Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Ours would go from Einstein to BCC, which I see as positive on one hand but negative in other ways. Getting to Bethesda from our house in traffic takes significantly longer than getting to Einstein, so managing afterschool activities, school events, and even meeting up with their friends would be a real headache. I also personally like being at a school where there we don't have to worry about "keeping up with the Joneses." It's a traadeoff but given the option we'd rather our kids attend a school in our neighborhood. If we had wanted our kids to attend Bethesda schools, we would have bought or rented an apartment in Bethesda rather than a house in SIlver Spring.

Are you zoned for Woodlin.ES? There is a 5 minute difference right now between driving to Einstein from Woodside Park vs driving to BCC. Einstein is overcrowded. The Woodlin ES area is an obvious choice to relieve overcrowding at Einstein because you are not that close to Einstein and BCC is not that much further.

Option 3 does not have Woodlin in BCC? They are probably at Glen Haven or Flora Singer.

Oh yeah that's longer, my bad

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, I didn't realize just how massive the variation in EML/FARMS is between high schools right now, and these options barely touch it (even option 3, which looks like it does the most to balance those factors, still has really large disparities)...

Exactly, and with the program analysis likely to move high performing programs to Woodward and perhaps Crown, the FARMS disparity between the high schools will increase. It's the 1970s all over again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

Do you work for MCPS or Flo Analytics?

[Anonymous]

How are schools allocated money within the county? Is it just a per-student fixed amount, with adjustments for higher needs kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I didn't realize just how massive the variation in EML/FARMS is between high schools right now, and these options barely touch it (even option 3, which looks like it does the most to balance those factors, still has really large disparities)...

Exactly, and with the program analysis likely to move high performing programs to Woodward and perhaps Crown, the FARMS disparity between the high schools will increase. It's the 1970s all over again.

Where are you getting that idea?

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Anonymous wrote:Man, I didn't realize just how massive the variation in EML/FARMS is between high schools right now, and these options barely touch it (even option 3, which looks like it does the most to balance those factors, still has really large disparities)...

Exactly, and with the program analysis likely to move high performing programs to Woodward and perhaps Crown, the FARMS disparity between the high schools will increase. It's the 1970s all over again.

EML numbers can be really complicated to compare in high school since it’s an entrance/exit program that actually begins in K.

Seems like FARMS is a more reliable data point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

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Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

I hope they will be refined the way a caterpillar is refined into a butterfly.

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[Anonymous]

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What changes does option 3 bring for you and the people you know?

I have yet to see a single person actually affected meaningfully by option 3 in favor of option 3. It’s all people who think they know what’s best for other people’s kids.

I’m affected positively by option 3. My kids (very very young not even in school yet) would go from Wheaton to WJ. And it’s not really that far from us either. But I know that’s selfish - it really does seem like a ridiculous option that negatively impacts so many others so I realize it will likely not happen like it is drawn up

Yeah. Our kids are in the part of SCES moved from Northwood to Blair so I would also like that.

Every option would put Einstein under capacity which benefits us. Option 3 seems to be the only option that would reduce the FARMS rate at Einstein, but not by much. Option 2 would significantly increase the FARMS rate at Einstein. I don't like Options 1 or 4 because they leave Wheaton so high over capacity and as a taxpayer that strikes me as a very inefficient use of resources. No idea if they would keep the DCC but if they did it would be nice if Wheaton was a option in the choice process that isn't horribly overcrowded or unmanageable as a campus given its size and the proposal to also have kids walk to Edison for class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

Correct

Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

Do you work for MCPS or Flo Analytics?

If they do they are knowingly spreading misinformation. The word "equally" is nowhere to be found in Policy FAA. It actually states:
"When developing recommendations for the Board, the superintendent of schools will provide a rationale for each recommendation that demonstrates the extent to which any recommendation advances the factors below. While each of the factors will be considered, it may not be feasible to reconcile each and every recommendation with each and every factor."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

Correct

Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

Do you work for MCPS or Flo Analytics?

If they do they are knowingly spreading misinformation. The word "equally" is nowhere to be found in Policy FAA. It actually states:
"When developing recommendations for the Board, the superintendent of schools will provide a rationale for each recommendation that demonstrates the extent to which any recommendation advances the factors below. While each of the factors will be considered, it may not be feasible to reconcile each and every recommendation with each and every factor."

That's DCUM motto: Spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

Correct

Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

The FAA policy say they will consider all 4 factors, not weight them equally. But I agree - the boundary options will change come fall, not just because they will weight factors differently from now, but also because the programs analysis will be out this month and will have an impact on the boundary study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

Correct

Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

The FAA policy say they will consider all 4 factors, not weight them equally. But I agree - the boundary options will change come fall, not just because they will weight factors differently from now, but also because the programs analysis will be out this month and will have an impact on the boundary study.

Pardon my total ignorance, but what is the program analysis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

Correct

Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

The FAA policy say they will consider all 4 factors, not weight them equally. But I agree - the boundary options will change come fall, not just because they will weight factors differently from now, but also because the programs analysis will be out this month and will have an impact on the boundary study.

Pardon my total ignorance, but what is the program analysis?

The program analysis is being done by MCPS itself to determine what programs will be offered regionally and county wide. More info here: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/academic-programs-analysis/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JFC, none of the 4 are real options - they are showing you an option that focus on each one of the 4 priorities in FAA. The options the Superintendent will chose from, to recommend to try BOE, haven't been shared yet.

What MCPS staff allowed the consultants to release these 4 options, when none of them are actual options anyone will be choosing from, and why MCPS staff and consultants are holding all these meetings, which is a huge waste of time and resources, is beyond me

So wait, non of these options are even reak? WTF is the point? When will the real options be presented? This is super dumb.

Correct

Well according to the MCPS website they are options that will be “refined.” I wouldn’t bank on random internet poster’s statements that they aren’t at least somewhat indicative of what the eventual option will be.

Or, some of you could try reading. The FAA policy says that all 4 options are equally weighted, so no, none of the 4 options released are real, because they each weigh only one of the 4 FAA priorities

The FAA policy say they will consider all 4 factors, not weight them equally. But I agree - the boundary options will change come fall, not just because they will weight factors differently from now, but also because the programs analysis will be out this month and will have an impact on the boundary study.

Pardon my total ignorance, but what is the program analysis?

The program analysis is being done by MCPS itself to determine what programs will be offered regionally and county wide. More info here: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/academic-programs-analysis/

Thank you!