Privatizing DC roads?!: Chain Bridge Rd and University Terr

[Anonymous]

I still say we should shut DC 295 down and turn it into an urban BLVD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still say we should shut DC 295 down and turn it into an urban BLVD

Start your own thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

Yes, downtown Silver Spring is more "urban" than Palisades. That is irrelevent. That's also not where any of the "traffic calming" takes place. The desire to force all traffic onto "arterials" in order to segregate single family homes from the hoi polloi is bad from both a practical and philosophical perspective. It is sefish and it is a waste of community resources. Nobody is better or more deserving than anybody else. City streets are public goods and it is a profound violation of the public trust and social contract to give special rights to a few. The city was designed as a grid. Every street plays a role. Dont be a selfish hole.

My kids’ safety IS more deserving than your desire to save a couple of minutes by speeding down a short cut on some narrow street.

This has absolutely nothing to do with safety.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

Yes, downtown Silver Spring is more "urban" than Palisades. That is irrelevent. That's also not where any of the "traffic calming" takes place. The desire to force all traffic onto "arterials" in order to segregate single family homes from the hoi polloi is bad from both a practical and philosophical perspective. It is sefish and it is a waste of community resources. Nobody is better or more deserving than anybody else. City streets are public goods and it is a profound violation of the public trust and social contract to give special rights to a few. The city was designed as a grid. Every street plays a role. Dont be a selfish hole.

My kids’ safety IS more deserving than your desire to save a couple of minutes by speeding down a short cut on some narrow street.

What a bogus argument! Your kids are in no danger and there’s never been a recorded accident.

We’ve lived in the neighborhood for quite a while before finally deciding to move to an area of DC without the airplane noise and pollution and where the houses haven’t yet gobbled up their lots or the sidewalk or put houses within an arms reach of one another. It’s a shame what University Terrace is now with the new houses on top of one another. CBR (upper) is still charming.

One thing that UT and CBR however are not, are unsafe for kids. I’d also love to see the census of how many kids live on these streets, because it’s mostly senior citizens with furry children walking these streets.

This “secret” request is an attempt to privatize these streets, but as the raging debate on the list serve would attest, it’s completely DOA as it is unenforceable and will draw more traffic out of resentment. If you cared about your “kids”, you’d admit we have a dreadful plane noise and pollution problem so that we can do something about it collectively vs. pretending for the sake of the property values (a losing proposition).

The folks planning on driving up and down these streets to make a point are pretty sad and clearly have an abundance of time on their hands. Look - people chose to live where they do for a whole host of reasons. I am sick of the MD and VA license plates cutting through neighborhoods with little kids and pedestrians. These folks have no skin in the game and should have barriers in place. Stay on Mass or Wisconsin if you want to go 45 MPH.

[Anonymous]

Nope. Quite like the CBR and UT now.

Why don’t you stay out of VA and MD, including to go to the airports? No?

Forget about it. I’m just glad we spread the word. Over a thousand people and counting found out about this plan on dcum and had a universal reaction - Streisand effect!

If only you had kept your little streets to yourselves…

Worry about the urban disaster your streets have become due to no building restrictions and the unchecked plane pollution

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No little kids playing on CBR/UT. Ever!

Also no one ever driving 45mph down these streets, too many curves for that. Total bull. Someone made a deal w. Cheh to push through before her retirement.

Illegal and illegitimate privatization. Rise up, I mean drive on

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of all of these people saying their streets need to be treated differently because they are "cut through" - no, these are all public spaces and should be accessible by and for the public at all times. It really isn't fair to push traffic on to other streets because you don't like it on yours. Buy a house on a different street out in the country. We live in a city. Tough it out.

There’s something called the FHA functional classification of streets, which DC follows. Narrow residential streets are not the same as an arterial like Wisconsin Avenue and may not be appropriate for thru traffic. The statement that “you live in a city” is absurd. Bethesda and some other parts of Montgomery County are more urban that some DC neighborhoods, and MoCo has very effective traffic calming, including no thru traffic limitations. Don’t be an idiot.

