Why D1 if the school is only so so?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay - quizzed my kid’s old coach. 19 years head coach for a D1 college and current DD for a big Florida club.

About 80% of the Power5 schools will offer the full 14 for women’s teams, but a good many - those in particular pumping fake numbers for women’s crew will trim that back to 10 or 12.

Once you move out of the Power5 - the percentages go way up of teams that will have 1-5 women’s scholarships for a team. His view was that about a third of the nonPower5 teams were in the 1-5 range. Another third would be 6-10.

These numbers are not remotely true.

Schools that are perennially in the top 30 that are not Power 5 also likely give the full 14 scholarships, divided up among the players on the roster. A half here, a quarter there, three-quarters to another person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where can I find the athletic budgets for a given school?

I’m not aware of any single source that consolidates this info, but I feel confident that the PP who claimed there are many D1 schools offering only 1 or 2 soccer scholarships is incorrect. Among good academic D1 schools with men’s soccer, I know several of the Patriot League programs are not fully funded and the same is true of Northwestern. We know kids playing on various soccer teams in most of the Power 5 conference, and all their teams offer the full 9.9 scholarships.

You’ll be able to get this info during the recruiting process, but it would be nice if some helpful person like the guy who does this great work could pull it together. https://scholarshipstats.com/soccer

It's too bad this isn't by club rather than HS. Club is what gets you a soccer scholarship not HS. These stats would be great for football or track but not soccer. If you remove the #of HS players and replace with # of Club players the % is much greater. Look at the club statistics. BTW - this site hasn't changed in 15 years - they just update the #of schools as they add or drop soccer. It's not really relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay - quizzed my kid’s old coach. 19 years head coach for a D1 college and current DD for a big Florida club.

About 80% of the Power5 schools will offer the full 14 for women’s teams, but a good many - those in particular pumping fake numbers for women’s crew will trim that back to 10 or 12.

Once you move out of the Power5 - the percentages go way up of teams that will have 1-5 women’s scholarships for a team. His view was that about a third of the nonPower5 teams were in the 1-5 range. Another third would be 6-10.

These numbers are not remotely true.

Schools that are perennially in the top 30 that are not Power 5 also likely give the full 14 scholarships, divided up among the players on the roster. A half here, a quarter there, three-quarters to another person.

Still not remotely true with the top 30 comment

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

this was already said previously

There is not a single thing in any of these soccer threads that has not been said previously. So what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a college thread not a pro thread

Your kid is not playing pro.

I never understand why people love to say that on here. I’m quite certain that the parents of Kevin Paredes, Drew Skundrich, and every single other male pro-soccer player with a supportive family wondered at some point prior to the tween years whether their talented kid had what it took to make it. They then invested the time and/or money needed to help their kid get there, just like some of the PPs on here are starting to do. I think everyone is aware that the odds are slim, but you can’t win if you don’t play. Many of the kids who have pro dreams and a lot of talent at 10 will end up playing in college, many won’t even get to that level ultimately, and a few will, indeed, go pro instead of attending, or after graduating from, college.

Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long for someone to say that. It’s just jealousy. Ppl arnd here spend lots of time and money to make their kids better and more competitive, and put pressure on them, to no avail. They assume everyone else is too.

This entire thread is hilarious. Do you have any idea how many kids in the DMV area will not even commit to a D1 program? Especially this year? The amount will be staggering. All D1 programs from which you receive any type of money should be lauded. Those girls have worked their tails off for years to play at a higher level and deserve to be congratulated. Every year, those rankings shift as new talent enters and departs. The question posed in this thread is absurd. Going D1 is a huge accomplishment that will make these girls' collegiate years unforgettable. Going PRO is not just for those in high D1 programs, just as being a PRO player does not imply that you will be a good coach one day. Many professional players attended small-town colleges. Do you know why we all enroll our children in sports? It's about much more than just being the best or playing at the highest levels. Most people want it to help shape their child’s character and give them a sense of strong purpose and incredible self-esteem. So, to answer your perplexing question. Yes, it is well worth it because all D1 programs, regardless of ranking, are strong.

Most of the McLean, VDA, FCV, Loudoun girls will commit to D1 unless they go IVY. Go back into the forum and find the discussion about this. It's about 97% of the kids commit to D1 or Ivy

The question discussed in this thread is why? Why commit to an academically low level D1 school. Does that benefit the player as opposed to a more suitable school that is not a D1 school. Some say yes, some say no.

[Anonymous]

well lets see -- the numbers are reasonably simple to extrapolate from the EIA data.

Let's take a small Virginia NCAA Division 1 college -- Norfolk

According to their filings: In 2020 they gave out about 1,315,000 in women's athletic scholarships. At a current tuition room and board cost of $27500 per year for an in state student thats about 48 scholarships.

Lelt's see then: Women's Basketball -- 13 That's fully funded because the filings have to break out football and basketball, and women's basketball is budgeted at over 1.2 million.

And, you insist that women's soccer is fully funded at - 14

That leaves Track and field and cross country combined which fully fund at 18

But wait -- we still have Softball, Tennis, Volleyball and Bowling. And, we have 4 scholarships combined to divide up among those sports. Hmmmm.

