyramid, are not low-income enough to qualify for an equitable access preference, and lack the education choices available to upper income homeowners on the Hill. That's who is really being hurt by DCPS refusing to serve higher income families on the Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed location is terrible. No grounds at all. Makes me glad we didn’t take a chance on Cooper.

Not true. Building sits on an acre of land. The acre could be landscaped nicely and there’s room for a basketball court.

We have been in that building and on the grounds. Behind it is the parking lot. It’s right in the corner of North Capitol St.

I have no idea how that is true that there is an acre of land. I do t see much land/grass. The building and parking lot takes up most of everything.

Exactly. It’s a parking lot. At a busy intersection. No thanks.

Come on, the site will be redeveloped if the two charter schools purchase it. A high fence can be built the current parking lot will no longer be there.

Maybe, but there really isn’t a lot of space. Especially to share. I live nearby, I wish it was a better option, but it just isn’t.

??? I really don’t understand the issue with “space”. I think many if you have an extremely suburban mentality.

These are the same people who complained that the Edgewood location was too dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:Terrible that Latin Cooper did this. They should be forced to keep their promise of an eotr location. And this will be another nail in the coffin to Brookland middle. How far apart would the two Latin campuses be?

THIS. It's truly shit behavior if, after all the song and dance they rolled out about EOTR expansion to get the new campus approved, that they are going to end up with the new campus less than a mile as the crow flies from the old campus and serving a bunch of mostly white kids from Brookland.

Ward 5 is not majority white. Why do you assume this site will be “a bunch of white kids from Brookland”? While not as accessible to kids in Wards 7 and 8, it is closer and this location off north Capitol is better for a lot of families on the East side than the original campus. More accessible by bus, in particular.

If you meant children of color, that's what I assume Latin will look like with expansion. That's what Latin 1 "looked like" when our child graduated. Mostly middle and lower income minority fams.

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed location is terrible. No grounds at all. Makes me glad we didn’t take a chance on Cooper.

This. We went with Capital City instead. It was between them and ITS.

When my daughter did ballet at Kirov, the site just wasn't terrible. We zipped up North Cap to get there from Capitol Hill, there was always plenty of parking, the building wasn't loud or dark inside, and the grounds had some nice greenery. Not sure what all this fuss is about.

Then you must not have gone in the weekday morning around 8am or between 3-5pm because there is no way you can zip up North Capitol Street then. We did this drive from H St NE and on a really good day it took 20 minutes, bad day 40 minutes one way.

If you are coming from south of H St and eastern market, you can easily add another 20 minutes on top of that.

But your kid must be fluent in Chinese by now, mistaken for a native speaker at every turn. All worth it, right, here in the century of the Rising China?

Never said my kid went to YY. But you are just detracting from wanting to hear the truth. Why?

The traffic on North Capitol is real and it’s important families understand that. I suggest those considering do a test drive in rush hour and back from CH in September.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed location is terrible. No grounds at all. Makes me glad we didn’t take a chance on Cooper.

This. We went with Capital City instead. It was between them and ITS.

When my daughter did ballet at Kirov, the site just wasn't terrible. We zipped up North Cap to get there from Capitol Hill, there was always plenty of parking, the building wasn't loud or dark inside, and the grounds had some nice greenery. Not sure what all this fuss is about.

Then you must not have gone in the weekday morning around 8am or between 3-5pm because there is no way you can zip up North Capitol Street then. We did this drive from H St NE and on a really good day it took 20 minutes, bad day 40 minutes one way.

If you are coming from south of H St and eastern market, you can easily add another 20 minutes on top of that.

So true. Anywhere south of Eastern Market adds 20 minutes to the drive. From our house nearish the Potomac Avenue metro, Waze actually directs me to go take 395, go under the mall and pop out on New York Avenue and then cut over to North Capitol Street. It’s a terrible morning commute. I do it about once a school year in the fall and then never again.

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How many years until they would open this campus? And how many more students per grade will be enrolled vs the number at the Edgewood location?

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Anonymous wrote:The proposed location is terrible. No grounds at all. Makes me glad we didn’t take a chance on Cooper.

This. We went with Capital City instead. It was between them and ITS.

When my daughter did ballet at Kirov, the site just wasn't terrible. We zipped up North Cap to get there from Capitol Hill, there was always plenty of parking, the building wasn't loud or dark inside, and the grounds had some nice greenery. Not sure what all this fuss is about.

Then you must not have gone in the weekday morning around 8am or between 3-5pm because there is no way you can zip up North Capitol Street then. We did this drive from H St NE and on a really good day it took 20 minutes, bad day 40 minutes one way.

If you are coming from south of H St and eastern market, you can easily add another 20 minutes on top of that.

But your kid must be fluent in Chinese by now, mistaken for a native speaker at every turn. All worth it, right, here in the century of the Rising China?

Never said my kid went to YY. But you are just detracting from wanting to hear the truth. Why?

The traffic on North Capitol is real and it’s important families understand that. I suggest those considering do a test drive in rush hour and back from CH in September.

You could always move to the burbs, where a school bus would pick up your kids. Alternatively, buy or rent a house in-boundary for Deal. The reality is that no DC UMC family needs to take on the burden of a bad commute to a middle school charter in this Metro area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many years until they would open this campus? And how many more students per grade will be enrolled vs the number at the Edgewood location?

This isn’t even definite. It’s just talks about it. Latin just wants to get this messaging out to try to stem the rapid waitlist Cooper is going thru.