Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss Part II

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Pulisic has said similar—the need to go to Europe. He also had many connections that Cameron never had. His dad’s pro friends were able to protect and nurture him along the way and give him opportunities the average unconnected tiny kid would never receive. Pulisic himself has acknowledged there were 100s of kids just as good as him in his youth that never got a chance. The family is incredibly modest and thankful. He’s not at a place to be critical either whereas Cameron is 32 years old and done anyways.

Oh yes, let's marginalize the players who can barely afford travel as it is! Speaking about going to Europe like it's a run-of-the-mill thing, FFS. Pulisic couldn't even play straight away, and he has a Croatian background. We need to fix soccer HERE, not just rely on Europe to train our players and solve our problems. If your kid is good enough and it's financially feasible for them to do so, go for it, but do not paint it as the end-all-be-all.

I think you misread that. Cameron is at the end of his career so can afford to speak the truth. Pulisic has many years of endorsements and USMNT appearances to go. Re-read the article, I think you’ll find you’d agree with everything Cameron stated.

I do agree with Cameron, I was disagreeing with the other poster. I think it's funny that they ragged on Cameron when he has much more experience than Pulisic playing in Europe. Pulisic is not even 20 yet and is still developing his world views.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Pulisic has said similar—the need to go to Europe. He also had many connections that Cameron never had. His dad’s pro friends were able to protect and nurture him along the way and give him opportunities the average unconnected tiny kid would never receive. Pulisic himself has acknowledged there were 100s of kids just as good as him in his youth that never got a chance. The family is incredibly modest and thankful. He’s not at a place to be critical either whereas Cameron is 32 years old and done anyways.

Oh yes, let's marginalize the players who can barely afford travel as it is! Speaking about going to Europe like it's a run-of-the-mill thing, FFS. Pulisic couldn't even play straight away, and he has a Croatian background. We need to fix soccer HERE, not just rely on Europe to train our players and solve our problems. If your kid is good enough and it's financially feasible for them to do so, go for it, but do not paint it as the end-all-be-all.

I think you misread that. Cameron is at the end of his career so can afford to speak the truth. Pulisic has many years of endorsements and USMNT appearances to go. Re-read the article, I think you’ll find you’d agree with everything Cameron stated.

I do agree with Cameron, I was disagreeing with the other poster. I think it's funny that they ragged on Cameron when he has much more experience than Pulisic playing in Europe. Pulisic is not even 20 yet and is still developing his world views.

Messi left Argentina for Barcelona and that didn’t mean Argentina soccer sucks. It means if you want to train/play with/against the best then go to Europe. We should be encouraging our players to go to Europe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Pulisic has said similar—the need to go to Europe. He also had many connections that Cameron never had. His dad’s pro friends were able to protect and nurture him along the way and give him opportunities the average unconnected tiny kid would never receive. Pulisic himself has acknowledged there were 100s of kids just as good as him in his youth that never got a chance. The family is incredibly modest and thankful. He’s not at a place to be critical either whereas Cameron is 32 years old and done anyways.

Oh yes, let's marginalize the players who can barely afford travel as it is! Speaking about going to Europe like it's a run-of-the-mill thing, FFS. Pulisic couldn't even play straight away, and he has a Croatian background. We need to fix soccer HERE, not just rely on Europe to train our players and solve our problems. If your kid is good enough and it's financially feasible for them to do so, go for it, but do not paint it as the end-all-be-all.

I think you misread that. Cameron is at the end of his career so can afford to speak the truth. Pulisic has many years of endorsements and USMNT appearances to go. Re-read the article, I think you’ll find you’d agree with everything Cameron stated.

I do agree with Cameron, I was disagreeing with the other poster. I think it's funny that they ragged on Cameron when he has much more experience than Pulisic playing in Europe. Pulisic is not even 20 yet and is still developing his world views.

Messi left Argentina for Barcelona and that didn’t mean Argentina soccer sucks. It means if you want to train/play with/against the best then go to Europe. We should be encouraging our players to go to Europe.

Of course we should be encouraging our players to go to Europe if the opportunity presents itself. There is no absolute NEED to go to Europe, as the poster above made it come off as.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Pulisic has said similar—the need to go to Europe. He also had many connections that Cameron never had. His dad’s pro friends were able to protect and nurture him along the way and give him opportunities the average unconnected tiny kid would never receive. Pulisic himself has acknowledged there were 100s of kids just as good as him in his youth that never got a chance. The family is incredibly modest and thankful. He’s not at a place to be critical either whereas Cameron is 32 years old and done anyways.

Oh yes, let's marginalize the players who can barely afford travel as it is! Speaking about going to Europe like it's a run-of-the-mill thing, FFS. Pulisic couldn't even play straight away, and he has a Croatian background. We need to fix soccer HERE, not just rely on Europe to train our players and solve our problems. If your kid is good enough and it's financially feasible for them to do so, go for it, but do not paint it as the end-all-be-all.

