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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

Too late, someone already picked up the torches and pitchforks for the mob.

Everyone I know who has been actively engaging the school and APS has actually said both. One, that he shouldn’t be there. Because two, This boy needs help including placement in a school that can provide the services he needs. APS and his parents have failed this kid, and now the school community as well by letting it get to this point. We are hopeful that they will work to keep our kids safe, AND also get him help. You can do both - want the school safe and hurt for this child who obviously desperately needs help.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

What should it be?? Hanging? Get a grip. He is a KID!

[Anonymous]

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So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

The suspension piece is what speaks to the immediate safety of the school community and therefore was shared. The email also references that APS policy is that any weapon or weapon-like object results in referral to the police (even though the police weren't immediately called, which is a whole separate issue).

Beyond that, whether and how they are getting him supports steps over into his privacy and is not a detail to be shared with everyone. Doesn't mean it isn't happening. It means that in the short term it's none of our business. Send good thoughts to the kid. Email the school, staff and SB to encourage them not to wait in future instances. Kids who are troubled in 4th grade don't magically become healthy and well by the time they reach middle school. We need to do better both at getting mental health resources to kids who need it, and in acting on school property to keep all kids safe, and in informing parents rather than hiding behind the veil of "privacy".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

What should it be?? Hanging? Get a grip. He is a KID!

That’s not how it went as there was a threat made by this child to the school for what he was already previously having disciplinary action for. When he returned to school he had a taser.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

The suspension piece is what speaks to the immediate safety of the school community and therefore was shared. The email also references that APS policy is that any weapon or weapon-like object results in referral to the police (even though the police weren't immediately called, which is a whole separate issue).

Beyond that, whether and how they are getting him supports steps over into his privacy and is not a detail to be shared with everyone. Doesn't mean it isn't happening. It means that in the short term it's none of our business. Send good thoughts to the kid. Email the school, staff and SB to encourage them not to wait in future instances. Kids who are troubled in 4th grade don't magically become healthy and well by the time they reach middle school. We need to do better both at getting mental health resources to kids who need it, and in acting on school property to keep all kids safe, and in informing parents rather than hiding behind the veil of "privacy".

Interesting point. I wonder how his elementary school principal feels about how previous incidents were handled…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

What should it be?? Hanging? Get a grip. He is a KID!

That’s not how it went as there was a threat made by this child to the school for what he was already previously having disciplinary action for. When he returned to school he had a taser.

How many suspensions should he get? Threatening...weapon...come on people send him to an alternative option. What will he do next???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What support do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

What should it be?? Hanging? Get a grip. He is a KID!

That’s not how it went as there was a threat made by this child to the school for what he was already previously having disciplinary action for. When he returned to school he had a taser.

#fakenews

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else considering reaching to the administration on Monday to see what threat level we might expect on Tuesday. In other words, will this kid be at school and/or will police be onsite? With spring break discussion of this has subsided on DCUM, AEM and the Swanson FB page but it's been on my mind.

And what makes us think he'll limit his eyes on Swanson? If he's not allowed back and not in any sort of help program, he can literally go anywhere.

Because he made his threats against Swanson it's not unreasonable that parents there might be a little more worried than at other random schools. Compassion, please.

You are misunderstanding. This kid went to elementary school with kids at Kenmore too. He can probably walk to WMS and Hamm. I'm saying if no one is really helping this kid, putting him in an appropriate program, he can literally cause havoc anywhere. He's a threat to the community.

I'm not misunderstanding, I'm saying please stop making it about you and focus on the safety of the immediate area of concern. Of course he is possibly a risk to the broader community, but at this very moment the threat he made was against one particular school. Rather than making it all about yourself and your child at another school could you please give space for the families at this school (you know, the one whose name is the title of the thread) whose kids are on the receiving end of those threats?

I understand that you have tunnel vision because you are at Swanson. I'm not personally worried this kid will come to my child's school, not even in the slightest. I'm worried about the disservice to kids like this who apparently need help - suspension does nothing. What su

pport do they offer to reduce the threat?

School does nothing either. The child needs real ongoing mental health support and that isn't what the school can provide.

I disagree and think that suspension is needed for the safety of the rest of the students. The safety of other students is not "nothing".
Suspension also offers this students a respite from school which might be causing serious anxiety.

they did suspend him

So bringing a taser only gets a suspension?

What should it be?? Hanging? Get a grip. He is a KID!

And it was a Taser, not a loaded gun.

[Anonymous]

Whoa. I thought Swanson was one of the more sought after schools?

[Anonymous]

Something like this can happen at any middle school. Truly.

[Anonymous]

True. I guess I'm just surprised. We were just driving past there today and admiring the neighborhood as a step up to where we are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:True. I guess I'm just surprised. We were just driving past there today and admiring the neighborhood as a step up to where we are!

This is a very strange position. Events like people are fearing in this thread have happened primarily in “nice” neighborhoods at “good” schools. You can’t buy safety from this, not in this f***ed up country with its gun culture.