I want transparency and accountability from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.

https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

This is false. It's a very sensible system and financially makes a lot of sense. For some reason, it's just not popular on this forum. In California, many TOP students go the community college transfer route (my cousin, included). Many from my public high school did it. https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/admission-requirements/transfer-requirements/

It’s a snob area.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.
https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

You validate that path, but put it down at the same time. It's not for everyone, but it's a smart option if you want a UVA degree and didn't get in.

Anyway...

If OP wanted a guarantee for UVA. There is one. They laid it out on the website.
If OP wanted a guarantee for a state school in Virginia, there pretty much is one. Mary Washington, Radford, and Longwood are usually under-enrolled on May 1.

Read the title, OP wanted transparency in the admission process, at UVA and any other VA school. Not the guess work based on some schev data or wild assumptions by some posters here.

SCHEV is hard data. Parents on here just don't want to be bothered to read the report. If OP had bothered, they would know the statistics of last fall's entering class which was 1510/1460/1400 for 75th/50th and 25th percentile for SAT. A 35/34/32 for ACT. and a GPA of 4.52/4.39 and 4.23 for bottom 25th GPA. Those are the students who actually showed up, not the ones who got in but choose an Ivy or SLAC instead. So you need to aim at least for the 75th percentile if coming from NOVA and unhooked. SCHEV also provides the same data for all prior years so don't listen to the people who say "but that's only the stats of the kids who submitted tests". Look at the GPA. SCHEV also breaks down for in-state v OOS, etc. Plug in any public or private school in Virginia - the data is all here: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing my rising senior is in the top 5% FCPS HS with his only "blemish" being an A- in Honors Algebra in 7th grade, but since the school doesn't rank, I can only guess. SAT is in excess of 75th. Unfortunately the dummy has absolutely no interest in UVA. I cant get a straight answer. No issue with applying to W&M, Tech and VCU (along with schools up North).

Having no interest in UVa may lead him to a better marriage, truer friends, and enriched cultural experiences. Some Echols scholars at UVa end up bigoted, estranged from formerly beloved dads, stepping on all their friends and crying about loneliness, bitterly in a non-amicable divorce, or hiring a fake sibling for their wedding. UVa students do have it all on paper though and in-state bang for the buck is great.

A huge part of the problem is the honor committee is constantly rewarding lying, stealing, and academic "advantages" such as bullying someone out of office hours or taking their backpack during non 40-minute signed honor agreements. They completely condone EVERYTHING for "favored" students with a "seriousness" clause. They also teach "Black bus stop" and knowing who to pick on with C-graded curves at 96% correctness for getting to keep your major or get a senior research project.

What kind of parent calls their A-student kid "Dummy"? Would you be more motivated to attend a place where the only way to get people to go is to name call them? DS may be wise beyond his years.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.
https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

You validate that path, but put it down at the same time. It's not for everyone, but it's a smart option if you want a UVA degree and didn't get in.

Anyway...

If OP wanted a guarantee for UVA. There is one. They laid it out on the website.
If OP wanted a guarantee for a state school in Virginia, there pretty much is one. Mary Washington, Radford, and Longwood are usually under-enrolled on May 1.

Read the title, OP wanted transparency in the admission process, at UVA and any other VA school. Not the guess work based on some schev data or wild assumptions by some posters here.

SCHEV is hard data. Parents on here just don't want to be bothered to read the report. If OP had bothered, they would know the statistics of last fall's entering class which was 1510/1460/1400 for 75th/50th and 25th percentile for SAT. A 35/34/32 for ACT. and a GPA of 4.52/4.39 and 4.23 for bottom 25th GPA. Those are the students who actually showed up, not the ones who got in but choose an Ivy or SLAC instead. So you need to aim at least for the 75th percentile if coming from NOVA and unhooked. SCHEV also provides the same data for all prior years so don't listen to the people who say "but that's only the stats of the kids who submitted tests". Look at the GPA. SCHEV also breaks down for in-state v OOS, etc. Plug in any public or private school in Virginia - the data is all here: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.

