JK Rowling hate law posts not criminal, police say

Anonymous
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68712471.amp

Social media comments made by JK Rowling challenging Scotland's new hate crime law are not being treated as criminal, Police Scotland has said.


Coming from the person who decided Dumbledore was gay and Hermione black, it's ironic.

I was super curious how this would play out. Anyone surprised by the result?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68712471.amp

Social media comments made by JK Rowling challenging Scotland's new hate crime law are not being treated as criminal, Police Scotland has said.


Coming from the person who decided Dumbledore was gay and Hermione black, it's ironic.

I was super curious how this would play out. Anyone surprised by the result?

No. As the article states the UK has a long history of freedom of speech. Additionally the article stated “The legislation does not prevent people expressing controversial, challenging or offensive views, nor does it seek to stifle criticism or rigorous debate in any way." JK likely knows where the line is, and if she crosses it, she has the money to challenge any criminal charge.
Anonymous
I am glad it played out as it did -- I don't think Rowling's positions on this matter are grounded in hate, and while I don't always agree with her or what she says, it would be a real strike against free speech to prosecute her for her opinions.

She disagrees with some of the prevailing attitudes on gender and the law. A decent number of people agree with her. She doesn't invoke violence against trans people, though she does engage in behavior like deadnaming or questioning the gender someone says they are. I personally wouldn't engaging in those activities but the idea that they would be considered illegal is actually kind of scary to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am glad it played out as it did -- I don't think Rowling's positions on this matter are grounded in hate, and while I don't always agree with her or what she says, it would be a real strike against free speech to prosecute her for her opinions.

She disagrees with some of the prevailing attitudes on gender and the law. A decent number of people agree with her. She doesn't invoke violence against trans people, though she does engage in behavior like deadnaming or questioning the gender someone says they are. I personally wouldn't engaging in those activities but the idea that they would be considered illegal is actually kind of scary to me.


So some hate speech is ok?
Anonymous
Hate speech is hate speech.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hate speech is hate speech.


But not criminal in this case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68712471.amp

Social media comments made by JK Rowling challenging Scotland's new hate crime law are not being treated as criminal, Police Scotland has said.


Coming from the person who decided Dumbledore was gay and Hermione black, it's ironic.

I was super curious how this would play out. Anyone surprised by the result?


Given that she didn’t say anything hateful, I’m glad for the result.
Anonymous
She’s simply speaking out against men who decided they’re women to get into women’s spaces. Women’s prisons, women’s shelters, keeping sex offenders away from women and girls, and men/boys out of women’s/girls sports. And being able to keep the freedom of speech to do so.

I applaud her for not towing the (celebrity) company line, pretending it’s okay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am glad it played out as it did -- I don't think Rowling's positions on this matter are grounded in hate, and while I don't always agree with her or what she says, it would be a real strike against free speech to prosecute her for her opinions.

She disagrees with some of the prevailing attitudes on gender and the law. A decent number of people agree with her. She doesn't invoke violence against trans people, though she does engage in behavior like deadnaming or questioning the gender someone says they are. I personally wouldn't engaging in those activities but the idea that they would be considered illegal is actually kind of scary to me.


So some hate speech is ok?


The line is fuzzy, PP.

I wouldn't purposefully deadname someone, because I believe we all have the right to choose own names, but I generally feel that JK Rowling is a humane individual and she makes good points. She has done many wonderful things in her life, has supported a lot of charitable causes, and like PP, I feel she's demonstrated her worth as a person enough times that I can ignore this difference we have.

Frankly, she isn't killing 32K civilians like Netanyahu or trying to topple democracy like Trump. Give her a break. Not everyone needs to agree with you on absolutely everything.





Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68712471.amp

Social media comments made by JK Rowling challenging Scotland's new hate crime law are not being treated as criminal, Police Scotland has said.


Coming from the person who decided Dumbledore was gay and Hermione black, it's ironic.

I was super curious how this would play out. Anyone surprised by the result?


NP. What does the bolded mean? Not sure what either of those things has to do with JK Rowling’s tweets.
Anonymous
She’s a true heroine. It’s complete insanity to codify that saying that a man is a man constitutes hate speech. Reality matters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hate speech is hate speech.

What part of what she said is “hate speech”?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She’s simply speaking out against men who decided they’re women to get into women’s spaces. Women’s prisons, women’s shelters, keeping sex offenders away from women and girls, and men/boys out of women’s/girls sports. And being able to keep the freedom of speech to do so.

I applaud her for not towing the (celebrity) company line, pretending it’s okay.

This. Men don’t belong in women’s spaces regardless of what the men claim to believe themselves to be.
Anonymous
They couldn’t go after her because the publicity would slaughter them. They’ve gone after other people in the UK for speech issues.

They arrested an autistic teenager for commenting that a police officer looked like her lesbian grandmother.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/a...tiktok-b2391163.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-68712471.amp

Social media comments made by JK Rowling challenging Scotland's new hate crime law are not being treated as criminal, Police Scotland has said.


Coming from the person who decided Dumbledore was gay and Hermione black, it's ironic.

I was super curious how this would play out. Anyone surprised by the result?


NP. What does the bolded mean? Not sure what either of those things has to do with JK Rowling’s tweets.


It's just interesting in terms of her going out of her way to pander and now going out of her way not to ponder
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