Anonymous wrote:Title says it all. What careers do varsity athletes at top colleges pursue after graduation? For example, where does a male, varsity crew/lacrosse/squash player at Harvard land? I understand that they’re in demand.
I personally know of four.
One is a math teacher, one is a lobbyist and one teaches cardiology at the University of Michigan. One used his NBA money to buy a ranch and go pheasant hunting.
My perception is that all of these people were normal good, smart student athletes, and not prodigies. They all loved their sport and worked hard, but they weren’t fanatics and weren’t pushed in any unusual way by their parents, as far as I can tell.
Former D1 golf athlete here, graduated from Ohio State in 2014. Currently in software sale for $1.2M per year. Funny thing is that I graduated with a 2.7 GPA but it didn’t really matter.
OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Agreed - the major, internships, strength of academic programs is what gets you hired. No one is hiring you because you played a sport, anymore than if you were in a sorority (leadership skills, interpersonal skills, teamwork, philanthropy, time management, etc). Silly to think otherwise. Clearly, your student didn’t pick a good enough major for you to think it wasn’t necessary.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…
Unless you are focused on the Big Laws’ softball team…
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…
Glad you think you’re funny. But, apparently you do go in looking for an officer of the pretzel club. Gotcha! Big 3 of what? Accounting firms that do ops consulting? Not what I’m talking about.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…
Glad you think you’re funny. But, apparently you do go in looking for an officer of the pretzel club. Gotcha! Big 3 of what? Accounting firms that do ops consulting? Not what I’m talking about.
I’m sorry that you do not have a good handle on what big business and consulting firms are seeking…an ivy is very impressive, but the major has to match. We will not hire a non-business major for finance, for example, unless you have the experience (through internships, etc). No one will take a chance, just because you played a sport (or joined a sorority, or was captain of the pretzel club). Just the facts, here. What was your students major, BTW?
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…
Glad you think you’re funny. But, apparently you do go in looking for an officer of the pretzel club. Gotcha! Big 3 of what? Accounting firms that do ops consulting? Not what I’m talking about.
I’m sorry that you do not have a good handle on what big business and consulting firms are seeking…an ivy is very impressive, but the major has to match. We will not hire a non-business major for finance, for example, unless you have the experience (through internships, etc). No one will take a chance, just because you played a sport (or joined a sorority, or was captain of the pretzel club). Just the facts, here. What was your students major, BTW?
But, I will give you credit that if all things are fairly equal, we will select a student athlete over president of the pretzel club…but again, it’s a tie breaker, not a slam dunk…academics (from top tier schools) and internships are a heavy factors, athletics a far third…
Finance seems to be a field they gravitate towards. I work in finance and just went to a state school, not an athlete, but I work alongside a few guys who went to ivies and played sports there.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I thought I’d address some of the posters on pages 5-10. First, lots of them forgot that I asked about athletes at top schools ONLY. Why? Because, as many knowledgeable and on-topic posters noted, athletes at top colleges are different from their peers at less-selective, athletic powerhouses, like UAlabama. Athletes at top colleges must meet the school’s regular academic standards. For example, I know a Princeton baseball recruit that needed a 1500 SAT to join the team. Also, these athletes don’t get scholarships. Second, many posters thought it was odd that I didn’t ask about majors. Apparently, they couldn’t make the connection between sport and career. The connection is that athletes are typically competitive, team-oriented, social, goal-oriented, positive/optimistic, and disciplined, all of which are prized traits in high-octane professional circles. Athletes also have to balance two rigorous activities - sports and athletics. That is very hard to do, and may show a commitment to a more balanced, interesting lifestyle. So, the major doesn’t matter because the employer is not hiring an athlete for their major. Instead, they’re hiring a really smart, attractive person with character who is likely to succeed. What about students at top schools with perfect grades? Well, that’s great for a PhD, but not for competitive business, law, and medicine. Just some thoughts.
We missed you, as this is hilarious…read it slowly to yourself and you may laugh at this too…I am a recruiter for a Fortune 500 megacorp, and we are not specifically looking for athletes. We are looking at majors / academic discipline and participation in organizations and internships related to the field. In all honesty, I’m more impressed by a candidate who worked through college than in someone who played a game through college. Several of my professional colleagues agree…unless you went to Alabama or other athletic powerhouse and played at a high level - which says a lot about handling the stress of business…we hire ivy grads for the academics, not the clubs or sports…
Perhaps, you recruit for programmers, engineers, and the like, but you certainly do not recruit for high-end consulting, finance, or big law.
Yeah, I go in looking for a left fielder…I’m talking big business here, but applies to all those as well. I used to recruit for Big 3, and again, your assumptions on hiring are broken…sorry…
Glad you think you’re funny. But, apparently you do go in looking for an officer of the pretzel club. Gotcha! Big 3 of what? Accounting firms that do ops consulting? Not what I’m talking about.
I’m sorry that you do not have a good handle on what big business and consulting firms are seeking…an ivy is very impressive, but the major has to match. We will not hire a non-business major for finance, for example, unless you have the experience (through internships, etc). No one will take a chance, just because you played a sport (or joined a sorority, or was captain of the pretzel club). Just the facts, here. What was your students major, BTW?
Re-read what you wrote. You WILL hire a non-business major for a finance job if they have experience through relevant internships. I never said that athletes at top schools don’t pursue internships. So, if you’re comparing a excellent economics student with minor extracurriculars at a top school to a history major who is also an athlete at a top school, who would you pick for an IB job, all else equal?