Yes, just keep reiterating the obvious points that you have beaten down to death in many threads. We don’t need schev to figure out there is correlation between the GPA/SAT and admission chances at UVA. There is nothing in schev that can explain why two applicants with identical stats get different outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.
https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

You validate that path, but put it down at the same time. It's not for everyone, but it's a smart option if you want a UVA degree and didn't get in.

Anyway...

If OP wanted a guarantee for UVA. There is one. They laid it out on the website.
If OP wanted a guarantee for a state school in Virginia, there pretty much is one. Mary Washington, Radford, and Longwood are usually under-enrolled on May 1.

Read the title, OP wanted transparency in the admission process, at UVA and any other VA school. Not the guess work based on some schev data or wild assumptions by some posters here.

SCHEV is hard data. Parents on here just don't want to be bothered to read the report. If OP had bothered, they would know the statistics of last fall's entering class which was 1510/1460/1400 for 75th/50th and 25th percentile for SAT. A 35/34/32 for ACT. and a GPA of 4.52/4.39 and 4.23 for bottom 25th GPA. Those are the students who actually showed up, not the ones who got in but choose an Ivy or SLAC instead. So you need to aim at least for the 75th percentile if coming from NOVA and unhooked. SCHEV also provides the same data for all prior years so don't listen to the people who say "but that's only the stats of the kids who submitted tests". Look at the GPA. SCHEV also breaks down for in-state v OOS, etc. Plug in any public or private school in Virginia - the data is all here: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.

Yes, just keep reiterating the obvious points that you have beaten down to death in many threads. We don’t need schev to figure out there is correlation between the GPA/SAT and admission chances at UVA. There is nothing in schev that can explain why two applicants with identical stats get different outcomes.

Identical majors, identical ECs, identical essays, identical athletics?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.
https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

You validate that path, but put it down at the same time. It's not for everyone, but it's a smart option if you want a UVA degree and didn't get in.

Anyway...

If OP wanted a guarantee for UVA. There is one. They laid it out on the website.
If OP wanted a guarantee for a state school in Virginia, there pretty much is one. Mary Washington, Radford, and Longwood are usually under-enrolled on May 1.

Read the title, OP wanted transparency in the admission process, at UVA and any other VA school. Not the guess work based on some schev data or wild assumptions by some posters here.

SCHEV is hard data. Parents on here just don't want to be bothered to read the report. If OP had bothered, they would know the statistics of last fall's entering class which was 1510/1460/1400 for 75th/50th and 25th percentile for SAT. A 35/34/32 for ACT. and a GPA of 4.52/4.39 and 4.23 for bottom 25th GPA. Those are the students who actually showed up, not the ones who got in but choose an Ivy or SLAC instead. So you need to aim at least for the 75th percentile if coming from NOVA and unhooked. SCHEV also provides the same data for all prior years so don't listen to the people who say "but that's only the stats of the kids who submitted tests". Look at the GPA. SCHEV also breaks down for in-state v OOS, etc. Plug in any public or private school in Virginia - the data is all here: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.

Yes, just keep reiterating the obvious points that you have beaten down to death in many threads. We don’t need schev to figure out there is correlation between the GPA/SAT and admission chances at UVA. There is nothing in schev that can explain why two applicants with identical stats get different outcomes.

OP wants transparency. SCHEV provides that - more so than any other state. Many parents don't know that. Look up any public or private school there and you can easily figure out if your child has the stats to feel comfortable on campus. IT's a terrific tool

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.
https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

You validate that path, but put it down at the same time. It's not for everyone, but it's a smart option if you want a UVA degree and didn't get in.

Anyway...

If OP wanted a guarantee for UVA. There is one. They laid it out on the website.
If OP wanted a guarantee for a state school in Virginia, there pretty much is one. Mary Washington, Radford, and Longwood are usually under-enrolled on May 1.

Read the title, OP wanted transparency in the admission process, at UVA and any other VA school. Not the guess work based on some schev data or wild assumptions by some posters here.