Yes, downtown Silver Spring is more "urban" than Palisades. That is irrelevent. That's also not where any of the "traffic calming" takes place. The desire to force all traffic onto "arterials" in order to segregate single family homes from the hoi polloi is bad from both a practical and philosophical perspective. It is sefish and it is a waste of community resources. Nobody is better or more deserving than anybody else. City streets are public goods and it is a profound violation of the public trust and social contract to give special rights to a few. The city was designed as a grid. Every street plays a role. Dont be a selfish hole.

My kids’ safety IS more deserving than your desire to save a couple of minutes by speeding down a short cut on some narrow street.

What a bogus argument! Your kids are in no danger and there’s never been a recorded accident.

We’ve lived in the neighborhood for quite a while before finally deciding to move to an area of DC without the airplane noise and pollution and where the houses haven’t yet gobbled up their lots or the sidewalk or put houses within an arms reach of one another. It’s a shame what University Terrace is now with the new houses on top of one another. CBR (upper) is still charming.

One thing that UT and CBR however are not, are unsafe for kids. I’d also love to see the census of how many kids live on these streets, because it’s mostly senior citizens with furry children walking these streets.

This “secret” request is an attempt to privatize these streets, but as the raging debate on the list serve would attest, it’s completely DOA as it is unenforceable and will draw more traffic out of resentment. If you cared about your “kids”, you’d admit we have a dreadful plane noise and pollution problem so that we can do something about it collectively vs. pretending for the sake of the property values (a losing proposition).

The folks planning on driving up and down these streets to make a point are pretty sad and clearly have an abundance of time on their hands. Look - people chose to live where they do for a whole host of reasons. I am sick of the MD and VA license plates cutting through neighborhoods with little kids and pedestrians. These folks have no skin in the game and should have barriers in place. Stay on Mass or Wisconsin if you want to go 45 MPH.

Not sad at all. Folk heroes. All. Respect

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Who’s really sad and with too much time on his hands is the CBR/UT resident NIMBY lawyer. Even in his dotage he knows that there’s no chance of enforcing this and is spinning out (to much amusement of many of his neighbors). No thru is DOA, these threads will draw more traffic. Enjoy the fall out

[Anonymous]

Arizona, Chain Bridge, University Terrace all appear to be arterial roadways on Google Maps. Why would anyone on either street think it isn't?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Arizona, Chain Bridge, University Terrace all appear to be arterial roadways on Google Maps. Why would anyone on either street think it isn't?

They want to believe.

[Anonymous]

Because of how much they overpaid for their houses which subsequently turned out to be under a relentless airplane corridor and with sunlight, drainage and mold issues from overbuilding (also rats in the walls, no joke, there’s been a ton of construction)

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Anonymous wrote:Because of how much they overpaid for their houses which subsequently turned out to be under a relentless airplane corridor and with sunlight, drainage and mold issues from overbuilding (also rats in the walls, no joke, there’s been a ton of construction)

Did your girlfriend leave you for an airline pilot? You need to get over this obsession with airplane noise, it's not healthy.

[Anonymous]

The preservation committee is obsessed with stoping the development, spend $$$$ on lawyers but always lose in the end. The lawsuits though give substance to the rumors of the run off and sewer water issues, rot, moisture and mold in these houses are true.

Planes are in fact also terrible (see local listserve for how people really feel). Don’t know if any girlfriends left any people but truth is truth.

Instead of faking that all is well and that UT isn’t horrendously overbuilt, CBR/UT old heads complain about people from MD and VA driving on their streets. Gimme a break

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What I find hilarious is the complaints on Oct 21 (I see 15-20 cars max the whole day)

www.anc3d.org has all the letters and minutes showing the bogus claims made by Cheh and CBR/UT folk who did oppose the sidewalks

For me but not for thee

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Anonymous wrote:Because of how much they overpaid for their houses which subsequently turned out to be under a relentless airplane corridor and with sunlight, drainage and mold issues from overbuilding (also rats in the walls, no joke, there’s been a ton of construction)

Did your girlfriend leave you for an airline pilot? You need to get over this obsession with airplane noise, it's not healthy.

The girlfriend developed a chronic disease from living under the flight path right there, more like it.