I think you misread that. Cameron is at the end of his career so can afford to speak the truth. Pulisic has many years of endorsements and USMNT appearances to go. Re-read the article, I think you’ll find you’d agree with everything Cameron stated.

I do agree with Cameron, I was disagreeing with the other poster. I think it's funny that they ragged on Cameron when he has much more experience than Pulisic playing in Europe. Pulisic is not even 20 yet and is still developing his world views.

Messi left Argentina for Barcelona and that didn’t mean Argentina soccer sucks. It means if you want to train/play with/against the best then go to Europe. We should be encouraging our players to go to Europe.

Of course we should be encouraging our players to go to Europe if the opportunity presents itself. There is no absolute NEED to go to Europe, as the poster above made it come off as.

If you are not good enough to benefit from it then of course one does not NEED to go to Europe. We should be developing our players to the point where more and more are capable of taking advantage of playing and training in Europe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nope. Pulisic has said similar—the need to go to Europe. He also had many connections that Cameron never had. His dad’s pro friends were able to protect and nurture him along the way and give him opportunities the average unconnected tiny kid would never receive. Pulisic himself has acknowledged there were 100s of kids just as good as him in his youth that never got a chance. The family is incredibly modest and thankful. He’s not at a place to be critical either whereas Cameron is 32 years old and done anyways.

Oh yes, let's marginalize the players who can barely afford travel as it is! Speaking about going to Europe like it's a run-of-the-mill thing, FFS. Pulisic couldn't even play straight away, and he has a Croatian background. We need to fix soccer HERE, not just rely on Europe to train our players and solve our problems. If your kid is good enough and it's financially feasible for them to do so, go for it, but do not paint it as the end-all-be-all.

I think you misread that. Cameron is at the end of his career so can afford to speak the truth. Pulisic has many years of endorsements and USMNT appearances to go. Re-read the article, I think you’ll find you’d agree with everything Cameron stated.

I do agree with Cameron, I was disagreeing with the other poster. I think it's funny that they ragged on Cameron when he has much more experience than Pulisic playing in Europe. Pulisic is not even 20 yet and is still developing his world views.

Messi left Argentina for Barcelona and that didn’t mean Argentina soccer sucks. It means if you want to train/play with/against the best then go to Europe. We should be encouraging our players to go to Europe.

Of course we should be encouraging our players to go to Europe if the opportunity presents itself. There is no absolute NEED to go to Europe, as the poster above made it come off as.

If you are not good enough to benefit from it then of course one does not NEED to go to Europe. We should be developing our players to the point where more and more are capable of taking advantage of playing and training in Europe.

The Bundesliga seems to be a great fit for exceptional American talent.

[Anonymous]

^^PP, Before you post another asinine comment again, read the article cited earlier. Nobody is making the claim that playing in Europe is for everyone. It is only for those with pro potential and talent. Otherwise just be quiet while the adults are talking.

[Anonymous]

Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.

Correct on age group. See link for full list of New NCSL teams for Spring 2018. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.

Correct on age group. See link for full list of New NCSL teams for Spring 2018. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

So for teams below their 13U-19U ECNL teams, they left CCL, went to pre-ECNL training only mode, and are now putting those <13U teams back into NCSL? I can't track the landscape. Training-only mode was an interesting experiment that was nice to see tried.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.

Correct on age group. See link for full list of New NCSL teams for Spring 2018. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

So for teams below their 13U-19U ECNL teams, they left CCL, went to pre-ECNL training only mode, and are now putting those <13U teams back into NCSL? I can't track the landscape. Training-only mode was an interesting experiment that was nice to see tried.

interesting to see so many new teams joining in the Spring. Probably many coming from Rec or ODSL. Too bad ODSL is having less and less teams each year. It's actually well organized.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.

Correct on age group. See link for full list of New NCSL teams for Spring 2018. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

So for teams below their 13U-19U ECNL teams, they left CCL, went to pre-ECNL training only mode, and are now putting those <13U teams back into NCSL? I can't track the landscape. Training-only mode was an interesting experiment that was nice to see tried.

interesting to see so many new teams joining in the Spring. Probably many coming from Rec or ODSL. Too bad ODSL is having less and less teams each year. It's actually well organized.

Coming from CCL2 as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups

What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?

I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.

Correct on age group. See link for full list of New NCSL teams for Spring 2018. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

So for teams below their 13U-19U ECNL teams, they left CCL, went to pre-ECNL training only mode, and are now putting those <13U teams back into NCSL? I can't track the landscape. Training-only mode was an interesting experiment that was nice to see tried.

I actually am skeptical. I think those teams listed as BRYC Academy Elite are NOT the same as the pre-ECNL team(s). The 'elite' teams at BRYC are historically ODSL teams. I bet those teams are simply leaving ODSL.

[Anonymous]

ODSL is tied to Rec at BRYC.
The Academy teams are the preECNL. I think it was just about getting a regular schedule in place. In the Fall some ages were able to set up games every weekend and some weren't.