Formula shortage?

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Anonymous wrote:My son projectile vomited the formula they sent home from the hospital with him, I think it was Enfamil. I put him on the Dr. Spock advised carnation milk and karo syrup concoction and he did great. My second kid too.

They are now all grown up and are quite healthy and have superior IQs.

I saw on the news yesterday that whatever you do you should not improvise making your own formula for your baby. WTF? A whole generation of babies had the Dr. Spock version.

Thanks granny

Guess you don't want to hear anything useful. Ypu do know that formula wasn't always available, right?

This is outdated information and if you read the news they are urging people not to do homemade.

So what ARE they urging people to do? If there is no formula on the shelf what should a parent do?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My son projectile vomited the formula they sent home from the hospital with him, I think it was Enfamil. I put him on the Dr. Spock advised carnation milk and karo syrup concoction and he did great. My second kid too.

They are now all grown up and are quite healthy and have superior IQs.

I saw on the news yesterday that whatever you do you should not improvise making your own formula for your baby. WTF? A whole generation of babies had the Dr. Spock version.

Thanks granny

Guess you don't want to hear anything useful. Ypu do know that formula wasn't always available, right?

This is outdated information and if you read the news they are urging people not to do homemade.

Right now PP there is formula out there, just not the speciality formula that some babies need or a particular brand that a baby is used to. So making your formula at home is the wrong advice. It’s safer to buy a different type of formula than to make your own at this point. The problem is that lots of babies can’t have any brand while others are fussy and don’t like drinking a different formula each time.

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Anonymous wrote:My son projectile vomited the formula they sent home from the hospital with him, I think it was Enfamil. I put him on the Dr. Spock advised carnation milk and karo syrup concoction and he did great. My second kid too.

They are now all grown up and are quite healthy and have superior IQs.

I saw on the news yesterday that whatever you do you should not improvise making your own formula for your baby. WTF? A whole generation of babies had the Dr. Spock version.

Thanks granny

Guess you don't want to hear anything useful. Ypu do know that formula wasn't always available, right?

This is outdated information and if you read the news they are urging people not to do homemade.

So what ARE they urging people to do? If there is no formula on the shelf what should a parent do?

They haven’t really come up with solutions. They should at least set up some kind of nationwide hotline to answer questions. Or FDA should come out with clear advice. Right now the advice we have is ask your pediatrician.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son projectile vomited the formula they sent home from the hospital with him, I think it was Enfamil. I put him on the Dr. Spock advised carnation milk and karo syrup concoction and he did great. My second kid too.

They are now all grown up and are quite healthy and have superior IQs.

I saw on the news yesterday that whatever you do you should not improvise making your own formula for your baby. WTF? A whole generation of babies had the Dr. Spock version.

Thanks granny

Guess you don't want to hear anything useful. Ypu do know that formula wasn't always available, right?

This is outdated information and if you read the news they are urging people not to do homemade.

So what ARE they urging people to do? If there is no formula on the shelf what should a parent do?

They haven’t really come up with solutions. They should at least set up some kind of nationwide hotline to answer questions. Or FDA should come out with clear advice. Right now the advice we have is ask your pediatrician.

You buy what you can and hoard it...

[Anonymous]

I’m no expert but can the Governor declare that it’s a state of emergency? We need some efficient way to know which store has what. I mean driving around for hours looking for formula when you have a baby to take care of and possibly other kids is a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:As usual, the government is the problem. Stop banning eu formula.

Serious question. If they lift the ban in EU formula, are the EU companies really going to have the supplies to ship here? How are they in any better state from a manufacturing perspective than we are? Our shortage isn’t just because of the Abbott’s Lab closure.

My understanding is there is less of a monopoly in Europe and their distribution is more nimble. I may be wrong though. My worry is, if European formula is imported in the US will they be able to produce more to meet demand, or will it cause a shortage of formula in Europe. I guess the two issues are related. Also why does the media keep bringing up importing European formula as a solution? What about Canadian formula?

Yes, agree. The EU and Canada are not going to be long-term viable solutions without impacting their own supply chain.

