Why D1 if the school is only so so?

[Anonymous]

Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

Now I'm neither the PP, nor Einstein but I have some familiarity with the rules of logic. Sadly I am forced to conclude, by the sheer number of logical fallacies you have managed to pack into such a short statement, that you do not.

[Anonymous]

Okay - quizzed my kid’s old coach. 19 years head coach for a D1 college and current DD for a big Florida club.

About 80% of the Power5 schools will offer the full 14 for women’s teams, but a good many - those in particular pumping fake numbers for women’s crew will trim that back to 10 or 12.

Once you move out of the Power5 - the percentages go way up of teams that will have 1-5 women’s scholarships for a team. His view was that about a third of the nonPower5 teams were in the 1-5 range. Another third would be 6-10.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

Now I'm neither the PP, nor Einstein but I have some familiarity with the rules of logic. Sadly I am forced to conclude, by the sheer number of logical fallacies you have managed to pack into such a short statement, that you do not.

Carry on all you want about it. There is nothing wrong with community college, but after many years in the so-called top league with multiple players, I have yet to meet a single family interested in sending their player off to attend for 2 years and then transfer.

But you do you. Just because zero other families don't see the brilliance of the plan does not mean it is not for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

Now I'm neither the PP, nor Einstein but I have some familiarity with the rules of logic. Sadly I am forced to conclude, by the sheer number of logical fallacies you have managed to pack into such a short statement, that you do not.

Carry on all you want about it. There is nothing wrong with community college, but after many years in the so-called top league with multiple players, I have yet to meet a single family interested in sending their player off to attend for 2 years and then transfer.

But you do you. Just because zero other families don't see the brilliance of the plan does not mean it is not for you.

I'm not carrying on about it all, and I'm not the PP. As it happens I have not sent my kids to a community college either, and I don't think it's a great plan myself.

I was merely pointing out that what you appeared to believe was a convincing, perhaps even crushing, argument was, in fact, neither.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

Now I'm neither the PP, nor Einstein but I have some familiarity with the rules of logic. Sadly I am forced to conclude, by the sheer number of logical fallacies you have managed to pack into such a short statement, that you do not.

Carry on all you want about it. There is nothing wrong with community college, but after many years in the so-called top league with multiple players, I have yet to meet a single family interested in sending their player off to attend for 2 years and then transfer.

But you do you. Just because zero other families don't see the brilliance of the plan does not mean it is not for you.

I'm not carrying on about it all, and I'm not the PP. As it happens I have not sent my kids to a community college either, and I don't think it's a great plan myself.

I was merely pointing out that what you appeared to believe was a convincing, perhaps even crushing, argument was, in fact, neither.

Suit yourself. I don't need to do a scientific study to ascertain that the behavior of the families at my ecnl club is not going to be radically different from that of lots of the others. I seriously think you would be hard pressed to find a single family at any of them wanting this outcome for their player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

Now I'm neither the PP, nor Einstein but I have some familiarity with the rules of logic. Sadly I am forced to conclude, by the sheer number of logical fallacies you have managed to pack into such a short statement, that you do not.

Carry on all you want about it. There is nothing wrong with community college, but after many years in the so-called top league with multiple players, I have yet to meet a single family interested in sending their player off to attend for 2 years and then transfer.

But you do you. Just because zero other families don't see the brilliance of the plan does not mean it is not for you.

I'm not carrying on about it all, and I'm not the PP. As it happens I have not sent my kids to a community college either, and I don't think it's a great plan myself.

I was merely pointing out that what you appeared to believe was a convincing, perhaps even crushing, argument was, in fact, neither.

Suit yourself. I don't need to do a scientific study to ascertain that the behavior of the families at my ecnl club is not going to be radically different from that of lots of the others. I seriously think you would be hard pressed to find a single family at any of them wanting this outcome for their player.

I do not disagree with that statement. Merely your apparent view that that serves somehow to validate the correctness of this position.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok Einstein. The world is full of idiots that did not not have enough sense not to go to nova community college. I am surrounded at my kids club by well off successful parents and every single one was too stupid to not know that nova community college would have provided them a superior education to what they got.

Now I'm neither the PP, nor Einstein but I have some familiarity with the rules of logic. Sadly I am forced to conclude, by the sheer number of logical fallacies you have managed to pack into such a short statement, that you do not.

Carry on all you want about it. There is nothing wrong with community college, but after many years in the so-called top league with multiple players, I have yet to meet a single family interested in sending their player off to attend for 2 years and then transfer.

But you do you. Just because zero other families don't see the brilliance of the plan does not mean it is not for you.

I'm not carrying on about it all, and I'm not the PP. As it happens I have not sent my kids to a community college either, and I don't think it's a great plan myself.

I was merely pointing out that what you appeared to believe was a convincing, perhaps even crushing, argument was, in fact, neither.

