I’d say there are a lot of entitled princes here who never served food, and it shows. |
Entitled in what way? |
I waited tables for 15 years on and off. I grew up in the restaurant industry and my parents ran a franchise of a deli that is popular in the South. Customer were nevvvvvvverrrr expected to tip, there was not even a tip jar. Every single person working there made minimum wage or more. Sometimes customers would leave a few dollars because of food being delivered and the tables being cleaned but it wasnt expected because it isnt being served and the restaurant bore the cost of paying their employees (what a novel idea!). I do not tip 20% for takeout but we only takeout at places like MOD, Chipotle, Nandos,BGR. Those employees are paid minimum wage. I would not tip if I walked into the listed restaurants and was never expected to. It is not the same as say getting takeout from Outback, which traditionally has their own takeout person who makes a wage between server and minimum. If it is a restaurant that has serving staff, you need to tip any staff that serve you because restaurants love to play with positions and pay to get the most out of their employees with the least money. I do tip at places like First Watch, local restaurants that have sit down service, etc. If there are less restaurants the ones that exist will be busier. |
People tip at restaurants for sit down service. If you aren’t getting service, there is no tipped to be earned. Sure they can tip out of charity. But it isn’t the customers responsibility to make sure you make minimum wage. That is on your employer, and you are legally entitled to it. Perhaps restaurant owners should have separate takeout workers that make a higher wage than the tipped sit down service employees. But either way, this isn’t the costumers problem to figure out and they don’t owe you a tip because poor you doesn’t get enough sit down customers and your employer won’t pay you |
Really come off it. This is always said when anyone says anything against the ridiculous tipping culture that is happening. Yes I have served, for years and years. And no, it isn’t the hardest job on the planet like servers want to wine about now to guilt people into thinking they should be tipping 20+% or else they are some terrible cheap miser |
| We tipped when servers were making $3 an hour. They are making $15 an hour now. |
No. At least in VA, they are still making around $3/hr. |
| I think the most ridiculous one is Sweet Frogs. I am supposed to tip 15% to the person who did nothing other than ring up our ice cream cups at the register? |
I mean, Christians…. |
You should definitely stiff the low paid workers over this. Maybe rant at them too. |
NP here. I am almost certain that the electronic tips at the Subway, Firehouse, etc. are not being given to the low paid staff. They are being taken by the franchise owner. |
No they are not. Ugh servers are exempt from minimum wage! "Although servers make far less than the standard federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour, restaurants are legally supposed to pay the difference when those employees' pay falls short of that amount. But servers complain many restaurants often skimp on topping off their pay if they don't make enough in tips. The tipped wage structure is a relic of the Jim Crow era, when businesses looked for ways to avoid paying a full wage to African Americans and women. People of color and women today make up a huge chunk of the tipped workforce, and discrimination and sexism persist, affecting servers such as Melton. The most recent Democratic proposal to hike the minimum wage would scrap this two-tiered system. Businesses would have to pay every worker at least $15 an hour, whether they make tips or not. Forecasters from the Congressional Budget Office say boosting the minimum wage to $15 an hour would deliver a pay raise to as many as 27 million Americans, but they caution it would also cost as many as 1.4 million jobs. The plan didn't make it into the latest coronavirus relief, but the Biden administration has pledged to keep pushing the issue..... But research generally shows those who live on tips tend to make less than those earning a higher minimum wage. According to the Economic Policy Institute, a greater proportion of workers live below the poverty line in states where the tipped minimum wage structure is in place, compared with those living in states where employers must pay the same minimum wage to all hourly workers. The Economic Policy Institute found that restaurants in those states were generally able to absorb the higher wage costs by moderate price increases, less turnover and higher productivity. |
Just because you're too poor or cheap doesn't mean an entire industry needs to reinvent itself to cater to you. |
Please stop the tired trope of people being “too poor and/cheap” if they don’t tip for takeout or over 20% for dine in. It has nothing to do with being poor or cheap. |
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I have waited tables and I have also run the carryout counter at a local family restaurant, which had about 10 orders to fill a night. When I ran carryout, I also helped out in the kitchen.
All that to say, even for bad service I tip 10% to waitstaff (since they will be taxed on this anyways) and I give $2-5 tips to the worker who dealt with my carryout order. Those people do not get major tips and probably are making minimum wage, unlike waitstaff who make less but receive a ton more in tips. However - the increase in restaurant prices is very noticeable and has kept us from eating out as often. Even with the increase in grocery prices, it is outpacing them. |