Which universities have gone DOWN in stature over the years?

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

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Anonymous wrote:I think UMD has gone down recently. I remember a few years ago it was something like 35% acceptance rate and it's shot up to 45%

Wrong direction when applications are at an all time high and the Ivies are in single digits.

Opposite is true. It's gotten more prestigious and competitive. Previous 10 years, admit rate was 40s/50s%. In the 30s this year.

Nope, UMCP acceptance rate right now, is at 51%

Not even close. It was om the 30s this year after 41 last year, I think.

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On the other hand, Columbia has gone up, and has done it by messing with the numbers provided to USNWR. What does that say about this whole process?

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Based on rankings/selectivity, Bryn Mawr and Smith. I guess the appeal of single-sex college is waning. Wellesley seems to be fairing better. But there seems to be great demand for all schools in Boston area, beyond just Harvard and MIT -- eg. Tufts, BC, BU, NE, HC. There is no significant difference in academic rigor/amenities between Bryn Mawr and Haverford (or Swarthmore for that matter), but perception/ranking/selectivity is SWAT > HC > BMC

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Anonymous wrote:I think UMD has gone down recently. I remember a few years ago it was something like 35% acceptance rate and it's shot up to 45%

Wrong direction when applications are at an all time high and the Ivies are in single digits.

Opposite is true. It's gotten more prestigious and competitive. Previous 10 years, admit rate was 40s/50s%. In the 30s this year.

Nope, UMCP acceptance rate right now, is at 51%

Not even close. It was om the 30s this year after 41 last year, I think.

Try googling. Google says 51%

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Anonymous wrote:UChicago because of crime

You are too young to remember the 90s?

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Anonymous wrote:Based on rankings/selectivity, Bryn Mawr and Smith. I guess the appeal of single-sex college is waning. Wellesley seems to be fairing better. But there seems to be great demand for all schools in Boston area, beyond just Harvard and MIT -- eg. Tufts, BC, BU, NE, HC. There is no significant difference in academic rigor/amenities between Bryn Mawr and Haverford (or Swarthmore for that matter), but perception/ranking/selectivity is SWAT > HC > BMC

It kind of baffles me that, given their location, schools like Emerson, Suffolk, Simmons, Emmanuel and others are not in vogue.

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Anonymous wrote:This whole message board should be renamed Splitting Hairs.

+1

X10000000

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Anonymous wrote:Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley and Cornell have gone down.

Columbia, Hopkins, U Chicago, Stanford, Rice, MIT, CalTech came up.

Oh, you! First by assuming "stature" is a thing that matters and can be put on a scale. Second by starting your list with "Harvard" which literally has been the generic term for the #1 college since it's inception in 1636.

You silly person! Just stop!

Brown, Dartmouth, Berkeley down. Cornell down too (just look at rankings)

UP: JHU, Stanford and Chicago

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Anonymous wrote:I think UMD has gone down recently. I remember a few years ago it was something like 35% acceptance rate and it's shot up to 45%

Wrong direction when applications are at an all time high and the Ivies are in single digits.

Opposite is true. It's gotten more prestigious and competitive. Previous 10 years, admit rate was 40s/50s%. In the 30s this year.

What's the source for admission rate in the 30s?

UMD expanded its undergraduate class over the past 10 years by about 7k. Now it's in line with the Big 10 universities, Berkeley, UCLA, etc.

This is after the president in the 2000's did everything he could to reduce enrollment by 10k to improve competitiveness.

It really doesn't matter one way or the other.

It affects perception which affects reality.

And enrollment directly affects school culture and class sizes.

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Anonymous wrote:I think UMD has gone down recently. I remember a few years ago it was something like 35% acceptance rate and it's shot up to 45%

Wrong direction when applications are at an all time high and the Ivies are in single digits.

Opposite is true. It's gotten more prestigious and competitive. Previous 10 years, admit rate was 40s/50s%. In the 30s this year.

Nope, UMCP acceptance rate right now, is at 51%

Not even close. It was om the 30s this year after 41 last year, I think.

What's the source of acceptance rate in the 30s? 2020 was 51% according to Google.

They joined the Common App in the same year and became test-optional due to COVID, which explains the 10% drop to 40% for 2021.

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Anonymous wrote:I think UMD has gone down recently. I remember a few years ago it was something like 35% acceptance rate and it's shot up to 45%

Wrong direction when applications are at an all time high and the Ivies are in single digits.

Opposite is true. It's gotten more prestigious and competitive. Previous 10 years, admit rate was 40s/50s%. In the 30s this year.

Nope, UMCP acceptance rate right now, is at 51%

Not even close. It was om the 30s this year after 41 last year, I think.

Try googling. Google says 51%

That's for 2020. For 2021 it was 40%.

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Anonymous wrote:James madison if you’re from Virginia. Used to be for the kids that just missed UVA. Now, not so much.

Huh?

This contradicts everything I have ever read or heard about VA state schools

If anything, JMU seems to be on the rise.

JMU nearly doubled its enrollment size over the course of two decades, which of course increased its acceptance rate, giving the appearance that its quality was diminished, which it's not. Was it more desirable when it had 10,000 undergrads in the late 80s compared to over 20,000? For some, yes, but its increase in size makes a great public education accessible to many more Virginia residents. Eventually, that acceptance rate will continue to creep back down to its closer to 55% of the 80s and 90s. And since the only thing NOVA parents care about is stature and elitism, that acceptance rate will make it desirable again.

It only recently did common app? I feel like I might have submitted to them common app in the 90s
Plus JMU is now on the common application, which will increase applicants

JMU joined common app in 22
https://www.breezejmu.org/news/jmu-joins-the-common-app-to-create-more-diversity-on-campus/article_da69b09e-7f09-11ec-8ba8-3f26ecbaf5b6.html

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Anonymous wrote:I think UMD has gone down recently. I remember a few years ago it was something like 35% acceptance rate and it's shot up to 45%

Wrong direction when applications are at an all time high and the Ivies are in single digits.

Do you really think acceptance rate is an indication of quality? You are misguided.

Wow.

Any school can market to get more apps and reject more students in order to lower their acceptance rate. See: U of Chicago.

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Anonymous wrote:Syracuse

DISAGREE

Same. I think it's gone up.