SCHEV is hard data. Parents on here just don't want to be bothered to read the report. If OP had bothered, they would know the statistics of last fall's entering class which was 1510/1460/1400 for 75th/50th and 25th percentile for SAT. A 35/34/32 for ACT. and a GPA of 4.52/4.39 and 4.23 for bottom 25th GPA. Those are the students who actually showed up, not the ones who got in but choose an Ivy or SLAC instead. So you need to aim at least for the 75th percentile if coming from NOVA and unhooked. SCHEV also provides the same data for all prior years so don't listen to the people who say "but that's only the stats of the kids who submitted tests". Look at the GPA. SCHEV also breaks down for in-state v OOS, etc. Plug in any public or private school in Virginia - the data is all here: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.

Yes, just keep reiterating the obvious points that you have beaten down to death in many threads. We don’t need schev to figure out there is correlation between the GPA/SAT and admission chances at UVA. There is nothing in schev that can explain why two applicants with identical stats get different outcomes.

Colleges are like employers...stats are not the only thing that matter, no matter how we choose to view our kids as numbers. Sometimes, someone with the same experience and education as another gets the job because the hiring manager thought they were a better fit.

Two kids with the same GPA,SAT etc may have different essays, different ECs, different sports and interests or better recommendations.

Even if you meet the minimum stats, you're not owed a spot, esp when a gazillion kids with the exact same numbers are also applying.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.
https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

You validate that path, but put it down at the same time. It's not for everyone, but it's a smart option if you want a UVA degree and didn't get in.

Anyway...

If OP wanted a guarantee for UVA. There is one. They laid it out on the website.
If OP wanted a guarantee for a state school in Virginia, there pretty much is one. Mary Washington, Radford, and Longwood are usually under-enrolled on May 1.

Read the title, OP wanted transparency in the admission process, at UVA and any other VA school. Not the guess work based on some schev data or wild assumptions by some posters here.

SCHEV is hard data. Parents on here just don't want to be bothered to read the report. If OP had bothered, they would know the statistics of last fall's entering class which was 1510/1460/1400 for 75th/50th and 25th percentile for SAT. A 35/34/32 for ACT. and a GPA of 4.52/4.39 and 4.23 for bottom 25th GPA. Those are the students who actually showed up, not the ones who got in but choose an Ivy or SLAC instead. So you need to aim at least for the 75th percentile if coming from NOVA and unhooked. SCHEV also provides the same data for all prior years so don't listen to the people who say "but that's only the stats of the kids who submitted tests". Look at the GPA. SCHEV also breaks down for in-state v OOS, etc. Plug in any public or private school in Virginia - the data is all here: https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.

Yes, just keep reiterating the obvious points that you have beaten down to death in many threads. We don’t need schev to figure out there is correlation between the GPA/SAT and admission chances at UVA. There is nothing in schev that can explain why two applicants with identical stats get different outcomes.

Colleges are like employers...stats are not the only thing that matter, no matter how we choose to view our kids as numbers. Sometimes, someone with the same experience and education as another gets the job because the hiring manager thought they were a better fit.

Two kids with the same GPA,SAT etc may have different essays, different ECs, different sports and interests or better recommendations.

Even if you meet the minimum stats, you're not owed a spot, esp when a gazillion kids with the exact same numbers are also applying.

Is the OP new to the US?

She seems very unfamiliar with US college admissions in general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm guessing my rising senior is in the top 5% FCPS HS with his only "blemish" being an A- in Honors Algebra in 7th grade, but since the school doesn't rank, I can only guess. SAT is in excess of 75th. Unfortunately the dummy has absolutely no interest in UVA. I cant get a straight answer. No issue with applying to W&M, Tech and VCU (along with schools up North).

Having no interest in UVa may lead him to a better marriage, truer friends, and enriched cultural experiences. Some Echols scholars at UVa end up bigoted, estranged from formerly beloved dads, stepping on all their friends and crying about loneliness, bitterly in a non-amicable divorce, or hiring a fake sibling for their wedding. UVa students do have it all on paper though and in-state bang for the buck is great.