I work in logistics of processed products and even if FDA decided to allow importation of EU formula, there needs to be an entire supply chain of shippers, brokers, etc created that right now does not exist. Not to mention the desire of EU formula makers to ship to the US. I’m not so sure the desire is there because they could have easily now, for years, created a label that’s US-compliant but they clearly don’t see the long-term value in our market. It’s all absurd and the federal government should’ve been handling this for months but there is simply no “quick” solution.

Agree. This is one of the reasons that makes the statement from the Feds that releasing the EU ban as one of their solution so stupid. That and we should contact Pediatricians for supplies. I don’t know any Pediatrician that has had formula samples for weeks now. The response from the Feds is so out of touch.

Right? Do they really think pediatricians have some endless supply of formula in a back room somewhere? I imagine many pediatrician offices are sick of answering calls asking for formula.

Called our pediatricians office to ask if they have Enfamil Gentlease. They told me I’m really lucky. They only have 5 cans left and one is Enfamil Gentlease. By the time I got to the office to pick up the formula, the nurse who gave it to me said that this is their last can of formula. Also re Jen Psaki - lots of families don’t have access to a pediatrician. Someone in a Facebook group dismissed this point and said that they can take out a phone book and call any pediatrician in the area. Well when I called about the formula, first thing receptionist did was ask if my daughter is a patient with their practice. So it’s not like ppl can call any pediatrician’s office.

We used Gentlease. We switched to Perrigo's (PBM's) version of same thing - its the purple can. They manufacture the generic infant formula sold by CVS, Walmart, Target, Walgreens, and maybe Sam's Club (check label at Sams if its PBM/Perrigo). Just buy the purple can. And it tastes so much better. Hope this helps!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As usual, the government is the problem. Stop banning eu formula.

Serious question. If they lift the ban in EU formula, are the EU companies really going to have the supplies to ship here? How are they in any better state from a manufacturing perspective than we are? Our shortage isn’t just because of the Abbott’s Lab closure.

My understanding is there is less of a monopoly in Europe and their distribution is more nimble. I may be wrong though. My worry is, if European formula is imported in the US will they be able to produce more to meet demand, or will it cause a shortage of formula in Europe. I guess the two issues are related. Also why does the media keep bringing up importing European formula as a solution? What about Canadian formula?

Yes, agree. The EU and Canada are not going to be long-term viable solutions without impacting their own supply chain.

I work in logistics of processed products and even if FDA decided to allow importation of EU formula, there needs to be an entire supply chain of shippers, brokers, etc created that right now does not exist. Not to mention the desire of EU formula makers to ship to the US. I’m not so sure the desire is there because they could have easily now, for years, created a label that’s US-compliant but they clearly don’t see the long-term value in our market. It’s all absurd and the federal government should’ve been handling this for months but there is simply no “quick” solution.

Agree. This is one of the reasons that makes the statement from the Feds that releasing the EU ban as one of their solution so stupid. That and we should contact Pediatricians for supplies. I don’t know any Pediatrician that has had formula samples for weeks now. The response from the Feds is so out of touch.

Right? Do they really think pediatricians have some endless supply of formula in a back room somewhere? I imagine many pediatrician offices are sick of answering calls asking for formula.

Called our pediatricians office to ask if they have Enfamil Gentlease. They told me I’m really lucky. They only have 5 cans left and one is Enfamil Gentlease. By the time I got to the office to pick up the formula, the nurse who gave it to me said that this is their last can of formula. Also re Jen Psaki - lots of families don’t have access to a pediatrician. Someone in a Facebook group dismissed this point and said that they can take out a phone book and call any pediatrician in the area. Well when I called about the formula, first thing receptionist did was ask if my daughter is a patient with their practice. So it’s not like ppl can call any pediatrician’s office.

We used Gentlease. We switched to Perrigo's (PBM's) version of same thing - its the purple can. They manufacture the generic infant formula sold by CVS, Walmart, Target, Walgreens, and maybe Sam's Club (check label at Sams if its PBM/Perrigo). Just buy the purple can. And it tastes so much better. Hope this helps!

I just checked Sam's Club's gentle label - it is PBM made too.