It is obvious that a ton of schools do not fully fund women's soccer scholarships. I would hazard a guess Norfolk is about 4 or 5 for the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

this was already said previously

There is not a single thing in any of these soccer threads that has not been said previously. So what?

so why post a reply - go home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:well lets see -- the numbers are reasonably simple to extrapolate from the EIA data.

Let's take a small Virginia NCAA Division 1 college -- Norfolk

According to their filings: In 2020 they gave out about 1,315,000 in women's athletic scholarships. At a current tuition room and board cost of $27500 per year for an in state student thats about 48 scholarships.

Lelt's see then: Women's Basketball -- 13 That's fully funded because the filings have to break out football and basketball, and women's basketball is budgeted at over 1.2 million.

And, you insist that women's soccer is fully funded at - 14

That leaves Track and field and cross country combined which fully fund at 18

But wait -- we still have Softball, Tennis, Volleyball and Bowling. And, we have 4 scholarships combined to divide up among those sports. Hmmmm.

It is obvious that a ton of schools do not fully fund women's soccer scholarships. I would hazard a guess Norfolk is about 4 or 5 for the team.

Norfolk is an HBCU.

And stop “hazarding” a guess

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:well lets see -- the numbers are reasonably simple to extrapolate from the EIA data.

Let's take a small Virginia NCAA Division 1 college -- Norfolk

According to their filings: In 2020 they gave out about 1,315,000 in women's athletic scholarships. At a current tuition room and board cost of $27500 per year for an in state student thats about 48 scholarships.

Lelt's see then: Women's Basketball -- 13 That's fully funded because the filings have to break out football and basketball, and women's basketball is budgeted at over 1.2 million.

And, you insist that women's soccer is fully funded at - 14

That leaves Track and field and cross country combined which fully fund at 18

But wait -- we still have Softball, Tennis, Volleyball and Bowling. And, we have 4 scholarships combined to divide up among those sports. Hmmmm.

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Volleyball fully funds at 12, Softball at 12, Tennis at 8 and Bowling at 5 so another 37 scholarships to add to the 45 previously. Did they lie about the $1.3 million number? Maybe Norfolk was intentionally under reporting their women athletic scholarships so people did not think they were actually obeying Title IX laws. Yeah -- that's the ticket.







It is obvious that a ton of schools do not fully fund women's soccer scholarships. I would hazard a guess Norfolk is about 4 or 5 for the team.

[Anonymous]

University of Richmond --

Women's sports: Basketball, Track/X-Country, Field Hockey, Golf, Lacrosse, Soccer, Swimming, Tennis

That's, in order, 13, 18, 12, 6, 12, 14, 14 and 8 That's 97 total allowed for the women's sports played at the school. At $70k per that would be $6,890,000. But, the stated expense for women's athletics was

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:University of Richmond --

Women's sports: Basketball, Track/X-Country, Field Hockey, Golf, Lacrosse, Soccer, Swimming, Tennis

That's, in order, 13, 18, 12, 6, 12, 14, 14 and 8 That's 97 total allowed for the women's sports played at the school. At $70k per that would be $6,890,000. But, the stated expense for women's athletics was

$5,470,000. So -- that's about 20 scholarships less than the allowed total.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:University of Richmond --

Women's sports: Basketball, Track/X-Country, Field Hockey, Golf, Lacrosse, Soccer, Swimming, Tennis

That's, in order, 13, 18, 12, 6, 12, 14, 14 and 8 That's 97 total allowed for the women's sports played at the school. At $70k per that would be $6,890,000. But, the stated expense for women's athletics was

How about you stop trying to find outliners and stick with the regular public schools. You’re trying to make a point by cherry-picking.

[Anonymous]

I don’t care how many scholarships they hand out as long as one is to my kid.

Here’s a hint - most scholarship kids are a combination of academics and athletics. That’s how most full rides come about

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:University of Richmond --

Women's sports: Basketball, Track/X-Country, Field Hockey, Golf, Lacrosse, Soccer, Swimming, Tennis

That's, in order, 13, 18, 12, 6, 12, 14, 14 and 8 That's 97 total allowed for the women's sports played at the school. At $70k per that would be $6,890,000. But, the stated expense for women's athletics was

How about you stop trying to find outliners and stick with the regular public schools. You’re trying to make a point by cherry-picking.

The point is that once you are out of the Power5 -- your outliers are the schools that offer the full number of soccer scholarships for their women's teams. But -- you do get a ton of fake participation numbers. Golly there are 120 women on crew, and 110 women running cross country and track.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:University of Richmond --

Women's sports: Basketball, Track/X-Country, Field Hockey, Golf, Lacrosse, Soccer, Swimming, Tennis

That's, in order, 13, 18, 12, 6, 12, 14, 14 and 8 That's 97 total allowed for the women's sports played at the school. At $70k per that would be $6,890,000. But, the stated expense for women's athletics was

How about you stop trying to find outliners and stick with the regular public schools. You’re trying to make a point by cherry-picking.

The point is that once you are out of the Power5 -- your outliers are the schools that offer the full number of soccer scholarships for their women's teams. But -- you do get a ton of fake participation numbers. Golly there are 120 women on crew, and 110 women running cross country and track.

Show me the stats that prove what’s you’re saying because I haven’t seen what your saying.

Not assumptions - stats