Wilson / Jackson-Reed Teacher saying slurs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone here attacking the victim so as the reduce the responsibility of the aggressor. Nice.

The kid will get no consequences and will (might?) graduate one day into a world where people don’t have to and won’t put up with his sh!t. What will become of him then? The teacher will resign and get a job at a school where he doesn’t have to put up with it and DCPS will lose another good teacher. The system will not change. Because of attitudes like those on this thread.

+100. Keep putting some blame on the teacher who was the victim and see how that goes. It’s bad enough we don’t have enough teachers, let alone good ones like this one.

Examples of this situation being tolerated all year with the verbal abuse with no consequences is a big reason why the system is bleeding teachers.

Is there one post here where someone says that the child should suffer no consequences?

[jsteele]

For those of of you who believe the teacher was wrong, what do you believe the consequences should be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone here attacking the victim so as the reduce the responsibility of the aggressor. Nice.

The kid will get no consequences and will (might?) graduate one day into a world where people don’t have to and won’t put up with his sh!t. What will become of him then? The teacher will resign and get a job at a school where he doesn’t have to put up with it and DCPS will lose another good teacher. The system will not change. Because of attitudes like those on this thread.

+100. Keep putting some blame on the teacher who was the victim and see how that goes. It’s bad enough we don’t have enough teachers, let alone good ones like this one.

Examples of this situation being tolerated all year with the verbal abuse with no consequences is a big reason why the system is bleeding teachers.

Is there one post here where someone says that the child should suffer no consequences?

PP here, I’m talking no consequences at school such as suspension, removal from the classroom, etc….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone here attacking the victim so as the reduce the responsibility of the aggressor. Nice.

The kid will get no consequences and will (might?) graduate one day into a world where people don’t have to and won’t put up with his sh!t. What will become of him then? The teacher will resign and get a job at a school where he doesn’t have to put up with it and DCPS will lose another good teacher. The system will not change. Because of attitudes like those on this thread.

+100. Keep putting some blame on the teacher who was the victim and see how that goes. It’s bad enough we don’t have enough teachers, let alone good ones like this one.

Examples of this situation being tolerated all year with the verbal abuse with no consequences is a big reason why the system is bleeding teachers.

Is there one post here where someone says that the child should suffer no consequences?

PP here, I’m talking no consequences at school such as suspension, removal from the classroom, etc….

Yeah, I think everyone here agrees that there should be consequences of some sort like that.

[Anonymous]

My DC is in that class and loves the teacher. However, DC felt that the teacher lost his cool and needlessly escalated the exchange by repeatedly contradicting (correctly) the student, instead of saying, eg, "be quiet, conversation over" long before it got to the slur stage.

Related, DC has some sympathy for the student, who seems to be playing with somewhat less than a full deck. DC says he is generally an upbeat guy, but a bit clueless and obviously lacking in the parental department and any notion of appropriate behavior.

For my part, I'm horrified to see what DC has to put up with in DCPS (I went private) and am embarrassed we've have put him there.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:For those of of you who believe the teacher was wrong, what do you believe the consequences should be?

Nothing more than an admin saying something like "don't use that language for any reason. Have a nice summer."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This teacher has been verbally abused all year by the student and when the student called the teacher the n word, he denied it. He did not say you are a n**
I don’t understand how people on here are saying the teacher is in the wrong in some way.

He could have said - "I will not use the word that you used - it is horrible that you are using it outside this class - but especially horrible to use it in this class. The other words you have used are horrible and destructive. Leave the classroom now."

+1 a mature response.

When my kid first said "f%&" to me, I didn't yell back "We do not say f^&*!" I said "do not use that word with me."

You are very out of touch with the rights that teachers have and don't have if you think it's that easy for a teacher to kick a kid out of his classroom.

[Anonymous]

That poor teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This teacher is probably having one of the worst weeks of his life right now, wondering what happens next. This is the only part that's on video, so you don't see whatever abuse he's been enduring previously or the lack of support he had in dealing with it. You don't have to think he handled it in the best possible way - I'm sure if he could redo it he would have acted differently - to think that a focus on his behavior in the moment is misplaced.