A huge part of the problem is the honor committee is constantly rewarding lying, stealing, and academic "advantages" such as bullying someone out of office hours or taking their backpack during non 40-minute signed honor agreements. They completely condone EVERYTHING for "favored" students with a "seriousness" clause. They also teach "Black bus stop" and knowing who to pick on with C-graded curves at 96% correctness for getting to keep your major or get a senior research project.

What kind of parent calls their A-student kid "Dummy"? Would you be more motivated to attend a place where the only way to get people to go is to name call them? DS may be wise beyond his years.

"Dummy" was in jest...silly kid goofball, etc

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

This is not the way any college selects students. Why would you want that. There is no formula.

UT is required to do just that by state law. Virginia could impose the same standards on state schools if they choose to

No they can't UT is not UVA. Size matters.

Sure the Commonwealth could do the same. Just say top 2% high schoolers with X SAT/ACT get to go. Done.

Okay, playing that game for Fairfax county:

HS Graduates Total 14.057
2% = 281 to be enrolled per your suggestion
Currently Admission rate to UVA 1,315 students with a yield rate around 50%

So according to your idea, and going with that yield rate, only 562 students from Fairfax county should be offered admission into UVA with the hopes half decline.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

This is not the way any college selects students. Why would you want that. There is no formula.

UT is required to do just that by state law. Virginia could impose the same standards on state schools if they choose to

No they can't UT is not UVA. Size matters.

Sure the Commonwealth could do the same. Just say top 2% high schoolers with X SAT/ACT get to go. Done.

Okay, playing that game for Fairfax county:

HS Graduates Total 14.057
2% = 281 to be enrolled per your suggestion
Currently Admission rate to UVA 1,315 students with a yield rate around 50%

So according to your idea, and going with that yield rate, only 562 students from Fairfax county should be offered admission into UVA with the hopes half decline.

What is it too few? Too many? You can adjust numbers, bring SAT into play. Or use any other factors that are allowed by law but be clear about them. Like other posters mentioned the rest of the world figured out how to do it. It is not rocket science

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

This is not the way any college selects students. Why would you want that. There is no formula.

UT is required to do just that by state law. Virginia could impose the same standards on state schools if they choose to

No they can't UT is not UVA. Size matters.

Sure the Commonwealth could do the same. Just say top 2% high schoolers with X SAT/ACT get to go. Done.

Okay, playing that game for Fairfax county:

HS Graduates Total 14.057
2% = 281 to be enrolled per your suggestion
Currently Admission rate to UVA 1,315 students with a yield rate around 50%

So according to your idea, and going with that yield rate, only 562 students from Fairfax county should be offered admission into UVA with the hopes half decline.

What is it too few? Too many? You can adjust numbers, bring SAT into play. Or use any other factors that are allowed by law but be clear about them. Like other posters mentioned the rest of the world figured out how to do it. It is not rocket science

The legislature can pass the law and let the school figure it out. Fewer OOS and foreign students would make the numbers work (that's what UT did)

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Texas doesn't make UT Austin grow. It is already over 50K students. If the number qualified exceed the number of spots, they can increase the class rank requirement until it is balanced. So it started off at top 10%, but it has gone to top 6% I believe at UT Austin.

[Anonymous]

Either this is a highly disgruntled parent of a deferred/rejected student or someone testing the waters on what next to get parents worked up after CRT.

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It is great there is such an option for kids who need more time to come up to speed academically or who are in a very unfortunate financial/personal position to start a four year college. It is silly to suggest this route to academically high achieving kids.

This is false. It's a very sensible system and financially makes a lot of sense. For some reason, it's just not popular on this forum. In California, many TOP students go the community college transfer route (my cousin, included). Many from my public high school did it. https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/admission-requirements/transfer-requirements/

I'm also from CA, and while it was a very popular option, it definitely was not the "TOP" students. I just looked at my program from graduation (mid 90s) and none of the students listed as having a 4.0+ or 3.5+ went to community college.