[Anonymous]

Amazon's Mama Bear label too! Also made by PBM. So these store brands listed above are all interchangeable - all identical https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Formula-Milk-Based-Non-GMO/dp/B07RJFDGKH

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Last post lol! So like I said above, PBM/Perrigo manufactures the infant formula sold under the CVS, Target, Walgreens, Sam's Club, and Amazon Mama Bear labels. Purple one is like Enfamil Gentlease.

So, you can buy online on Walgreens and pick up in store - it shows which stores have it online here https://www.walgreens.com/store/c/well-beginnings-gentle-baby-formula-milk-based-powder-with-iron/ID=300399876-product

[Anonymous]

What formula do you need and what's the zipcode? Let us help you find some formula for your baby. Please don't make your own formula at home! Buy buy baby in Rockville has some of the ready to feed special formulas for babies with sensitivities. You can reserve and pick up in store. Walgreens also had some Enfamil, and Burt's Bees formula in stock/in store.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazon's Mama Bear label too! Also made by PBM. So these store brands listed above are all interchangeable - all identical https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Formula-Milk-Based-Non-GMO/dp/B07RJFDGKH

Sure, but when will Amazon actually get this to you? I don't know if it varies by area, but when I click on that, it says it is expected to arrive (via Amazon Prime) May 27-June 5! So it really doesn't matter which formulas are "interchangeable" if NONE of them are in stock.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon's Mama Bear label too! Also made by PBM. So these store brands listed above are all interchangeable - all identical https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Formula-Milk-Based-Non-GMO/dp/B07RJFDGKH

Sure, but when will Amazon actually get this to you? I don't know if it varies by area, but when I click on that, it says it is expected to arrive (via Amazon Prime) May 27-June 5! So it really doesn't matter which formulas are "interchangeable" if NONE of them are in stock.

It's in stock at my Walgreens here. Under their label

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon's Mama Bear label too! Also made by PBM. So these store brands listed above are all interchangeable - all identical https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Formula-Milk-Based-Non-GMO/dp/B07RJFDGKH

Sure, but when will Amazon actually get this to you? I don't know if it varies by area, but when I click on that, it says it is expected to arrive (via Amazon Prime) May 27-June 5! So it really doesn't matter which formulas are "interchangeable" if NONE of them are in stock.

It's in stock at my Walgreens here. Under their label

Your Walgreens sells Amazon labeled products?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon's Mama Bear label too! Also made by PBM. So these store brands listed above are all interchangeable - all identical https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Formula-Milk-Based-Non-GMO/dp/B07RJFDGKH

Sure, but when will Amazon actually get this to you? I don't know if it varies by area, but when I click on that, it says it is expected to arrive (via Amazon Prime) May 27-June 5! So it really doesn't matter which formulas are "interchangeable" if NONE of them are in stock.

It's in stock at my Walgreens here. Under their label

Your Walgreens sells Amazon labeled products?

Or are you talking about the well beginnings? For the Well Beginnings, the closest one (in stock) to where I live (FAR flung exurbs) is 28 miles away! I may live in the exurbs, but it's not exactly the boonies--there is a Walgreens within walking distance of my house and at least 2 more within 5 miles. Driving nearly 30 miles to a different Walgreens is absurd--and really something that most parents of infants don't have time for.

*I don't personally need formula. I'm just someone who is shocked and disgusted by this whole situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amazon's Mama Bear label too! Also made by PBM. So these store brands listed above are all interchangeable - all identical https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Formula-Milk-Based-Non-GMO/dp/B07RJFDGKH

Sure, but when will Amazon actually get this to you? I don't know if it varies by area, but when I click on that, it says it is expected to arrive (via Amazon Prime) May 27-June 5! So it really doesn't matter which formulas are "interchangeable" if NONE of them are in stock.

It's in stock at my Walgreens here. Under their label

Your Walgreens sells Amazon labeled products?

Walgreens generic infant formula is made by PBM/Perrigo - its identical to the formula manufactured by same company sold under other generic labels by CVS, Sam's Club, Walmart, and Amazon Mama Bear.