Latin Cooper and Yu Ying possibly purchasing the Kirov Ballet building (W5)

[Anonymous]

Latin NEVER committed to locate EOTR. So sick of seeing that falsehood repeated over and over on this board. Finding permanent space for over 700 kids (when fully enrolled) is very difficult to do since DCPS no longer surpluses school sites to charters. This would be a great deal for both schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Terrible that Latin Cooper did this. They should be forced to keep their promise of an eotr location. And this will be another nail in the coffin to Brookland middle. How far apart would the two Latin campuses be?

THIS. It's truly shit behavior if, after all the song and dance they rolled out about EOTR expansion to get the new campus approved, that they are going to end up with the new campus less than a mile as the crow flies from the old campus and serving a bunch of mostly white kids from Brookland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latin NEVER committed to locate EOTR. So sick of seeing that falsehood repeated over and over on this board. Finding permanent space for over 700 kids (when fully enrolled) is very difficult to do since DCPS no longer surpluses school sites to charters. This would be a great deal for both schools.

Oh please, they might have never said those exact words but that was clearly the idea. Say the right things, get the expansion, then oopsie! No can do the hard work!

[Anonymous]

I am sympathetic to the difficulties of finding appropriate spaces EOTR, as someone who has done a search like this on behalf of a business in need of a large space. It sounds great but then it’s a real struggle to find available options where the building rehab wouldn’t cost a prohibitive amount of money. I completely understand why this site is too good to pass up— it likely needs minimal renovation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terrible that Latin Cooper did this. They should be forced to keep their promise of an eotr location. And this will be another nail in the coffin to Brookland middle. How far apart would the two Latin campuses be?

THIS. It's truly shit behavior if, after all the song and dance they rolled out about EOTR expansion to get the new campus approved, that they are going to end up with the new campus less than a mile as the crow flies from the old campus and serving a bunch of mostly white kids from Brookland.

Ward 5 is not majority white. Why do you assume this site will be “a bunch of white kids from Brookland”? While not as accessible to kids in Wards 7 and 8, it is closer and this location off north Capitol is better for a lot of families on the East side than the original campus. More accessible by bus, in particular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Latin NEVER committed to locate EOTR. So sick of seeing that falsehood repeated over and over on this board. Finding permanent space for over 700 kids (when fully enrolled) is very difficult to do since DCPS no longer surpluses school sites to charters. This would be a great deal for both schools.

Why would you say DCPS no longer surpluses? They just surplused Wilkinson to DC Prep last year. If they don't do it as often as they used to, it's because most of the desirable buildings are already gone. Nobody wanted Slater and Langston. So Wah.

Why is it that a charter can only exist if DCPS hands them a building, by the way? Buy something else and renovate it if you want it that badly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sympathetic to the difficulties of finding appropriate spaces EOTR, as someone who has done a search like this on behalf of a business in need of a large space. It sounds great but then it’s a real struggle to find available options where the building rehab wouldn’t cost a prohibitive amount of money. I completely understand why this site is too good to pass up— it likely needs minimal renovation.

Yes, this. If going in on it with YY creates economies of scale, more power to them both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terrible that Latin Cooper did this. They should be forced to keep their promise of an eotr location. And this will be another nail in the coffin to Brookland middle. How far apart would the two Latin campuses be?

They'd be just a bit over one mile apart.

This could be a total boon for their students in terms of expanded extracurriculars that serve students from both campuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terrible that Latin Cooper did this. They should be forced to keep their promise of an eotr location. And this will be another nail in the coffin to Brookland middle. How far apart would the two Latin campuses be?

They'd be just a bit over one mile apart.

This could be a total boon for their students in terms of expanded extracurriculars that serve students from both campuses.

Maybe, but it doesn't help widen their net of students across the city.

[Anonymous]

So what does the email say? When would they move?

[Anonymous]

Why bother to widen the net when there's rising demand for Latin's brand of education among a growing group of middle-class families. Who wins when high SES DC parents flee the District for lack of decent public middle and high schools?

The inconvenient truth is that poor minority kids who study Chinese in public schools tend not to get enough Chinese or English, absent inputs DCPCS isn't providing. Their families can't afford to reinforce Chinese at home with au pairs, tutors, camps etc. They also can't afford to provide extra ELA inputs. In MoCo, the 2 Chinese ES immersion programs send poor kids to summer immersion camps free of charge. YuYing does not.

Poor kids in Ward 7 and 8 are probably better off staying close to home for their schooling, as long as they attend a well-run charter. Call me names if you have the energy, but I'm not wrong.

[Anonymous]

Latin Cooper can't be everything to every 5th-12th grader in DC who could benefit from a Latin education. They're doing their best to find a permanent location. More power to their board and admins.

YY I have less sympathy for. 13 years under a principal who didn't know the language or culture of immersion was ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

For sure the people on here squealing about Latin not locating in Wards 7 or 8 are simply blanket anti-charter and would absolutely throw a fit if Latin DID locate in wards 7 or 8 because either a) those wards already have 17 charter schools, it’s overkill or b) Latin would be poaching students from the already struggling middle and high schools there, blaming it for further underenrollment in DCPS. Anti charter people always have a nefarious narrative to offer no matter what these schools do.

Latin can’t win here with the detractors so they are carrying on with their mission and goals—which demonstrably include diversity goals and more robust outreach and transportation planning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For sure the people on here squealing about Latin not locating in Wards 7 or 8 are simply blanket anti-charter and would absolutely throw a fit if Latin DID locate in wards 7 or 8 because either a) those wards already have 17 charter schools, it’s overkill or b) Latin would be poaching students from the already struggling middle and high schools there, blaming it for further underenrollment in DCPS. Anti charter people always have a nefarious narrative to offer no matter what these schools do.

Latin can’t win here with the detractors so they are carrying on with their mission and goals—which demonstrably include diversity goals and more robust outreach and transportation planning.

No, it's because they implied to the PCSB that an EOTR location was the goal, and then don't seem to have tried very hard, surprising nobody. And because Latin's "success" is really just having very few at-risk kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For sure the people on here squealing about Latin not locating in Wards 7 or 8 are simply blanket anti-charter and would absolutely throw a fit if Latin DID locate in wards 7 or 8 because either a) those wards already have 17 charter schools, it’s overkill or b) Latin would be poaching students from the already struggling middle and high schools there, blaming it for further underenrollment in DCPS. Anti charter people always have a nefarious narrative to offer no matter what these schools do.

Latin can’t win here with the detractors so they are carrying on with their mission and goals—which demonstrably include diversity goals and more robust outreach and transportation planning.

No, it's because they implied to the PCSB that an EOTR location was the goal, and then don't seem to have tried very hard, surprising nobody. And because Latin's "success" is really just having very few at-risk kids.

How do you know they “didn’t try very hard” to find a suitable location EOTR? And they implemented an at-risk preference this year for both campuses, so that seems to indicate that they are trying to serve more at risk kids.