Suit yourself. I don't need to do a scientific study to ascertain that the behavior of the families at my ecnl club is not going to be radically different from that of lots of the others. I seriously think you would be hard pressed to find a single family at any of them wanting this outcome for their player.

I do not disagree with that statement. Merely your apparent view that that serves somehow to validate the correctness of this position.

There is no right or wrong answer or correct position. Every student/ player is unique but very few if any want to take this path.

[Anonymous]

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There is no right or wrong answer or correct position.

I agree that the correct position might vary for each person, or perhaps it doesn't. There are wrong answers though. For example the answer that a position is right because everyone believes it is right, is a wrong answer.

Every student/ player is unique but very few if any want to take this path.

Indeed. And the many and the few may all be right, or all wrong, or perhaps some are right and some are wrong on both sides of the question. However the rightness or wrongness of any of them may not be determined by the choices of the others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no right or wrong answer or correct position.

I agree that the correct position might vary for each person, or perhaps it doesn't. There are wrong answers though. For example the answer that a position is right because everyone believes it is right, is a wrong answer.

Every student/ player is unique but very few if any want to take this path.

Indeed. And the many and the few may all be right, or all wrong, or perhaps some are right and some are wrong on both sides of the question. However the rightness or wrongness of any of them may not be determined by the choices of the others.

The best outcome varies for each player. You need to familiarize with youth soccer and college recruiting and human beings in general before you spout a bunch of nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no right or wrong answer or correct position.

I agree that the correct position might vary for each person, or perhaps it doesn't. There are wrong answers though. For example the answer that a position is right because everyone believes it is right, is a wrong answer.

Every student/ player is unique but very few if any want to take this path.

Indeed. And the many and the few may all be right, or all wrong, or perhaps some are right and some are wrong on both sides of the question. However the rightness or wrongness of any of them may not be determined by the choices of the others.

The best outcome varies for each player. You need to familiarize with youth soccer and college recruiting and human beings in general before you spout a bunch of nonsense.

I am not talking nonsense at all. I am making a point about logic, more than about soccer. One which you appear unable to recognize, despite your eagerness to call another poster an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Look. Start a thread about logic if you want to talk about logic. This is the soccer section....for discussing soccer issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay - quizzed my kid’s old coach. 19 years head coach for a D1 college and current DD for a big Florida club.

About 80% of the Power5 schools will offer the full 14 for women’s teams, but a good many - those in particular pumping fake numbers for women’s crew will trim that back to 10 or 12.

Once you move out of the Power5 - the percentages go way up of teams that will have 1-5 women’s scholarships for a team. His view was that about a third of the nonPower5 teams were in the 1-5 range. Another third would be 6-10.

These numbers are not remotely true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Girls: 14 full
Typical roster size: 30

I’ll make up some numbers -

About 4 full ride players (10’remaining)

The remaining 10 scholarships are broken down into 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, etc. among the remaining 25 players

So, find the school where your kid will be the top recruit if you want the money.

this was already said previously

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a college thread not a pro thread

Your kid is not playing pro.

I never understand why people love to say that on here. I’m quite certain that the parents of Kevin Paredes, Drew Skundrich, and every single other male pro-soccer player with a supportive family wondered at some point prior to the tween years whether their talented kid had what it took to make it. They then invested the time and/or money needed to help their kid get there, just like some of the PPs on here are starting to do. I think everyone is aware that the odds are slim, but you can’t win if you don’t play. Many of the kids who have pro dreams and a lot of talent at 10 will end up playing in college, many won’t even get to that level ultimately, and a few will, indeed, go pro instead of attending, or after graduating from, college.

Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long for someone to say that. It’s just jealousy. Ppl arnd here spend lots of time and money to make their kids better and more competitive, and put pressure on them, to no avail. They assume everyone else is too.

This entire thread is hilarious. Do you have any idea how many kids in the DMV area will not even commit to a D1 program? Especially this year? The amount will be staggering. All D1 programs from which you receive any type of money should be lauded. Those girls have worked their tails off for years to play at a higher level and deserve to be congratulated. Every year, those rankings shift as new talent enters and departs. The question posed in this thread is absurd. Going D1 is a huge accomplishment that will make these girls' collegiate years unforgettable. Going PRO is not just for those in high D1 programs, just as being a PRO player does not imply that you will be a good coach one day. Many professional players attended small-town colleges. Do you know why we all enroll our children in sports? It's about much more than just being the best or playing at the highest levels. Most people want it to help shape their child’s character and give them a sense of strong purpose and incredible self-esteem. So, to answer your perplexing question. Yes, it is well worth it because all D1 programs, regardless of ranking, are strong.

Most of the McLean, VDA, FCV, Loudoun girls will commit to D1 unless they go IVY. Go back into the forum and find the discussion about this. It's about 97% of the kids commit to D1 or Ivy