Is BYU all Mormon?

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Ha. Birth control. I had an argument with a mission companion about this in 2004. She insisted that Birth Control of any kind was forbidden. For reasons only she knew, she brought it up at a bishop's house to try and shame me into agreeing with her. He quoted various Prophets, but none of them after the 1980s. The Bishop used to teach Institute and pulled out the Manual for the Marriage class, which stated that couples are free to plan their families - implying heavily that Birth Control is okay, and a private matter for a couple.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious - are more LDS women still getting married young, but waiting several years to have kids so that they can get their careers established first? I know one LDS woman like this; she even showed off her implanted birth control in her arm.

Surprisingly, the LDS has no ban or moral issues with birth control as say, the Catholic Church does. But they are taught that having children is essential to God's plan and as such, they do tend to have children younger- but that might have to do with the fact they marry younger? Like if the average couple, both LDS and non-LDS waits 3 years after marriage to have kids...that means the average LDS couple would have kids at 26 since they, on average, get married at 23, whereas the average non-LDS couple gets married at 28 or whatever so they have their kid at 31. if that makes sense?

You are wrong. Go read the history of b.c. in the Mormon church in wiki.

You don't need to go to Wikipedia, just go straight to the source. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/birth-control?lang=eng

"The decision of how many children to have and when to have them is a private matter for the husband and wife."
Sexual relations within marriage are not only for the purpose of procreation, but also a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual ties between husband and wife


ER, no. How would I know about the biannual
meeting with the bishop (who us a lay person serving a 5 year term) if I weren’t LDS? AMA


FALSE. Ask any bishop. Go read

Husband and wife are encouraged to pray and counsel together as they plan their families. Issues to consider include the physical and mental health of the mother and father and their capacity to provide the basic necessities of life for their children.

Decisions about birth control and the consequences of those decisions rest solely with each married couple.

FALSE. Ask any bishop. Go read the 2003 edict. Could not be clearer. You are supposed to turn out as many babies as possible to give spirit children bodies. Of course the church tries to play cute on this issue as it did discriminating against black people - it which justified through 1976 by claiming that black people had asked to be born black, ergo it was ok to discriminate against them and deny the M priesthood. The church’s stance was abhorrent but the PR games even worse. And you are required to deliver scuds this at your meeting with great bishop. You are not supposed to be in bc in the Mormon church.

My dad was the bishop of our ward when I was growing up and I know my parents used BC. I'm not defending the church--I want nothing to do with it as an adult--but the church does not have a blanket ban against BC.

But good Mormons don’t use b.c. And if you do, it’s expected that you will disclose same during your biannual meetings with your bishop. Said bishop will also try to get you off b. c. because you need to be giving bodies to spirit babies

Right. I spent 35 years of my life immersed in the LDS church, went on a mission, dad was a bishop, had a temple recommend...but you know better. Because of your Wikipedia links.

are, no. How would I know about the biannual meeting with the lay bishop if I weren’t LDS? AMA

Bishops are supposed to stick to the pre-determined questions that the church puts out when doing their temple recommend interviews. I would be concerned if the temple recommend questions began to stray far from the standard, specifically if this is something that happened to you multiple times. I do know for reasons I don't want to get into that the Church is concerned with priesthood leaders "going rouge" and asking questions they should not be asking. Asking about such things like bc really should not be happening.

You might want to talk to the actual stake president and share your concern.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious - are more LDS women still getting married young, but waiting several years to have kids so that they can get their careers established first? I know one LDS woman like this; she even showed off her implanted birth control in her arm.

Surprisingly, the LDS has no ban or moral issues with birth control as say, the Catholic Church does. But they are taught that having children is essential to God's plan and as such, they do tend to have children younger- but that might have to do with the fact they marry younger? Like if the average couple, both LDS and non-LDS waits 3 years after marriage to have kids...that means the average LDS couple would have kids at 26 since they, on average, get married at 23, whereas the average non-LDS couple gets married at 28 or whatever so they have their kid at 31. if that makes sense?

You are wrong. Go read the history of b.c. in the Mormon church in wiki.

You don't need to go to Wikipedia, just go straight to the source. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/birth-control?lang=eng

"The decision of how many children to have and when to have them is a private matter for the husband and wife."
Sexual relations within marriage are not only for the purpose of procreation, but also a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual ties between husband and wife


ER, no. How would I know about the biannual
meeting with the bishop (who us a lay person serving a 5 year term) if I weren’t LDS? AMA


FALSE. Ask any bishop. Go read

Husband and wife are encouraged to pray and counsel together as they plan their families. Issues to consider include the physical and mental health of the mother and father and their capacity to provide the basic necessities of life for their children.

Decisions about birth control and the consequences of those decisions rest solely with each married couple.

FALSE. Ask any bishop. Go read the 2003 edict. Could not be clearer. You are supposed to turn out as many babies as possible to give spirit children bodies. Of course the church tries to play cute on this issue as it did discriminating against black people - it which justified through 1976 by claiming that black people had asked to be born black, ergo it was ok to discriminate against them and deny the M priesthood. The church’s stance was abhorrent but the PR games even worse. And you are required to deliver scuds this at your meeting with great bishop. You are not supposed to be in bc in the Mormon church.

My dad was the bishop of our ward when I was growing up and I know my parents used BC. I'm not defending the church--I want nothing to do with it as an adult--but the church does not have a blanket ban against BC.

But good Mormons don’t use b.c. And if you do, it’s expected that you will disclose same during your biannual meetings with your bishop. Said bishop will also try to get you off b. c. because you need to be giving bodies to spirit babies

Right. I spent 35 years of my life immersed in the LDS church, went on a mission, dad was a bishop, had a temple recommend...but you know better. Because of your Wikipedia links.

are, no. How would I know about the biannual meeting with the lay bishop if I weren’t LDS? AMA

Lol, I have posted on this thread a few times, and I know about those meetings, as well as lot of other LDS stuff. And I'm definitely not LDS, have just had a lot of LDS friends. It's not a huge secret.