+1. I don't think he should have said the word, because I don't think the word should ever be said especially by a white person in a position of authority. But the context of the repetition makes this the equivalent to, like, eye-rolling to me; something a teacher shouldn't do to a student, but not a capital offense. On the contrary, the student's behavior is so ridiculously out of line that I cannot believe that is not the headline here (and for those saying it is, look at the title of this post & what parents are saying about how their kids are saying this is being discussed at school).

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:For those of of you who believe the teacher was wrong, what do you believe the consequences should be?

I think teacher was wrong and I don't think a White person ever has an excuse to use this word. Ever. I think the teacher probably regrets saying the word but slipped up in the heat of the moment. I think he needs more support and maybe to get some tips from the school social worker on how to deal with kids like this.

Signed, Black woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone here attacking the victim so as the reduce the responsibility of the aggressor. Nice.

The kid will get no consequences and will (might?) graduate one day into a world where people don’t have to and won’t put up with his sh!t. What will become of him then? The teacher will resign and get a job at a school where he doesn’t have to put up with it and DCPS will lose another good teacher. The system will not change. Because of attitudes like those on this thread.

I haven't seen one person in this thread attack the victim. Show me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone here attacking the victim so as the reduce the responsibility of the aggressor. Nice.

The kid will get no consequences and will (might?) graduate one day into a world where people don’t have to and won’t put up with his sh!t. What will become of him then? The teacher will resign and get a job at a school where he doesn’t have to put up with it and DCPS will lose another good teacher. The system will not change. Because of attitudes like those on this thread.

I haven't seen one person in this thread attack the victim. Show me.

I think that person likely believes that questioning the teacher's response is an "attack." As in, anything other than full-throated support is "attacking."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This teacher has been verbally abused all year by the student and when the student called the teacher the n word, he denied it. He did not say you are a n**
I don’t understand how people on here are saying the teacher is in the wrong in some way.

He could have said - "I will not use the word that you used - it is horrible that you are using it outside this class - but especially horrible to use it in this class. The other words you have used are horrible and destructive. Leave the classroom now."

+1 a mature response.

When my kid first said "f%&" to me, I didn't yell back "We do not say f^&*!" I said "do not use that word with me."

You are very out of touch with the rights that teachers have and don't have if you think it's that easy for a teacher to kick a kid out of his classroom.

Okay? Even leaving that out, it's still a better response than escalating the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:For those of of you who believe the teacher was wrong, what do you believe the consequences should be?

I think teacher was wrong and I don't think a White person ever has an excuse to use this word. Ever. I think the teacher probably regrets saying the word but slipped up in the heat of the moment. I think he needs more support and maybe to get some tips from the school social worker on how to deal with kids like this.

Signed, Black woman.

+1

Right. I'm not advocating for throwing out the teacher or anything significant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This teacher has been verbally abused all year by the student and when the student called the teacher the n word, he denied it. He did not say you are a n**
I don’t understand how people on here are saying the teacher is in the wrong in some way.

He could have said - "I will not use the word that you used - it is horrible that you are using it outside this class - but especially horrible to use it in this class. The other words you have used are horrible and destructive. Leave the classroom now."

+1 a mature response.

When my kid first said "f%&" to me, I didn't yell back "We do not say f^&*!" I said "do not use that word with me."

You are very out of touch with the rights that teachers have and don't have if you think it's that easy for a teacher to kick a kid out of his classroom.

I don't know what this means. My kid had some bad behavior in middle school and was kicked of class more than once for it. There weren't any cuss words or racial slurs, but there was talking back to the teacher and refusal to follow directions. The teacher made my kid leave. I had no problem with my kid being kicked out either. And there were more consequences at home. My friend works in a DCPS elementary school as a social worker; kids get kicked out and are sent to friends' office on a daily basis.